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I haven't decided if I am or not just because I haven't read ANY of the information on what exactly is going on in this case. But most likely I will. http://www.hslda.org/legal/cases/romeike.asp

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by on Apr. 5, 2013 at 12:59 PM
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MorningValley
by on Apr. 6, 2013 at 12:28 AM

My point exactly.  They don't feel it's worthy.   That is trouble for us.

Quoting AutymsMommy:


They aren't deporting them because they are homeschooling. From what I understand, they have decided that not being allowed to homeschool in your own country isn't worthy of ASYLUM here.

And what trouble is this stirring up for homeschoolers in the United States? I haven't heard of any, frankly. You will always have those against it and those who support it.

Quoting MorningValley:

So I talked to my husband and we are going to sign it.  He said that he doesn't think you can become a legal citizen if you are here under asylum (spelling?).    And we were talking about if the tables were turned....if they want to become citizens and can't it really changes the argument of some on here.  

Plus the big thing that made us decide to sign it is the fact that there are millions of illegals here nd they THIS family to deport?   Because they homeschool their kids?!!?  Seriously red flags all over this!   It's the government agenda.   They are only deporting because they homeschool!!!   I'm sorry but if this happens to them,  what are we in for next?

The fact that this is even happening is already stirring up trouble for homeschoolers here in the USA.   It is a clear sign of what's to happen to us in the next few years.





Married the Love of My Life 9/7/02
Jency Paul Douglas 6/30/05
Tesher Robert Walter 12/31/08
Zerah Janae Lyn 3/26/12
Angel babies edd 10/22/08, 11/8/11, 10/20/13

maggiemom2000
by Member on Apr. 6, 2013 at 1:12 AM
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Quoting MorningValley:

So I talked to my husband and we are going to sign it.  He said that he doesn't think you can become a legal citizen if you are here under asylum (spelling?).    And we were talking about if the tables were turned....if they want to become citizens and can't it really changes the argument of some on here.  

Plus the big thing that made us decide to sign it is the fact that there are millions of illegals here nd they THIS family to deport?   Because they homeschool their kids?!!?  Seriously red flags all over this!   It's the government agenda.   They are only deporting because they homeschool!!!   I'm sorry but if this happens to them,  what are we in for next?

The fact that this is even happening is already stirring up trouble for homeschoolers here in the USA.   It is a clear sign of what's to happen to us in the next few years.


They are not being deported because they homeschool their kids.

This family is not being singled out to be deported. There are plenty of other people being deported every day. The only way this family is being singled out is that their story has made the news.

This has nothing to do with the fact that they are homeschooling here in the US. 

This is in no way stirring up trouble for homeschoolers in the USA. If anything, I think it will have the opposite affect. It will renew the passion that we maintain this freedom in the USA.

jen2150
by Silver Member on Apr. 6, 2013 at 8:43 AM
That has nothing to do with what I asked.
Quoting sha_lyn68:

The death penalty and trial in abstaintia are the 2 that come to mind. Many countries with extradition treaties with the US will not allow extradition of a US citizen hiding in their country who will face the death penalty in the US or who was tried in abstaintia. Look up the Unicorn killer.

Quoting jen2150:

What laws are you referring to? There are many laws here that are a travesty. If you have an unfair law it deserves all the attention it is getting.
Quoting AutymsMommy:


Many places consider our laws (here) to be a travesty. Does that give them the right to stick their noses in it?

Quoting jen2150:

I haven't read about the case too much. I consider not being able to homeschool a travesty. German school system is very harmful to some children. If you ever read what Albert Einstein said about German schools you will know what I mean. Obviously the US can't take in everyone but it still deserves a fair hearing. I can't imagine living in a country where most of my rights have been taken away.






jen2150
by Silver Member on Apr. 6, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Homeschooling is a fundamental right.   Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are all fundamental rights.  So as long as your country isn't trying to kill you you have all your fundamental rights.  Mass murder is definately worse but that doesn't mean that homeschooling isn't a fundamental right.  No just government has the right to take your children and educate or brainwash as they see fit.  Yes, governments do brainwash children at a young age.  How do you think hitler was able to do what he did?  


Quoting AutymsMommy:


Are you really comparing mass murder to... homeschooling?

One involves the fundamental right to LIFE - the other???

Don't be ridiculous.

Quoting MorningValley:

Which is exactly why the holocaust happened.   Americans KNEW it was happening but "didn't want to interfere with mother countries laws." We didn't get into WWII until we were threatened...we didn't care people were dying because of their beliefs, we only cared about our selfish well being and agenda...as long as it doesn't affect us right?  What if the tables were turned?

Quoting AutymsMommy:

I disagree that unfair laws (those that do not directly affect a citizens GIVEN fundamental rights) should be interfered with by other countries. That is asking for trouble.



