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This just sucks!

Posted by on Mar. 2, 2011 at 11:12 AM
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 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41868004/ns/politics-more_politics/?gt1=43001

I just don't understand why a "church" would do this.. These ppl are animals and thoughtless. I hardly ever say I hate anything, but I HATE these ppl.

The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that the First Amendment protects fundamentalist church members who mount attention-getting, anti-gay protests outside military funerals. The bad news for Newt Gingrich: It appears that his team isn’t on the same page about his presidential announcement. The good news: Joe Biden proved that you can begin your campaign with rocky start and still be the VP pick.

The court voted 8-1 in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan. The decision upheld an appeals court ruling that threw out a $5 million judgment to the father of a dead Marine who sued church members after they picketed his son's funeral.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the opinion for the court.

Justice Samuel Alito dissented.

It was a huge victory for a group whose antics have outraged many, including veterans groups, according to NBC News' justice correspondent Pete Williams.

While the protests were painful, the majority wrote that the Constitution protects even hurtful speech on public issues.

"What Westboro said, in the whole context of how and where it chose to say it, is entitled to 'special protection' under the First Amendment," Roberts wrote, "and that protection cannot be overcome by a jury finding that the picketing was outrageous." 

"Speech is powerful. It can stir people to action, move them to tears of both joy and sorrow, and — as it did here — inflict great pain," Roberts added.

'Thank God for dead soldiers'
Matthew Snyder died in Iraq in 2006 and his body was returned to the United States for burial. Members of the Westboro Baptist Church, who have picketed military funerals for several years, decided to protest outside the Westminster, Md., church where Snyder's funeral was to be held.

The Rev. Fred Phelps and other family members who make up most of the Westboro Baptist Church have picketed many military funerals in their quest to draw attention to their incendiary view that U.S. deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq are God's punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality. The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that the First Amendment protects fundamentalist church members who mount attention-getting, anti-gay protests outside military funerals..

They showed up with their usual signs, including "Thank God for dead soldiers," "You're Going to Hell," "God Hates the USA/Thank God for 9/11," and one that combined the U.S. Marine Corps motto, Semper Fi, with a slur against gay men.

The church members drew counter-demonstrators, as well as media coverage and a heavy police presence to maintain order. The result was a spectacle that led to altering the route of the funeral procession.

Several weeks later, Albert Snyder was surfing the Internet for tributes to his son from other soldiers and strangers when he came upon a poem on the church's website that attacked Matthew's parents for the way they brought up their son.

Soon after, Albert Snyder filed a lawsuit accusing the Phelpses of intentionally inflicting emotional distress. He won $11 million at trial, later reduced by a judge to $5 million.

The federal appeals court in Richmond, Va., threw out the verdict and said the Constitution shielded the church members from liability.

Forty-eight states, 42 U.S. senators and veterans groups sided with Snyder, asking the court to shield funerals from the Phelps family's "psychological terrorism."

While distancing themselves from the church's message, media organizations, including The Associated Press, urged the court to side with the Phelps family because of concerns that a victory for Snyder could erode speech rights.

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karma729
by Karina-D.R. on Mar. 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM

wow that is insane...

ana326
by Ana-Mexicana on Mar. 2, 2011 at 11:22 AM
Ugghhh these people aren't "people of god"
One of these days I wouldnt be surprised to hear a soldier snapps and goes crazy on these people.
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krise
by Christine-Arizona on Mar. 2, 2011 at 11:31 AM

 

Quoting ana326:

Ugghhh these people aren't "people of god"
One of these days I wouldnt be surprised to hear a soldier snapps and goes crazy on these people.

 me too, but I think they are hoping for that.. Just anothing thing they can scream and protest about.. assholes.

shorty_girl330
by Jessica V- Mexico on Mar. 2, 2011 at 12:00 PM
these people need to get lives, leave soilders and gay people alone, if you want to live your life following god then kuddos to you but if others dont thats their own choice so leave them alone
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mstrendygirl
by Irene-Mexicana on Mar. 2, 2011 at 12:03 PM

thats is just crazy

elle31106
by on Mar. 2, 2011 at 12:32 PM

 I cannot stand that hate groups and this is exactly what the Westboro Baptist chuch is, a hate group, can spew their twisted and hateful rhetoric then hide behind the 1st Amendment. Is it legal to say what they say, yes. Is it protected speech, yes. But is it morally and ethically right, of course not and they know it. That is why they do it. 

 They will also sue the pants off of anyone who touches them or tries to interfer in a physical way with their protests. They are nothing but bottom feeding poor excuse for human beings.

kgmmw
by Kimberly-US/Mex on Mar. 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM

 Thats awful

marlene992
by Marlene-Cubantina on Mar. 2, 2011 at 1:37 PM

who the heck are they to judge! I'm telling you some church ppl can start making their own rules ths is crazy. It says in the Bible People Only God can Judge!! What part of that dont they understand??

sophiesmom07
by on Mar. 2, 2011 at 1:52 PM

I've seen this group on a documentary.  They are disgusting and inhuman... and clearly insane.

angie582
by Angie-México on Mar. 2, 2011 at 1:56 PM

 

Quoting krise:

 

Quoting ana326:

Ugghhh these people aren't "people of god"
One of these days I wouldnt be surprised to hear a soldier snapps and goes crazy on these people.

 me too, but I think they are hoping for that.. Just anothing thing they can scream and protest about.. assholes.

 yup I agree w/ krise I don't doubt their hoping for it to actually happen :/

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