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I need to knock this kid out

Posted by on Aug. 15, 2014 at 3:40 PM
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Medicinally I mean. Ds is having serious trouble adjusting to his new sleep schedule for 1st grade. Up 3 hours earlier and 3 more hours of class and it's just wrecking him. He's irritable, bags under his eyes, and craaaaaaaaaby.

I have tried to get him to bed earlier but he wakes up after 2 hours and goes to bed hours later. He's getting maybe 7-8 hours. He can't learn with that kind of sleep.

So I need opinions. The only two methods I know of are melatonin and dimatap (neither of which he's ever taken). I guess there's also Benadryl which he has taken but I don't remember if it was effective for very long.

How do I knock him out to give him a good night sleep and get him on a good schedule.
by on Aug. 15, 2014 at 3:40 PM
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by on Aug. 15, 2014 at 6:01 PM

For us it would be a warm bath right before bed, and I have read great things about using melatonin.  Good luck to you! <hug>
by Janine on Aug. 15, 2014 at 8:03 PM
My son takes chlonidine & abilfy he sleeps from 8:30pm-5:30am. I tried everything but he would fight me until midnight if he wanted to. Finally his doctor prescribed chlonidine. Good luck I know what it's like trying to function on no sleep.
by on Aug. 15, 2014 at 8:04 PM
Talk to his specialist & therapists
by Bronze Member on Aug. 15, 2014 at 11:08 PM

Dimetapp = Benadryl and I wouldn't do either. Nor would I do melatonin. It won't encourage a natural sleep pattern or a good night's sleep. Talk to your pediatrician about what you can do without having to resort to meds.

My son and I are both the type who wake after about two or three hours of sleep; neither of us ever sleep eight straight unless we're seriously ill, and it's not common for us to sleep a collected eight hours either. (He'll be 15 on Sunday, I'm 50.) What seems to work here is reading; it puts us back to sleep after 15-30 minutes.

If your son isn't reading yet, just looking at books may help; my mom had me looking at books when I woke up, and that was as early as age 2-3. I just had to stay in bed to do it. No getting out unless I needed the bathroom.

by Bronze Member on Aug. 15, 2014 at 11:19 PM

Would a pre-sleep routine of about 45 minutes before bedtime, help?   Is that something you've tried?

No videos, no tv, no games, 45 min.   Warm bath, quiet story book, a little massage if his muscles are tense, soft lighting.   Some kids like to hear a little soft song, many like to have exactly the same ritual every night.

One little boy told me very sternly when I was putting him to bed, 'Pull hair'.  


Pull hair.

EVIDENTLY, LOL, gently pulling handfuls of hair was his way of relaxing.  I was young and dumbfounded.   Should I actually pull his hair?

I went back and looked at the mom's note (it was not a short note, LOL)

At the bottom it said, 'yes you can pull his hair when putting him to bed'.

LOL.   Each one is individual!

by Member on Aug. 15, 2014 at 11:40 PM
My son is 7 and in the second grade. He averages about 10-11 hours of sleep every night. Occasionally he wakes during the night, but he stays in bed and falls back asleep.

Since he was 5, we have used a small dose of melatonin, but only as needed. Whenever he is having a hard time falling asleep, we give him 0.25 ml of liquid melatonin. For the brand we use, it is the equivalent of about 0.50mg. The doctor told us 3mg was the dosage for his age, but we never used that much.

If a regular bedtime routine does not work for your son, call his doctor and ask about melatonin to help him establish a normal sleep schedule. You're right, 7-8 hours of sleep is too little at his age. He should be getting 10-11 according to online charts. Good luck!
by on Aug. 16, 2014 at 10:33 PM

I would say that you could try melatonin. We did it with my son matt for awhile and it made a huge world of difference for all of us.

by Member on Aug. 16, 2014 at 10:37 PM
My daughter also ha epilepsy and I give her melatonin.... Start out at 1 mg and go uo 1 mg a night until u reach the dose that works for them. She us on several meds and I am so glad her Dr recommended that to us it is natural.
by on Aug. 16, 2014 at 11:24 PM

Sorry.. here they all start school at same time from K thru 8. Hope you can find an answer.

by on Aug. 17, 2014 at 5:48 AM

I will say for my kids each was different one baths before bedtime put them to sleep while the other woke them up. For my autistic son he would go to sleep on time but get up in the middle of the night. Wrapping him up tightly in a rolled hot dog form in the blanket helped. Cutting out the amount of milk and sugar he had before bed time was another way. Both made him hyper. Melatonin we have tried but I have read lately that Melatonin can cause you to be more tired during the day from taking it.  Warm drinks help with sleep and Setting the mood I guess lol my son does intense stims his body has to calm down so we play music that puts anyone to sleep. Classical piano things like that. 

do not disturbhave a good night

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