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Very worried. Is this autism/pddnos or something else? *Update*

Posted by on Feb. 25, 2014 at 3:41 PM
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My 3 year old is being evaluated by a preschool Thursday for special education services, and I am terrified they will say he is autistic.

He is 3 and has only a few words. Stop, no, go and mama. The rest is intelligible babble which he does 99% of the time. Whether he is playing with us or by himself he is constantly babbling and making noises.

He understands a lot of what you tell him and follows instructions but won't answer questions like "are you hungry"? By shaking his head. I think this is my fault for not asking enough questions though. But if he doesn't want to do something or doesn't want something you are giving him he shakes his head no.

He waves points, returns smiles, imitates, etc. He has good eye contact and like playing a game where I cover my face and each time I remove the cover my facial expression changes. He knows how to give high fives and fist bumps.

The thing is he is very hyperactive. He cannot sit still. He is constantly on the go. Running, jumping playing very loudly. He babbles to himself very loudly and is always squealing and laughing loudly while doing this. He likes to run a lot. Sometimes he will run back and forth through the living room and wont stop until he is asked to or he is out of breath. This is the only repetitive behavior he has.

He also likes to climb things. The stairs, furniture, etc. Once he used a crutch leaning against a bookshelf as a ladder to get some candy I put on the top. If he wants it he'll find a way to climb if I won't give it to him.  I have read this is a symptom...

I'm worried because I read that hyperactivity combined with speech delays is almost always autism or pddnos...

But he does not seem to have sensory issues. He doesn't have a problem with any textures, sights or sounds or get upset at a change in routine or anything like that.

I don't know how he is socially. He has never been around a child his age and doesn't meet strangers often. Although when he does he doesn't seem to have issues with them. Sometimes he is overly friendly . He has tried to kiss strangers he meets.

I was worried he might have glue ear because he often acts like his right ear is itchy and sometimes he whines and holds it. He is also congested and breaths out of his mouth. His moth is always open so he drools.

But when I took him to his ped she said his ears looked fine. Plus as I said he follows instructions and responds to his name almost 100% of the time so I know he can hear...

When he wants something he leads me and his father to it, brings it to us or points.. is it possible this is a sensory process disorder or adhd. I was diagnosed with adhd when I was around his age.


Could his hyperactivity be caused by his inability to speak?

by on Feb. 25, 2014 at 3:41 PM
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ineedcoffeemom
by Brittaney on Feb. 25, 2014 at 4:00 PM
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His hyperactivity would not be caused by his lack of speech, but his lack of speech could be caused by the hyperactivity. He's going and going so much that he's not paying enough attention to language to develop those skills. My friend has a son who drs believe he probably has adhd but won't diagnose him this early. He turns 3 in May. He only had a few words like your son about 6 months ago, then started getting speech therapy through Early Intervention. His speech has skyrocketed and he can calm down more now. 

It sounds like your son is very similar to my friend's son and he does not have autism. The special ed preschool will really help develop his language skills and he could make big strides. 

SamMom912
by Gold Member on Feb. 25, 2014 at 4:02 PM

Well first off try not to be too worried. You cant really change what is... And your little boy is still your wonderful little boy regardless of whats going on with him. 

Does your preschool have a psychologist? is it a private preschool? Are they evaulating him for early intervention/assistance to classify him as a child with a disability to get him services from your school district to help to "catch" him up to his peers? 

i dont know if they will give you a diagnosis as much as say.. Your son has a delay in speech. That he should recieve (from it sounds like to me) speech therapy, as well as some oral motor therapy to build the muscles in his mouth to assist with the speech as well as some of the drooling (which is impacted by low muscle tone) . They may suggest some sensory integration (if you think he has sensory issues, have you checked out "the out of sync child" by kranowitz.. A great "check list" in the front of the book to "self Dx" your son. 

From his climbing and cognitive skills, (following directions, problem solving how to get the candy) Im doublting he needs support in this area. But the sensory peice of a child typially makes them a bit "comtrolling" since so much of their world seems out of control. 

As you know, ADHD is genetic, so dont be too surprised. PDD is no longer a "diagnosis" it all falls under autism now, but the ncie thing about a PDD diagnosis is that a child can "catch" up... It is just a "pervasive" delay.. Delay doesnt necessarily mean NEVER.. It means the child isnt developing at a consistant rate.. Their verbal skills are not developing at the same rate as their gross motor (as an example) and whenever milestones are not met at a similar rate, it creates a "disorder" and intervention is necessary to get the child on a good "development" schedule... So that by the time they are school age.. They can do as well as possible. 

