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If homeschooling became illegal....

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by on Mar. 23, 2013 at 2:15 PM
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bren_darlene
by Bronze Member on Mar. 24, 2013 at 3:37 PM
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 One more point on this subject.  Several of my children graduated in TX.  One started college as I mentioned and two went military.   In TX you are considered a private school and you can issue your own diploma.  I think if my children had to be tested the school that the older ones had attended would have told me or come after me since I pulled them out to home educate.  I was involved in the local homeschool support groups (2) and a member of HSLDA and the Texas Homeschool Coalition. I think they would have known also if there was testing. 

Quoting bren_darlene:


 There is absolutely NO STATE TESTING in TX for home educators.  I have home educated for 20+ years and did my first 12 or 13 in TX.  In TX you do not report, test or anything. They only tell you to teach the basics. Period.  The only "tests" my child (only one did this) did was an entrance test for college. Had nothing to do with public school.  He was 16 and had finished his school so he wanted to do some college. They gave him a test and he started.

Quoting locomomma3196:


i would like very much to know exactly what testing you are talking about. I have read up on the laws here in Tx, and have found nothing saying what you are stating. Perhaps i am overlooking something. Wont you please post a link  to something legit that states this. I don't like to be misinformed.

Quoting specialwingz:

I'm not a troll.  That's just your lame way of trolling yourself.  I simply live in Texas and know for a fact what homeschool students have had to do.  It's possible that things vary between counties.  Even the grading system is inconsistent within this state.  I know teachers that teach in all our surrounding counties, and the grading systems are different.  Some counties grade with ABC as passing and DF as failing.  Some, grade with ABCD passing and only F as failing.  And, before you accuse me of being a troll on this, I am involved with the group lobbying the state board of education to get this changed.

But, if you want to go on believing that one can just homeschool their kids with no state regulation, you go right ahead.  At least it explains the lower level of education in this state.

Quoting usmom3:

 I don't know what to tell you the law is the law & testing is not a graduation requirement in Texas even if you want to go to collage the testing isn't for graduation it is for attending collage.

Here are the laws & a simple break down of the laws from multiple places. If you come back to argue more then I will know you are nothing more then a troll wanting to stir up trouble because if you read what is in the links you can't argue your case.

ncll.org

Homeschoolfacts.com

homeschooling.gomilpitas.com

A SUMMARY OF TEXAS HOME SCHOOL LAW

Texas home schools are considered "private schools" by state law.  You are required to teach reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship.  The Texas Education Code requires public schools to attend 180 days a year, but there are no minimum requirements set forth for private schools such as a home school.

As a private school, you do not have to let anyone from the school district enter your house or speak to your children without a search warrant.  If you receive a written request from the school district to discuss your home schooling efforts, you must respond "in a timely manner" or the school district can file a truancy report based on lack of cooperation.  A "letter of assurance" to the school district should state you are meeting the education requirements of reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship.  If you have difficulties, there are home schooling legal defense organizations to help you, such as Texas Home School Coalition and Home School Legal Defense Association.

The bottom line?

  • You are a private school and as such, are NOT regulated by the school districts!
  • You do NOT have to let school officials or CPS in your house if they "drop in."
  • If contacted, politely tell them to put their request in writing and you'll be glad to respond.
  • You do not have attendance or testing requirements, only the requirement of teaching reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics, and good citizenship.

For more information on homeschooling laws in Texas, please visit the Home School Legal Defense Association website at:  http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp?State=TX or Texas Home School Coalition at:  http://www.thsc.org/FAQ/default.asp

Copyright © 2012 HEART - Home Education and Responsible Teaching

Homeschool Group Websitedeveloped by Homeschool-Life.comTM

 

Quoting specialwingz:

Well, I am a student advocate at a college in Austin.  And, I have 100 students in my group that were homeschooled.  And, they will attest to the fact that they had to pass a state approved assessment in order for their diplomas to be official.

Do what you like.  I couldn't care less.  But, your child(ren) will pay the price in the long run.

I'm not saying I'm against homeschooling.  I'm all for it.  I would have homeschooled my 4 kids if I could have.  But, I had to put a roof over their heads and food in their bellies.

