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 Do any of you mom/teachers consider the news as part of your educational teaching tools?  

Why and or Why not?  

by on Apr. 30, 2012 at 11:55 PM
Replies (11-20):
romacox
by Silver Member on May. 1, 2012 at 3:32 PM

The following was announced briefly on Fox News, so I  looked it up to learn more:

the U.S. State Department on Friday said 13 foreign workers — six of them U.S. citizens — had left Egypt on a private plane. The amount of bail paid for the U.S. citizens was set at about $330,000 each.

The State Department declined to name the people, some of whom worked for the IRI and the National Democratic Institute,  Read more here: http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE82201T20120303

I did not know there was such a thing as the IRI and NDI…did you?

"Although officially nonpartisan, IRI is closely aligned with the Republican Party, just as its sister organization, the National Democratic Institute (NDI), is aligned with the Democratic Party. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has served as IRI chairman since 1993, and Lorne Craner, the former assistant secretary of state for democracy and human rights and labor in the George W. Bush administration, is IRI’s president."

"The IRI is the indirect product of the democratic globalism efforts of the AFL-CIO, U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and the two main U.S. political parties.[16] In 1982, President Ronald Reagan proposed a new organization to promote free-market democracies around the world, the NED. In 1983, Congress approved the creation of NED, which was funded primarily through the U.S. Information Agency (USIA) and secondarily through the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID). Designed as a bipartisan institution, NED channels U.S. government funding through four core grantees: IRI, NDI, the Center for International Private Enterprise, and the Solidarity Center (the AFL-CIO’s international operations institute).[17]"

"The IRI has expanded greatly in recent years. Its 2008 budget was about $78 million, with programs in some 60 countries."  Read full article here:   http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/International_Republican_Institute

"The IRI and NDI are both part of the United Nations: IRI works to advance freedom and democracy worldwide by developing political parties; civic institutions; open elections; good governance; and the rule of law."  Read more about this statement at this link: http://www.unausa.org/page.aspx?pid=411

The website for the International Republican Institute

The website for the International Democratic Institute

There is much to discuss in this news release, but if one also adds Founding Father quotes to the lesson, it makes for a very interesting discussion...teaches children to think analytically (how to think rather than what to think).

Founding Father Quotes:

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself.” John Adams

“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51 percent of the people may take away the right of the other 49 percent.” Thomas Jefferson

“Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.” John Marshal

“Democracy is the road to socialism.” Karl Marx

I can’t resist adding this one: “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-least it come to dominate our lives and interests.” Patrick Henry

As Benjamin Franklin left the Pennsylvania State House after the final meeting of the Constitutional Convention on September 17, 1787, he was approached by the wife of the mayor of Philadelphia. She was curious as to what the new government would be. Franklin replied, “A republic, madam”. 

Notes:

 1. We pledge allegiance to a Republic...not to a democracy.
2.  This very interesting:  If one compares the definition of Websters 1913 and 1828 definitions of Republic you will find the following:

1913 definition of a republic: 2. A state in which the sovereign power resides in the whole body of the people, and is exercised by representatives elected by them; a commonwealth. Cf. Democracy, 2. &hand; In some ancient states called republics the sovereign power was exercised by an hereditary aristocracy or a privileged few, constituting a government now distinctively called an aristocracy. In some there was a division of authority between an aristocracy and the whole body of the people except slaves. No existing republic recognizes an exclusive privilege of any class to govern, or tolerates the institution of slavery. Republic of letters, The collective body of literary or learned men. <-- Democratic republic, a term much used by countries with a Communist system of government. -->

1828 definition of a republic:  1. A commonwealth; a state in which the exercise of the sovereign power is lodged in representatives elected by the people. In modern usage, it differs from a democracy or democratic state, in which the people exercise the powers of sovereignty in person. Yet the democracies of Greece are often called republics. (Greece collapsed in chaos ) http://machaut.uchicago.edu/?resource=Webster%27s&word=republic&use1913=on&use1828=on

3.  Websters 1913 and 1828 definitions of a democracy:

1913 definition of democracy:

1. Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained and directly exercised by the people.

