Okay ...so new math has been around several decades now. I remember some older family members showing me old math methods for calculating results of mathematical problems and the methods were much quicker and easier. No one would teach much to me in that method because there was a concern I should learn it the way they teach it now.

I have searched for this "old math" methodology and come up dry. Can anyone help me to find it or a book?

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You are so right. The new math has been a desaster. College professors complain that children now enter college unable to do basic math.

Yes, Math U See teaches the old math.

thats probably the stuff i learned!!hahahhaah

i wonder if rays arithmetic uses it? some of its free online

Ray's New Primary Arithmetic

http://books.google.com/books?id=ntTy0NUjKHQC&dq=free+ray's+arithmetic&pg=PP1&ots=1tWQT_uPi2&source=citation&sig=9FLY29dJ8-Mj5BFjbEFufrJ7EBw&oi=book_result&ct=result&hl=en

Ray's New Intellectual Arithmetic

http://books.google.com/books?id=cddHAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=ray%27s++intellectual+arithmetic&ei=JTuKSM6LGYqeswPWjNiPDw

Ray's New Practical Mathematics

http://books.google.com/books?id=tb-blvznpS8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=ray%27s++practical+arithmetic&ei=ZTuKSK22Kof6sQOT1ImVBg

Key to New Intellectual and Practical

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZtEpb5LFNVcC&pg=PA5&dq=ket+to+ray%27s+new+intellectual+arithmetic&ei=ID2KSMDICIWQtAOf0Y04

Ray's New Higher Arithmetic

http://books.google.com/books?id=cNdHAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=ray%27s++new+higher+arithmetic&ei=7z2KSKSPA460sgP48MSXBg

Key to New Higher

http://books.google.com/books?id=lyRQTuXaiNUC&printsec=frontcover&dq=ket+to+ray%27s+higher+arithmetic&ei=rD2KSNb9E42AsgO20ankAQ

heres another site that might help

Thanks, I can use all the help I can get in this. I will look into all of these.

I struggled with school math but can do a lot of it in everyday life. I remember one time I had this problem that took up a whole page to do the way I was taught. My Dad did it in a few lines! My maternal grandfather was an accountant and he did it the old way and could do it faster as well.

Does anyone know when "New Math" became main stream? I am wondering if I can find someone with an old math textbook but would not know where to look.

*"Children are a gift from God."*

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Quoting KickButtMama:

You can read some of my math secrets here - http://www.cafemom.com/group/114079/forums/read/15329109/Shhhh_my_math_secrets

Quoting KickButtMama:

You can read some of my math secrets here - http://www.cafemom.com/group/114079/forums/read/15329109/Shhhh_my_math_secrets

This is very interesting. I have a question for you. You say that stressing number memorizing is not so important as understanding a quantity? I am not sure how this will work with my son. Are you saying I should not try to get him to recognize numerals when he sees them? He is about 34 months and finally learning to associate one object with one count. I tell him, "touch one, count one." And he has been a master sorter since he was about 7-8 months. But he does not recognize numerals yet. I was thinking of working with him on this by drawing numbers but now am not sure.

Would you please expound on this a little?

I am one of those people for which most of school math never made sense, especially the story problems. I still remember one where some farmer bought fence before he bought his land and the question was "how much land should he buy for his fence?" The way I am wired, I could not get past that horrible decision of his. My first thought was, "If the idiot does not know he should buy his fence after he knows his acreage, he deserves to have the wrong amount of fence sitting around." I think systematically, orderly and logically and most of the math I was taught was not presented that way.

This impracticality of learning real life situations can still leave me standing at a dilemma in life knowing I should know how to figure out what number I need yet ...without knowing how to get there. :-( I don't want my son to have the same issue and I would love to learn a little for myself along the way to help him and to better myself.

*"Children are a gift from God."*

well i remember when i was in the last years of school and they were talking about new math then, in the 70s

just checked on expedia and it says 60s

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Thanks, I can use all the help I can get in this. I will look into all of these.

I struggled with school math but can do a lot of it in everyday life. I remember one time I had this problem that took up a whole page to do the way I was taught. My Dad did it in a few lines! My maternal grandfather was an accountant and he did it the old way and could do it faster as well.

Does anyone know when "New Math" became main stream? I am wondering if I can find someone with an old math textbook but would not know where to look.

these were all great but the last one was my favorite! what a wealth of info!

Quoting oredeb:

thats probably the stuff i learned!!hahahhaah

i wonder if rays arithmetic uses it? some of its free online

Ray's New Primary Arithmetic

http://books.google.com/books?id=ntTy0NUjKHQC&dq=free+ray's+arithmetic&pg=PP1&ots=1tWQT_uPi2&source=citation&sig=9FLY29dJ8-Mj5BFjbEFufrJ7EBw&oi=book_result&ct=result&hl=en

Ray's New Intellectual Arithmetic

http://books.google.com/books?id=cddHAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=ray%27s++intellectual+arithmetic&ei=JTuKSM6LGYqeswPWjNiPDw

Ray's New Practical Mathematics

http://books.google.com/books?id=tb-blvznpS8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=ray%27s++practical+arithmetic&ei=ZTuKSK22Kof6sQOT1ImVBg

Key to New Intellectual and Practical

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZtEpb5LFNVcC&pg=PA5&dq=ket+to+ray%27s+new+intellectual+arithmetic&ei=ID2KSMDICIWQtAOf0Y04

Ray's New Higher Arithmetic

http://books.google.com/books?id=cNdHAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=ray%27s++new+higher+arithmetic&ei=7z2KSKSPA460sgP48MSXBg

Key to New Higher

http://books.google.com/books?id=lyRQTuXaiNUC&printsec=frontcover&dq=ket+to+ray%27s+higher+arithmetic&ei=rD2KSNb9E42AsgO20ankAQheres another site that might help

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- Lisa009

on Jun. 2, 2012 at 3:54 AM