Quoting jen2150:

What laws are you referring to? There are many laws here that are a travesty. If you have an unfair law it deserves all the attention it is getting.
Quoting AutymsMommy:


Many places consider our laws (here) to be a travesty. Does that give them the right to stick their noses in it?

Quoting jen2150:

I haven't read about the case too much. I consider not being able to homeschool a travesty. German school system is very harmful to some children. If you ever read what Albert Einstein said about German schools you will know what I mean. Obviously the US can't take in everyone but it still deserves a fair hearing. I can't imagine living in a country where most of my rights have been taken away.











mem82
by Platinum Member on Apr. 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM
I see both sides of this. I do believe they have a basic right to educate their children. I also worry about opening the amnesty flood gates and people applying for it all willy nilly. We can't take in every one and there are so many victims of War that need our help. Why don't they simply apply for a green card? They obviously have sponsors here.
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AutymsMommy
by Silver Member on Apr. 6, 2013 at 9:16 AM
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I'm done here. It's obvious that I've now run into the crowd who believes the schools are inherently evil and wish to brainwash our children. I have nothing to add to that conversation but to say conspiracy theories aren't my gig. Have a good one.

Quoting jen2150:

Homeschooling is a fundamental right.   Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are all fundamental rights.  So as long as your country isn't trying to kill you you have all your fundamental rights.  Mass murder is definately worse but that doesn't mean that homeschooling isn't a fundamental right.  No just government has the right to take your children and educate or brainwash as they see fit.  Yes, governments do brainwash children at a young age.  How do you think hitler was able to do what he did?  


Quoting AutymsMommy:


Are you really comparing mass murder to... homeschooling?

One involves the fundamental right to LIFE - the other???

Don't be ridiculous.

Quoting MorningValley:

Which is exactly why the holocaust happened.   Americans KNEW it was happening but "didn't want to interfere with mother countries laws." We didn't get into WWII until we were threatened...we didn't care people were dying because of their beliefs, we only cared about our selfish well being and agenda...as long as it doesn't affect us right?  What if the tables were turned?

Quoting AutymsMommy:

I disagree that unfair laws (those that do not directly affect a citizens GIVEN fundamental rights) should be interfered with by other countries. That is asking for trouble.



Quoting jen2150:

What laws are you referring to? There are many laws here that are a travesty. If you have an unfair law it deserves all the attention it is getting.
Quoting AutymsMommy:


Many places consider our laws (here) to be a travesty. Does that give them the right to stick their noses in it?

Quoting jen2150:

I haven't read about the case too much. I consider not being able to homeschool a travesty. German school system is very harmful to some children. If you ever read what Albert Einstein said about German schools you will know what I mean. Obviously the US can't take in everyone but it still deserves a fair hearing. I can't imagine living in a country where most of my rights have been taken away.













I am a Home Schooling, Vaccinating, Non spanking, Nightmare Cuddling, Dessert Giving, Bedtime Kissing, Book Reading, Stay at Home Mom. I believe in the benefit of organized after school activities and nosy, involved parents. I believe in spoiling my children. I believe that I have seen the village and I do not want it anywhere near my children. Now for the controversial stuff: we have traditional gender roles, we're Catholic, I'm Libertarian, he's Republican, we're both conservative, and we own guns (now there's no need to ask, lol).             Aimee














AutymsMommy
by Silver Member on Apr. 6, 2013 at 9:18 AM
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Ah. You're one of those. Cool beans.


Quoting MorningValley:

My point exactly.  They don't feel it's worthy.   That is trouble for us.

Quoting AutymsMommy:


They aren't deporting them because they are homeschooling. From what I understand, they have decided that not being allowed to homeschool in your own country isn't worthy of ASYLUM here.

And what trouble is this stirring up for homeschoolers in the United States? I haven't heard of any, frankly. You will always have those against it and those who support it.

Quoting MorningValley:

So I talked to my husband and we are going to sign it.  He said that he doesn't think you can become a legal citizen if you are here under asylum (spelling?).    And we were talking about if the tables were turned....if they want to become citizens and can't it really changes the argument of some on here.  

Plus the big thing that made us decide to sign it is the fact that there are millions of illegals here nd they THIS family to deport?   Because they homeschool their kids?!!?  Seriously red flags all over this!   It's the government agenda.   They are only deporting because they homeschool!!!   I'm sorry but if this happens to them,  what are we in for next?

The fact that this is even happening is already stirring up trouble for homeschoolers here in the USA.   It is a clear sign of what's to happen to us in the next few years.