2. Government by popular representation; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but is indirectly exercised through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed; a constitutional representative government; a republic.

1828  definition of democracy: Government by the people; a form of government, in which the supreme power is lodged in the hands of the people collectively, or in which the people exercise the powers of legislation. Such was the government of Athens. http://machaut.uchicago.edu/?resource=Webster%27s&word=democracy&use1913=on&use1828=on

kirbymom
by Sonja on May. 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM

 I love this news piece! 

  I teach this stuff to my kids all the time. we even have them watch the news themselves just so they are not regurgitating what we are saying.   Thanks for Sharing.   :)   

Quoting romacox:

The following was announced briefly on Fox News, so I  looked it up to learn more:

the U.S. State Department on Friday said 13 foreign workers — six of them U.S. citizens — had left Egypt on a private plane. The amount of bail paid for the U.S. citizens was set at about $330,000 each.

The State Department declined to name the people, some of whom worked for the IRI and the National Democratic Institute,  Read more here: http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE82201T20120303

I did not know there was such a thing as the IRI and NDI…did you?

"Although officially nonpartisan, IRI is closely aligned with the Republican Party, just as its sister organization, the National Democratic Institute (NDI), is aligned with the Democratic Party. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has served as IRI chairman since 1993, and Lorne Craner, the former assistant secretary of state for democracy and human rights and labor in the George W. Bush administration, is IRI’s president."

"The IRI is the indirect product of the democratic globalism efforts of the AFL-CIO, U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and the two main U.S. political parties.[16] In 1982, President Ronald Reagan proposed a new organization to promote free-market democracies around the world, the NED. In 1983, Congress approved the creation of NED, which was funded primarily through the U.S. Information Agency (USIA) and secondarily through the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID). Designed as a bipartisan institution, NED channels U.S. government funding through four core grantees: IRI, NDI, the Center for International Private Enterprise, and the Solidarity Center (the AFL-CIO’s international operations institute).[17]"

"The IRI has expanded greatly in recent years. Its 2008 budget was about $78 million, with programs in some 60 countries."  Read full article here:   http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/International_Republican_Institute

"The IRI and NDI are both part of the United Nations: IRI works to advance freedom and democracy worldwide by developing political parties; civic institutions; open elections; good governance; and the rule of law."  Read more about this statement at this link: http://www.unausa.org/page.aspx?pid=411

The website for the International Republican Institute

The website for the International Democratic Institute

There is much to discuss in this news release, but if one also adds Founding Father quotes to the lesson, it makes for a very interesting discussion...teaches children to think analytically (how to think rather than what to think).

Founding Father Quotes:

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself.” John Adams

“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51 percent of the people may take away the right of the other 49 percent.” Thomas Jefferson

“Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.” John Marshal

“Democracy is the road to socialism.” Karl Marx

I can’t resist adding this one: “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-least it come to dominate our lives and interests.” Patrick Henry

As Benjamin Franklin left the Pennsylvania State House after the final meeting of the Constitutional Convention on September 17, 1787, he was approached by the wife of the mayor of Philadelphia. She was curious as to what the new government would be. Franklin replied, “A republic, madam”. 

Notes:

 1. We pledge allegiance to a Republic...not to a democracy.
2.  This very interesting:  If one compares the definition of Websters 1913 and 1828 definitions of Republic you will find the following:

1913 definition of a republic: 2. A state in which the sovereign power resides in the whole body of the people, and is exercised by representatives elected by them; a commonwealth. Cf. Democracy, 2. &hand; In some ancient states called republics the sovereign power was exercised by an hereditary aristocracy or a privileged few, constituting a government now distinctively called an aristocracy. In some there was a division of authority between an aristocracy and the whole body of the people except slaves. No existing republic recognizes an exclusive privilege of any class to govern, or tolerates the institution of slavery. Republic of letters, The collective body of literary or learned men. <-- Democratic republic, a term much used by countries with a Communist system of government. -->

1828 definition of a republic:  1. A commonwealth; a state in which the exercise of the sovereign power is lodged in representatives elected by the people. In modern usage, it differs from a democracy or democratic state, in which the people exercise the powers of sovereignty in person. Yet the democracies of Greece are often called republics. (Greece collapsed in chaos ) http://machaut.uchicago.edu/?resource=Webster%27s&word=republic&use1913=on&use1828=on

3.  Websters 1913 and 1828 definitions of a democracy:

1913 definition of democracy:

1. Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained and directly exercised by the people.

