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Would you sign the petition for Ryan or do you think the denial of his Eagle Scout was to be expected?

Posted by on Oct. 8, 2012 at 4:11 PM
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Boy Scouts Refuse to Give Teen an Eagle Scout Badge Because He's Gay

Posted by Jeanne Sager on October 8, 2012 

Boy ScoutsNeed another sign that the Boy Scouts of America have a serious problem with gays? His name is Ryan Andresen, and he's worked his way all the way up to Eagle Scout over the years, putting in the same kind of effort as every other boy trying to get the Scouts' top rank. Only now the BSA has decided the teenager doesn't actually deserve the coveted badge ... because he's gay.

The whole fiasco has taken the Internet by storm, and Andresen is getting support by the thousands in the form of the angry masses singing a petition put together by his mom, demanding the BSA give in and give him his darn badge. Good for Mom for standing by her son, but I think it's high time we acknowledge the rather large and gray elephant in the room, don't you?

What the heck was a gay kid doing in the Boy Scouts of America in the first place?

It's a group known the world over for being homophobic, and they're not closeted about it. Just this past summer we were treated to an official announcement from the powers-that-be at the private organization that they will continue to discriminate against LGBT kids and adults who would like to volunteer. It's sad, but as the courts have reminded us again and again, as a privately-funded organization with religious roots, the Boy Scouts can get away with it.

Which means they can tell Ryan Andresen where to stick it, and no amount of petitions from his mom can change their minds.

So I ask again: why did Karen Andresen continue to push her gay son through the ranks of a homophobic organization? From the sounds of it, she's a supportive mom who understands that her son was born this way. That's a parenting win right there.

But encouraging him to stay with Scouts means she was either telling her son, "Oh honey, don't worry, the rules don't apply to you," or she was setting him up to be screwed by a system that was specifically designed to tell him there's something wrong with him. It probably wasn't intentional on Karen's part, but sadly, either option smacks of poor parenting.

Kids don't need to be molded to meet the requirements of some narrow-minded group like the Boy Scouts. They need true support. And they need to know that there are some places where they can't or shouldn't go, places where you can't suddenly have the rules changed to fit you.

What a kid like Ryan needs is to be guided toward an organization where he can do something positive for the world regardless of his sexual orientation. Kids need to find a place where their efforts are valued not undermined because those are the types of organizations that turn out good citizens. 

The petition to get Ryan his Eagle Scout is well-meant, but it doesn't address the real problem here. We don't need an organization to change its rules for a kid; we need families to value their kids over an organization.

Would you sign the petition for Ryan or do you think the denial of his Eagle Scout was to be expected?

by on Oct. 8, 2012 at 4:11 PM
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Threes.Company
by on Oct. 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM

I don't know... I mean, they are pretty clear in their rules & expectations.  As a private group, they're allowed to do that, even if we don't agree.  It sounds pretty bad, but if these are their rules, why did he go through the process to become an ES in the first place?  I don't know the whole story here.

mysticalmalissa
by Gold Member on Oct. 9, 2012 at 7:06 AM

Sadly, it was to be expected.

I will not type any more of my feeling on the subject because it would most likly get me banned from CM for life. =)


LoveMyBoyK
by on Oct. 9, 2012 at 7:12 AM
This. It sucks and is why my son will have nothing to do with them but it is not like they have been hiding their position on homosexuality.


Quoting Threes.Company:

I don't know... I mean, they are pretty clear in their rules & expectations.  As a private group, they're allowed to do that, even if we don't agree.  It sounds pretty bad, but if these are their rules, why did he go through the process to become an ES in the first place?  I don't know the whole story here.


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LoveMyBoyK
by on Oct. 9, 2012 at 7:19 AM
Hmmm, additionally, did he hide his sexual orientation from the BSA or did he just, himself, realize he is gay? If he knew and did not say anything, that is dishonest (yes, I understand WHY he might feel the need to hide it but it is still dishonest) and dishonesty, as I understand it, is a big no-no for qualifying to be an ES. Really we need more info than the article above provides.
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MamaBear2cubs
by Bronze Member on Oct. 9, 2012 at 7:27 AM

I am not surprised but yes I would sign the petition

natesmom1228
by on Oct. 9, 2012 at 8:17 AM

Unfortunally this is not something new for the Boy Scouts. His father was an admin for them so he knew their policies and what they stand for. It's not important whether I agree or disagree with the decision, the fact remains they all knew the policies and was basically hoping it wouldn't apply to them since the boy was a scout since he was 6.

SabrinaLC
by on Oct. 9, 2012 at 9:25 AM

They shouldn't be surprised.

It's so sad...

4kidz916
by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 10:55 AM

I would sign the petition.  I think it's wrong to deny him. 

KaylaMillar
by on Oct. 10, 2012 at 11:49 AM


Quoting 4kidz916:

I would sign the petition.  I think it's wrong to deny him. 

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