But, to say there is absolutely NO state testing involved is wrong.








 I am a stay at home,  home educating, non-vaxingmother to many children :)  And a very happy wife to a wonderful man!!!

RheaF
by Member on Mar. 24, 2013 at 3:40 PM
How do you get away with that? Not trying to argue, I just don't understand how you can simply not register. Do you worry about the state finding out and your kids getting in trouble for truancy? What if they want to go to college?

Quoting bren_darlene:

That is one of the reasons we have never registered. We do not believe the government has any say in our families lives.  If they don't know where we are at in the first place it will be harder for them to find us. lol

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lucsch
by on Mar. 24, 2013 at 4:06 PM
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As far as college, you generally need a high school transcript, with the listing of  textbooks/books used for each class and the grade and scale used, and also an ACT or a SAT score to be considered for admission. Our local campus of Indiana University/Purdue University has an office specifically for homeschooling admittance.

We issue our own homeschool high school diplomas here.

I am so glad that Indiana is so homeschool friendly.

bren_darlene
by Bronze Member on Mar. 24, 2013 at 4:54 PM
No, I don't worry. If they ever were to come and say we had to register we would sell our place and move. It is our convictions that our children are not government property therefore they have no say in their lives. I just issue my own diplomas. Fourteen of our fifteen are grown and I am now down to my last child (she is 15). Only 2 of our children went to college and there was no problem. We are not a family that encourages college. The two highest paid of our children did not go to college. lol But if they want they can get in.
Quoting RheaF:

How do you get away with that? Not trying to argue, I just don't understand how you can simply not register. Do you worry about the state finding out and your kids getting in trouble for truancy? What if they want to go to college?

Quoting bren_darlene:

That is one of the reasons we have never registered. We do not believe the government has any say in our families lives.  If they don't know where we are at in the first place it will be harder for them to find us. lol


 I am a stay at home,  home educating, non-vaxingmother to many children :)  And a very happy wife to a wonderful man!!!

RheaF
by Member on Mar. 24, 2013 at 7:14 PM
I assume you live in a state that does not require you to register? Again, I respect your choice, just curious. In DE, it is pretty relaxed. However, we have to register as a non-public school and register the kids every year. If not they will be onside red truant and we could get in trouble.

Quoting bren_darlene:

No, I don't worry. If they ever were to come and say we had to register we would sell our place and move. It is our convictions that our children are not government property therefore they have no say in their lives. I just issue my own diplomas. Fourteen of our fifteen are grown and I am now down to my last child (she is 15). Only 2 of our children went to college and there was no problem. We are not a family that encourages college. The two highest paid of our children did not go to college. lol But if they want they can get in.



Quoting RheaF:

How do you get away with that? Not trying to argue, I just don't understand how you can simply not register. Do you worry about the state finding out and your kids getting in trouble for truancy? What if they want to go to college?



Quoting bren_darlene:

That is one of the reasons we have never registered. We do not believe the government has any say in our families lives.  If they don't know where we are at in the first place it will be harder for them to find us. lol



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RheaF
by Member on Mar. 24, 2013 at 7:18 PM
We also do not push college. DH has a bachelors in biology, spent 13 years in one field, was laid off, and spent 15 months on unemployment. He now works as an appliance repair tech, and makes almost as much as he did before, doing something he loves. Before becoming a SAHM, I was a massage therapist. So I know you can make good money without a college degree.

Quoting RheaF:

I assume you live in a state that does not require you to register? Again, I respect your choice, just curious. In DE, it is pretty relaxed. However, we have to register as a non-public school and register the kids every year. If not they will be onside red truant and we could get in trouble.



Quoting bren_darlene:

No, I don't worry. If they ever were to come and say we had to register we would sell our place and move. It is our convictions that our children are not government property therefore they have no say in their lives. I just issue my own diplomas. Fourteen of our fifteen are grown and I am now down to my last child (she is 15). Only 2 of our children went to college and there was no problem. We are not a family that encourages college. The two highest paid of our children did not go to college. lol But if they want they can get in.






Quoting RheaF:

How do you get away with that? Not trying to argue, I just don't understand how you can simply not register. Do you worry about the state finding out and your kids getting in trouble for truancy? What if they want to go to college?





