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Homeschool News....

Posted by on Oct. 20, 2013 at 7:09 PM
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Just thought everyone would be interested in this tidbit news. Enjoy.

North Carolina Lt. Gov. Dan Forest hasissued a press release
 telling parents who homeschool their children that they have the right under the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution to refuse warrantless entry into their homes by government officials without probable cause.
Forest issued the friendly reminder because, he says, North Carolina’s Division of Non-Public Education
 recently indicated its intention to resume inspecting the practices of homeschooling families across the state.
The Republican noted that homeschool inspection was a practice last seen in North Carolina in the 1980s. Back then, fewer than 1,000 students were homeschooled. Now, over 100,000 students have opted for education at home.
According to Raleigh CBS affiliate WRAL
, Forest was responding to a new policy by the Division of Non-Public Education’s to visit five homeschooling sites at random this year.
“This policy is intrusive, unnecessary, and has the potential to infringe on the constitutionally-protected privacy rights of tens of thousands of North Carolina homeschool families,” said the lieutenant governor.
“Homeschool families should follow the law relating to the keeping of records and their lawful inspection, but should not be compelled to let any government official into their house. It is not necessary and people should reject it.”
David Mills, the director of North Carolina’s Division of Non-Public Education Director, defended the attempt at warrantless searches, saying the goal “was to cause less inconvenience and give greater credibility to North Carolina homeschoolers.”
In a statement obtained by North Carolinians for Home Education
, Mills thickly listed several state laws to explain why he had chosen to attempt to make warrantless intrusions into the homes of homeschooling families.
In the next paragraph, he noted, “I am not an attorney.”
Mills also apologized “for any misconceptions given to any of the many homeschool families in North Carolina.”
By Monday evening, Mills had backed down further. “No site visits have been conducted and none are planned,” a statement from the Division of Non-Public Education said, according to WRAL. The statement added that the state still requires homeschooling families to keep records such as standardized test results, immunization records and attendance records.
The state can still inspect those records, but not — Mills seems to concede — by way of random intrusion into homes. Forest noted that the right against warrantless searches is also guaranteed under Article I, Section 20 of North Carolina’s state constitution.

  

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PurpleCupcake
by Cynthia on Oct. 20, 2013 at 7:23 PM
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angryWarrantless searches on homeschoolers! WTF,  are you telling me that someone would think that coming into my home without a warrant is ok because I'm a homeschooler?

Under that logic...a crack house would have more legal rights than me. 

Do you have a link? I need to save this some where. I'm in nc..I dare them to think they can come in my house without a warrant. If they just asked nicely, I might let them....but oh no they are not gonna force my door open. 




kirbymom
by Sonja on Oct. 20, 2013 at 7:47 PM
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Here's the link I saw...

http://news.yahoo.com/papiere-bitte-north-carolina-lt-gov-reminds-homeschool-134604002.html


Quoting PurpleCupcake:

angryWarrantless searches on homeschoolers! WTF,  are you telling me that someone would think that coming into my home without a warrant is ok because I'm a homeschooler?

Under that logic...a crack house would have more legal rights than me. 

Do you have a link? I need to save this some where. I'm in nc..I dare them to think they can come in my house without a warrant. If they just asked nicely, I might let them....but oh no they are not gonna force my door open. 


mem82
by Platinum Member on Oct. 21, 2013 at 8:04 AM
Yikes!
ambertreas76
by on Oct. 21, 2013 at 8:10 AM

I've only heard stories about the searches.  The 4th Amendment prohibits unwarranted searches and seizures.  If anyone shows up at your home and demands entry without warrant, you are to state your rights of the 4th Amendment and close the door.  Even DCFS!!  They are still doing the unwarranted searches because people allow it. People get scared and let anyone in if they have a badge.  Like I said, I've only heard stories.  Never let anyone in to search your home (for any reason) without a warrant.

kirbymom
by Sonja on Oct. 21, 2013 at 12:39 PM
Well, it must be happening if a governor is holding a press conference and announcing it to his constituency that homeschool that it is unconstitutional and to watch out for this kind of action.


Quoting ambertreas76:

I've only heard stories about the searches.  The 4th Amendment prohibits unwarranted searches and seizures.  If anyone shows up at your home and demands entry without warrant, you are to state your rights of the 4th Amendment and close the door.  Even DCFS!!  They are still doing the unwarranted searches because people allow it. People get scared and let anyone in if they have a badge.  Like I said, I've only heard stories.  Never let anyone in to search your home (for any reason) without a warrant.


kirbymom
by Sonja on Oct. 21, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Quoting mem82:

Yikes!



Very frustrating to say the least.
ambertreas76
by on Oct. 21, 2013 at 1:06 PM
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Oh I do not doubt that it is happening!!  I've personally known people who have had it happen.  I pray it never happens to us!!  

Quoting kirbymom:

Well, it must be happening if a governor is holding a press conference and announcing it to his constituency that homeschool that it is unconstitutional and to watch out for this kind of action.


Quoting ambertreas76:

I've only heard stories about the searches.  The 4th Amendment prohibits unwarranted searches and seizures.  If anyone shows up at your home and demands entry without warrant, you are to state your rights of the 4th Amendment and close the door.  Even DCFS!!  They are still doing the unwarranted searches because people allow it. People get scared and let anyone in if they have a badge.  Like I said, I've only heard stories.  Never let anyone in to search your home (for any reason) without a warrant.



kirbymom
by Sonja on Oct. 21, 2013 at 1:12 PM
Amen!


Quoting ambertreas76:

Oh I do not doubt that it is happening!!  I've personally known people who have had it happen.  I pray it never happens to us!!  

Quoting kirbymom:Well, it must be happening if a governor is holding a press conference and announcing it to his constituency that homeschool that it is unconstitutional and to watch out for this kind of action.


Quoting ambertreas76:

I've only heard stories about the searches.  The 4th Amendment prohibits unwarranted searches and seizures.  If anyone shows up at your home and demands entry without warrant, you are to state your rights of the 4th Amendment and close the door.  Even DCFS!!  They are still doing the unwarranted searches because people allow it. People get scared and let anyone in if they have a badge.  Like I said, I've only heard stories.  Never let anyone in to search your home (for any reason) without a warrant.




oredeb
by on Oct. 21, 2013 at 1:57 PM
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 not so good,

kirbymom
by Sonja on Oct. 21, 2013 at 2:05 PM
On the part of the cps and company, yes. Quite frankly, I am kind of shocked that the governir is talking about that being unconstitutional in a press conference.


Quoting oredeb:

 not so good,


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