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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/20/Obama-catholic-AMericans-religious-freedom
by on Jun. 20, 2013 at 4:08 PM
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chotovec82
by Bronze Member on Jun. 20, 2013 at 9:36 PM
Yup he can have those beliefs and opinions (never said he couldn't). I just hate that he was (is?) still trying to push it.


Quoting AutymsMommy:


*shrug*

It makes sense to me, that if he believes assault rifles should be banned from the general pop, he would obviously try to ban them.

I may disagree with him and I would never support his efforts there (on any level), but I do understand *why* people I disagree with do the things they do, and push the agendas they push - because they have different priorities and different beliefs than I personally hold. I'm cool with that.

"I may disagree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." <---- Applies to president obama as well as others I come across that I disagree with. I will NEVER support his preferred gun legislation, but I'll defend his right to HOLD and VOICE his beliefs and preferences regarding guns; what I disagree with, fundamentally, is him trying to push that onto others, of course :)


Quoting chotovec82:

No I never said a complete gun ban but I am pretty sure assault rifles were a proposed ban at one time.

I also know his secret servicemen are trained and he wasn't including them and I also get why they are necessary for his protection; however, it's been proven that trained military men have become terrorist here. Lee Harvey Oswuld. He killed JFK and was a marksmen in the US military. That's just one out of a few. So, I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to me.









Quoting AutymsMommy:


To be fair, he never advocated for a complete gun ban, that I'm aware of, and his gun control ideas never included trained military or police forces (which his secret service agents are, on some level).

(To be clear, I'm a conservative and gun owner, I'm just not one who wishes to perpetrate misconceptions - I've never heard him advocate for a gun ban or to infer/dictate that everyone should be without a gun).



Quoting chotovec82:

True but he doesn't seem to be the person to practice what you preach either. He was all for 'better' gun control and maybe even making some guns illegal to own; yet I am sure his secret service agents and whomever else are responsible for him own and carry guns...








Quoting AutymsMommy:

I don't disagree with you.

Although, oddly enough, his own children aren't in public school, so it would be a strange assertion for him to make, lol.

I do understand why his children aren't in public school (security concerns come to mind - the school they attend is frequented by children of elite public figures and their secuirty measures reflect that), but if he were to make an outright assertion, ever, that children should be in public school, he would have to put his children where his mouth is and I can't imagine him taking that risk (I wouldn't, as a parent... and as much as I disagree with his politics, he does seem like an exceptional father).





Quoting chotovec82:

That's what I thought also. However, it's not just catholic schools; it's any faith based school. This, imo, could go from an attack on private schools to an attack on homeschoolers. I believe he did say something about to rid of us differences that having all kids in public school would be the only way. I felt like he was being a huge Marxist when he said that.











Quoting AutymsMommy:

His "speech", him making the speech, etc.

Essentially, it seems he would love to do away with Catholic education in general, at least that is how my (admittedly biased) mind is reading it.






Quoting chotovec82:

Not impressed with what? The article, Obama, etc...?



















Quoting AutymsMommy:

This Catholic isn't impressed.


































celticdragon77
by on Jun. 20, 2013 at 10:03 PM

BELFAST, Northern Ireland (AP) — President Barack Obama is appealing to Northern Ireland's youth to sustain their peace in his first opportunity to highlight the role the United States has played helping bring about reconciliation in the country.

Obama, his wife and daughters arrived at Belfast on a drizzly Monday morning. After his Belfast speech he will attend a two-day summit of the Group of Eight industrial economies.

The G-8, despite an agenda devoted to trade, economic growth and international tax issues, will be eclipsed by discussions over how to address the two-year-old conflict in Syria and the decision by the United States to begin supplying rebels with military aid.

Syria will be the focus later Monday when Obama meets on the sidelines of the G-8 withRussian President Vladimir Putin. The Russian government has criticized the decision to arm rebels and has disputed the Obama administration's claims that Bashar Assad's regime in Syria has used chemical weapons against the opposition.

Obama also was having one-on-one meetings Monday with British Prime Minister David Cameron and Italian Prime Minister Enrico Letta. Other countries that belong to the G-8 include Canada, Japan, France, and Germany.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-n-ireland-speech-g-8-putin-tap-074120938.html

Remy11
by on Jun. 21, 2013 at 8:50 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/19/Obama-Catholic-Schools-Divisive

Interesting take on the speech which I agree with personally.
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