Quoting bren_darlene:

That is one of the reasons we have never registered. We do not believe the government has any say in our families lives.  If they don't know where we are at in the first place it will be harder for them to find us. lol




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bren_darlene
by Bronze Member on Mar. 24, 2013 at 8:34 PM
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Well yes, the state I am in does require you to register/report and to test.  My first 12 or 13 years of home educating was in a free state (TX) where you didn't have to do anything at all. Much better :-)   But as I said we just don't do it as our children are ours, not theirs.

Quoting RheaF:

I assume you live in a state that does not require you to register? Again, I respect your choice, just curious. In DE, it is pretty relaxed. However, we have to register as a non-public school and register the kids every year. If not they will be onside red truant and we could get in trouble.

Quoting bren_darlene:

No, I don't worry. If they ever were to come and say we had to register we would sell our place and move. It is our convictions that our children are not government property therefore they have no say in their lives. I just issue my own diplomas. Fourteen of our fifteen are grown and I am now down to my last child (she is 15). Only 2 of our children went to college and there was no problem. We are not a family that encourages college. The two highest paid of our children did not go to college. lol But if they want they can get in.



Quoting RheaF:

How do you get away with that? Not trying to argue, I just don't understand how you can simply not register. Do you worry about the state finding out and your kids getting in trouble for truancy? What if they want to go to college?



Quoting bren_darlene:

That is one of the reasons we have never registered. We do not believe the government has any say in our families lives.  If they don't know where we are at in the first place it will be harder for them to find us. lol





 I am a stay at home,  home educating, non-vaxingmother to many children :)  And a very happy wife to a wonderful man!!!

Koltie6
by on Mar. 24, 2013 at 9:52 PM
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We are in Texas . There is no testing here . Diplomas are issued by the parent. Our Govenor is a huge supportor of homeschooling.


Quoting specialwingz:

They DO TO have to be tested in Texas.  I know over 100 homeschool grads that had to take a state test before their diploma was official!

Quoting usmom3:

 It wouldn't happen over night so as soon as I knew it was going to happen I would order my kids diplomas because the way the law is written in my state (Texas) it is up to the parent to decide when a child is ready to graduate (no age restriction or testing required) & I am pretty sure they would have to grandfather clause all past homeschool graduates, so as long as they have diplomas that are dated before it becomes illegal they would be safe. If for some reason that plan doesn't work we would go off grid.



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specialwingz
by on Mar. 24, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Perry is an idiot.

Quoting Koltie6:

We are in Texas . There is no testing here . Diplomas are issued by the parent. Our Govenor is a huge supportor of homeschooling.


Quoting specialwingz:

They DO TO have to be tested in Texas.  I know over 100 homeschool grads that had to take a state test before their diploma was official!

Quoting usmom3:

 It wouldn't happen over night so as soon as I knew it was going to happen I would order my kids diplomas because the way the law is written in my state (Texas) it is up to the parent to decide when a child is ready to graduate (no age restriction or testing required) & I am pretty sure they would have to grandfather clause all past homeschool graduates, so as long as they have diplomas that are dated before it becomes illegal they would be safe. If for some reason that plan doesn't work we would go off grid.




bren_darlene
by Bronze Member on Mar. 24, 2013 at 9:56 PM
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Bright and intelligent reply. LOL
Quoting specialwingz:

Perry is an idiot.

Quoting Koltie6:

We are in Texas . There is no testing here . Diplomas are issued by the parent. Our Govenor is a huge supportor of homeschooling.


Quoting specialwingz:

They DO TO have to be tested in Texas.  I know over 100 homeschool grads that had to take a state test before their diploma was official!

Quoting usmom3:

 It wouldn't happen over night so as soon as I knew it was going to happen I would order my kids diplomas because the way the law is written in my state (Texas) it is up to the parent to decide when a child is ready to graduate (no age restriction or testing required) & I am pretty sure they would have to grandfather clause all past homeschool graduates, so as long as they have diplomas that are dated before it becomes illegal they would be safe. If for some reason that plan doesn't work we would go off grid.





 I am a stay at home,  home educating, non-vaxingmother to many children :)  And a very happy wife to a wonderful man!!!

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