# math & other "failures?" for lack of better word... ((super long)) **ETA: in green**

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Thank you so much for your suggestion. I'm concerned, though, that it won't help her sit down and "put it on paper" to learn it through video games either. However, I think that might be a terrific supplement. I'll look it up soon and see if she would enjoy that.

Quoting usmom3:I cut & pasted this from the OP "So... what is your opinion ladies? she obviously KNOWS the work. However, I'm concerned about moving into algebra and higher maths if she cannot work it out on paper."

She says she knows the information but doesn't like to work things out on paper wouldn't something like Dragonbox be great for her if she likes video games?

Quoting AutymsMommy:

I think Krissy is saying that she isn't ready for algebra yet - that she's worried about her moving into algebra without having really retained the necessary foundation in arithmetic.

Quoting usmom3:

Dose she like video games? There is an app that teaches algebra in a fun video game I don't remember what it is called but I know a lot of homeschoolers & unschoolers use it for their children.

She very much might be. I've read somewhere that mentally gifted kids can have serious issues in other areas of their life and development, and she definately fits that. This poor child can struggle very hard socially and in other areas (I'll protect her privacy and not get into those)...

Quoting PurpleCupcake:Just my opinion...and I could be wrong...but she sounds like a gifted child. Teaching gifted children is much different from teaching the average child.

Do you think she may be gifted?

** Why is it so important for her to put it on paper if she knows it? If it is to prove to you that she knows it isn't it enough for her to get the answers right?**

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Quoting KrissyKC:

Thank you so much for your suggestion. I'm concerned, though, that it won't help her sit down and "put it on paper" to learn it through video games either. However, I think that might be a terrific supplement. I'll look it up soon and see if she would enjoy that.

Quoting usmom3:

I cut & pasted this from the OP "So... what is your opinion ladies? she obviously KNOWS the work. However, I'm concerned about moving into algebra and higher maths if she cannot work it out on paper."

She says she knows the information but doesn't like to work things out on paper wouldn't something like Dragonbox be great for her if she likes video games?

Quoting AutymsMommy:

I think Krissy is saying that she isn't ready for algebra yet - that she's worried about her moving into algebra without having really retained the necessary foundation in arithmetic.

Quoting usmom3:

Dose she like video games? There is an app that teaches algebra in a fun video game I don't remember what it is called but I know a lot of homeschoolers & unschoolers use it for their children.

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She is leaning toward a very mathematical or science based career. Yes, she does have to be able to put it on paper. She will need to do much more complex things in the upcoming years.

There were a few years recently she wanted to be a forensic accountant. Then she switched to "something" to do with forensics.. then she leaned toward biology or some type of scientist. She is extremely smart... brialliant even.. I just want to equip her for college and whatever direction she wants her life to go. We use a multimedia approach, but a constant video game approach isn't the only thing that her Dad and I feel she needs.

Quoting usmom3:Why is it so important for her to put it on paper if she knows it? If it is to prove to you that she knows it isn't it enough for her to get the answers right?

Quoting KrissyKC:

Thank you so much for your suggestion. I'm concerned, though, that it won't help her sit down and "put it on paper" to learn it through video games either. However, I think that might be a terrific supplement. I'll look it up soon and see if she would enjoy that.

Quoting usmom3:

I cut & pasted this from the OP "So... what is your opinion ladies? she obviously KNOWS the work. However, I'm concerned about moving into algebra and higher maths if she cannot work it out on paper."

She says she knows the information but doesn't like to work things out on paper wouldn't something like Dragonbox be great for her if she likes video games?

Quoting AutymsMommy:

I think Krissy is saying that she isn't ready for algebra yet - that she's worried about her moving into algebra without having really retained the necessary foundation in arithmetic.

Quoting usmom3:

Dose she like video games? There is an app that teaches algebra in a fun video game I don't remember what it is called but I know a lot of homeschoolers & unschoolers use it for their children.

** Then I think it would be time for a talk with her about how it is part of her career choice that she needs to get used to or she needs to think of another career she wants to do if she hates showing her work so much!**

Quoting KrissyKC:

She is leaning toward a very mathematical or science based career. Yes, she does have to be able to put it on paper. She will need to do much more complex things in the upcoming years.

There were a few years recently she wanted to be a forensic accountant. Then she switched to "something" to do with forensics.. then she leaned toward biology or some type of scientist. She is extremely smart... brialliant even.. I just want to equip her for college and whatever direction she wants her life to go. We use a multimedia approach, but a constant video game approach isn't the only thing that her Dad and I feel she needs.

Quoting usmom3:

Why is it so important for her to put it on paper if she knows it? If it is to prove to you that she knows it isn't it enough for her to get the answers right?

Quoting KrissyKC:

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Ok..I'll be honest here. I was a gifted child...and let me tell you if my learn environment wasn't right, I would much rather shut down and do my own thing.

Here are some signs if gifted kids

- express curiosity about many things
- ask thoughtful questions
- have extensive vocabularies and use complex sentence structure
- are able to express themselves well
- solve problems in unique ways
- have good memories
- exhibit unusual talent in art, music, or creative dramatics
- exhibit especially original imaginations
- use previously learned things in new contexts
- are unusually able to order things in logical sequence
- discuss and elaborate on ideas
- are fast learners
- desire to work independently and take initiative
- exhibit wit and humor
- have sustained attention spans and are willing to persist on challenging tasks
- are very observant
- show talent in making up stories and telling them
- are interested in reading.

Does any of that fit your kid?

Quoting KrissyKC:She very much might be. I've read somewhere that mentally gifted kids can have serious issues in other areas of their life and development, and she definately fits that. This poor child can struggle very hard socially and in other areas (I'll protect her privacy and not get into those)...

Quoting PurpleCupcake:Just my opinion...and I could be wrong...but she sounds like a gifted child. Teaching gifted children is much different from teaching the average child.

Do you think she may be gifted?

Math is Destinay's weak subject, and she hates it, so I tell her if she does what she is supposed to do the first time, which I know she knows so we can get through Math quicker. I also try to give a fun activity right after she is done.

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- KrissyKC

on Sep. 25, 2013 at 11:23 PMVery awesome advice... thank you!

I really have no clue figuring out how she learns best in regards to math. I'm not sure which approach works best, because she actually LEARNS it VERY quickly. It's just a matter of getting her to go from learning and knowing into DOING.

Yes, I asked what she wanted out of a Math Program. Her answer? No work. She seems to actually not mind the Math U See approach.

Since she's doing sixth grade again, (and honestly, we almost did pre-algebra instead of Zeta), I like the idea of testing out of the work. However, since we want her to start paying attention to the details and accuracy, maybe I should say the test has to be 100% perfect to test out of the work. Would that be asking too much? Or at least 95% or above.

If she did that, I bet I'd be having to buy algebra curriculum by Christmas. Hey, I could even make it a present!!! LOL!!! Just kidding!