I am a Home Schooling, Vaccinating, Non spanking, Nightmare Cuddling, Dessert Giving, Bedtime Kissing, Book Reading, Stay at Home Mom. I believe in the benefit of organized after school activities and nosy, involved parents. I believe in spoiling my children. I believe that I have seen the village and I do not want it anywhere near my children. Now for the controversial stuff: we have traditional gender roles, we're Catholic, I'm Libertarian, he's Republican, we're both conservative, and we own guns (now there's no need to ask, lol).             Aimee














AutymsMommy
by Silver Member on Apr. 6, 2013 at 9:19 AM
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Yes it does.

And several other nations also take issue with that the United States doesn't, as a whole, recognize same sex marriage.

Quoting jen2150:

That has nothing to do with what I asked.
Quoting sha_lyn68:

The death penalty and trial in abstaintia are the 2 that come to mind. Many countries with extradition treaties with the US will not allow extradition of a US citizen hiding in their country who will face the death penalty in the US or who was tried in abstaintia. Look up the Unicorn killer.

Quoting jen2150:

What laws are you referring to? There are many laws here that are a travesty. If you have an unfair law it deserves all the attention it is getting.
Quoting AutymsMommy:


Many places consider our laws (here) to be a travesty. Does that give them the right to stick their noses in it?

Quoting jen2150:

I haven't read about the case too much. I consider not being able to homeschool a travesty. German school system is very harmful to some children. If you ever read what Albert Einstein said about German schools you will know what I mean. Obviously the US can't take in everyone but it still deserves a fair hearing. I can't imagine living in a country where most of my rights have been taken away.








I am a Home Schooling, Vaccinating, Non spanking, Nightmare Cuddling, Dessert Giving, Bedtime Kissing, Book Reading, Stay at Home Mom. I believe in the benefit of organized after school activities and nosy, involved parents. I believe in spoiling my children. I believe that I have seen the village and I do not want it anywhere near my children. Now for the controversial stuff: we have traditional gender roles, we're Catholic, I'm Libertarian, he's Republican, we're both conservative, and we own guns (now there's no need to ask, lol).             Aimee














sha_lyn68
by Bronze Member on Apr. 6, 2013 at 11:31 AM

It most certainly does. You asked what laws in the US are considered a travesty by other countries. I gave you an example of 2, both of which you will find apply to the Unicorn killer case.

Quoting jen2150:

That has nothing to do with what I asked.
Quoting sha_lyn68:

The death penalty and trial in abstaintia are the 2 that come to mind. Many countries with extradition treaties with the US will not allow extradition of a US citizen hiding in their country who will face the death penalty in the US or who was tried in abstaintia. Look up the Unicorn killer.

Quoting jen2150:

What laws are you referring to? There are many laws here that are a travesty. If you have an unfair law it deserves all the attention it is getting.
Quoting AutymsMommy:


Many places consider our laws (here) to be a travesty. Does that give them the right to stick their noses in it?

Quoting jen2150:

I haven't read about the case too much. I consider not being able to homeschool a travesty. German school system is very harmful to some children. If you ever read what Albert Einstein said about German schools you will know what I mean. Obviously the US can't take in everyone but it still deserves a fair hearing. I can't imagine living in a country where most of my rights have been taken away.







sha_lyn68
by Bronze Member on Apr. 6, 2013 at 11:38 AM


Quoting maggiemom2000:


Quoting MorningValley:

So I talked to my husband and we are going to sign it.  He said that he doesn't think you can become a legal citizen if you are here under asylum (spelling?).    And we were talking about if the tables were turned....if they want to become citizens and can't it really changes the argument of some on here.  

Plus the big thing that made us decide to sign it is the fact that there are millions of illegals here nd they THIS family to deport?   Because they homeschool their kids?!!?  Seriously red flags all over this!   It's the government agenda.   They are only deporting because they homeschool!!!   I'm sorry but if this happens to them,  what are we in for next?

The fact that this is even happening is already stirring up trouble for homeschoolers here in the USA.   It is a clear sign of what's to happen to us in the next few years.


They are not being deported because they homeschool their kids.

This family is not being singled out to be deported. There are plenty of other people being deported every day. The only way this family is being singled out is that their story has made the news.

This has nothing to do with the fact that they are homeschooling here in the US. 

This is in no way stirring up trouble for homeschoolers in the USA. If anything, I think it will have the opposite affect. It will renew the passion that we maintain this freedom in the USA.

IMHO the story probably isn't even news outside of the homeschool community. As you said, people are deported every day. Heck our old chiropractor's fiancee was an exchange student from Australia. She had a student visa. Went to AU to get things ready for their move to AU. Headed back to the US for their wedding and refused entry because she had left and re-entered the country "too many times", although her visa had not restrictions on the amount of times she left and entered and they hadeven  asked immigration if going back and forth would be a problem. I think it was her third time in right at a year. Christmas the yr before, a semester she took off that summer (US summer) and then the 3rd time was in Dec right before the wedding.

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