Make sence? Still scared? HUG

johnns
by Johnna on Feb. 25, 2014 at 5:27 PM
Not really sure why you are going through the preschool. Maybe you could get pediatrician to refer you to a specialist? We saw a developmental ped- I had never really heard of one, never needed one- daughters speech therapist suggested it.
Momof4AEMW
by Gold Member on Feb. 25, 2014 at 7:12 PM

I have a child with autism and spd, one with adhd, one with downs and hearing loss, all with huge developmental and speech delays, and I will not be able to tell you what your child has.  I would get a referral from your child's pediatrician to a developmental pediatrician that is has experience and ability to test for learning disabilities/delays.  Regardless of what the school says, I always put more weight into the medical opinion.  Best of luck.  Hope you get your answers!

darbyakeep45
by Darby on Feb. 26, 2014 at 6:55 AM

Hugs mama...good luck at the eval and let us know how things go!

Hottubgodess
by Jackie on Feb. 26, 2014 at 11:58 AM

((HUGS))  Good luck at the eval.  He may just be over active.  He is a BOY and they are less verbal, and like to experience LIFE.  :)  

How is eye contact?  If good, dont worry.  :)  An OT eval might be good - he could be a sensory seeker, and the babbling is a "stim" - calming to him, giving him input for his ears.  :)  

BTW, not all autistic kids are headbanging babblers.  :)  My son is very intellegent, very well spoken, and he is an Autistic.  :)  

emarin77
by Silver Member on Feb. 26, 2014 at 12:29 PM

He sounds like my son with mild Autism, many similer traits.  Remember though, even if the school does diagnosis with Autism it is not a medical diagnosis.  You would need a specialized doctor or psychologist of Autism make the diagnosis.

Broken2012
by on Feb. 26, 2014 at 12:59 PM

He makes eye contact. He is actually very in your face and clingy most of the time.

Quoting Hottubgodess:

((HUGS))  Good luck at the eval.  He may just be over active.  He is a BOY and they are less verbal, and like to experience LIFE.  :)  

How is eye contact?  If good, dont worry.  :)  An OT eval might be good - he could be a sensory seeker, and the babbling is a "stim" - calming to him, giving him input for his ears.  :)  

BTW, not all autistic kids are headbanging babblers.  :)  My son is very intellegent, very well spoken, and he is an Autistic.  :)  


JTMOM422
by Brenda on Feb. 26, 2014 at 1:05 PM

 Honestly alot of what you wrote sounds like a typical 3 year old to me. I would wait to see how the eval goes before worrying about this. With my son there really was no question of autism. He was dx at 2. All the things your son can do my son couldn't do.

samomama
by Sally on Feb. 26, 2014 at 2:02 PM

You should not be afraid of a diagnosis. It is what it is, you can't change it. As other moms suggested, I would ask for a referal and have him evaluated by a developmental pediatritian. You said he's not been around kids and people much and he's your only child? You may yourself not be aware of a typical 3 year old behavior/skills, and I would like to point out at several remarks you made in your post:

How old is he? Young 3 or old 3? It sounds to me that his speech is quite delayed. At 3 kids hold conversations. I see kids at DS's daycare everyday, oh boy can they talk.

Autistics have inapropriate social behavior. Many do want to hang out, but don't know how, they appear over friendly, but in inappropriate manner. You mentioned he wanted to kiss a stranger? I am not a doctor, but I don't think a typicl 3 year old would just go kiss a stranger. Does he great people or kids ("hi" and "bye") instinctively? Does he try to engage you in his play? Does he do a lot of pretend play? This is what most autistic kids lack.

Also, having a good eye contact is not a guarantee against autism. 

You said he doesn't seem to have sensory issues? But you say that he makes constantly noises. That could be an indicator of sensory issues. 

Anyways, I just wanted to point out those things. He might be fine, just delayed. None of us here can make that call. It is a good thing that he will get evaluated by the school, but I highly recommend that you get him medically evaluated. Ask your pediatritian, make an appointment, the waiting lists can be really long. 

Good luck, and remember that whatever he has, or he doesn't have he is still your little boy and a dx can only help him. Hugs to you and good luck!

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