This is a pro-creationism site. It would be interesting to build up a list of discussion on its points.
For example, the page:
quotes a scientists saying:
Quote:there are no known violations of the second law of thermodynamics. Ordinarily the second law is stated for isolated systems, but the second law applies equally well to open systems. ...there is somehow associated with the field of far-from-equilibrium phenomena the notion that the second law of thermodynamics fails for such systems. It is important to make sure that this error does not perpetuate itself
It is important to understand the distinction in physics between a particular formulation of a law (which may be applicable only to some circumstances) and the underlying law itself.
" The entropy of a system tends to increase rather than decrease. " is a formulation of the second law of thermodynamics that only applies to closed systems.
There are other formulations, such as "No process is possible whose sole result is the transfer of heat from
a body of lower temperature to a body of higher temperature. " but, again, there are all just approximations to the underlying mathmatics:
So the apparent syllogism the page plays upon:
(A) The second law applies to all systems, not just closed ones(B) The second law says "entropy increases"
(C) Entropy ought to increase in all systems, even open ones, and if it doesn't that indicates God is involved
misses the point that while the second law always applies, it is only one formulation of the second law that says "entropy increases" and that formulation doesn't always apply.
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