2. Government by popular representation; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but is indirectly exercised through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed; a constitutional representative government; a republic.

1828  definition of democracy: Government by the people; a form of government, in which the supreme power is lodged in the hands of the people collectively, or in which the people exercise the powers of legislation. Such was the government of Athens. http://machaut.uchicago.edu/?resource=Webster%27s&word=democracy&use1913=on&use1828=on

 

kirbymom
by Sonja on May. 1, 2012 at 4:44 PM

 This is what we do also. I have them study all the presidents and what party, if any, they belonged to. 

Quoting romacox:

It depends on the child's age.  But yes...combining Constitution studies with current events helps develop their ability to think analytically.  I also like having them do research on the voting records of candidates. 

 

kirbymom
by Sonja on May. 1, 2012 at 5:00 PM

 Unbiased reporting is rare indeed. that is why we teach all points of view and let them decide whom or what they think, based on all available facts,  is the best view point. 

Quoting KickButtMama:

Yes, it is important to know what is happening around the world, but we also discuss how it is almost impossible to get an unbiased report.

 

kirbymom
by Sonja on May. 1, 2012 at 5:08 PM
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 I just love when they see or hear a piece of news and ask for more information. That can get me more excited than my kids get.  lol  

Quoting No_Difference:

 We haven't yet, but hopefully will be starting next year. We don't buy the paper, and our schedule has been so sporadic lately that we don't even bother watching the TV at all.I am hoping by next year we can get back into our morning routine again and have "watching the news with breakfast" back on our schedule. I think it is good for the kiddos to know what is going on throughout the world, and if they become interested in a topic they heard on the news, it prompts them to look up more information on that subject.

 

kirbymom
by Sonja on May. 1, 2012 at 5:40 PM

 Well he isn't the only person.  I used to do it myself.   I am wondering why we don't just fire everyone in washington and start over myself.  lol    He is in good company I think.  :)  

Quoting SilentDraconia:

My son gets stressed out when he watches the news just like me. The funny thing is he is 8 and he has more sense than most of the politicians. He starts yelling at the tv about how bad they are messing things up and how they should do what they say and stop lying ect. He's never heard anyone do this but it is funny to watch. He says mom why can't we just fire all of them and start over. H

 

kirbymom
by Sonja on May. 1, 2012 at 5:52 PM
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 That is sooo the truth though.  lol   

Quoting usmom3:

 Yes, everything is a learning opportunity even if what you learn is "don't do what the idiot did"!

 

kirbymom
by Sonja on May. 1, 2012 at 6:16 PM

 My kids love discussing what's going on around them. They even love to talk about the past and the future as well.  About everything!  lol  

Quoting oredeb:

 oh yes! these kids have opinions on everything, and i like them knowing whats going on, no head in the sands here to say, we love discussing it

 

kirbymom
by Sonja on May. 1, 2012 at 6:33 PM

 May I ask what it is that you're young 'uns ask about?  My 3 youngest are starting to ask all kinds of questions now. 

Quoting mem82:

Not really at my kids' ages. If there is something big going on, or if they hear something we talk about it. They also hear Rob and I discuss things.

 

kirbymom
by Sonja on May. 1, 2012 at 6:48 PM

 Have you just limited the news or most of everything?  

Quoting Boobah:

My kids are young, but I hate the news. I don't watch it on tv, and I don't look it up online or in papers. I occasionally get info from people on here or Facebook. I can only handle so much negativity in my life, and watching the news is nothing but negativity. I've become a much happier, more peaceful person since we made the decision to limit tv and not watch the news.

 

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