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cub scouting (ot and a vent)

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Ok so I know this is kind of immature of me but I just can't help to feel annoyed. My son is a wolf scout and he has been in since he was a tiger. He and I work very hard to acheive his belt loops and pins or any other type of badge that he wants to earn. Some of these things have taken weeks for us to complete because I want him to do it properly and get the most out of it. This year a friend of mine had her son join the scouts. He is also a wolf and this is his first year. She constantly complains about how things are done in scouts. For instance, my son was chosen to be the color guard. Basically he gets to carry the Cub Scout Flag at this weeks pack meeting. My friend had a huge fit about it because it's not fair that her son wasn't chosen. Ok whatever I ignored her until she started being a jerk to my son about it. My son is proud of his acheivements because he works hard to do his best. He really loves the BSA program and excels in it. It annoys me to no end when she acts immature and childish because my son earns stuff. Another thing that annoys me is that I think she is cheating so her son earns belt loops and pins. She, for the whole month, kept talking about needing to something with her son so he'd earn something at the pack meet coming up. Well a day or so before the deadline to get the awards in; she was still talking about how she hadn't done anything with him yet. However 5 hours before the deadline her child magically ends up "earning" 4 belt loops, a pin, and the cyber badge. I know he earned the cyber badge because he and my son did it at my house. However the 4 belt loops and the pin' I'm not so sure of. Especially when a lot of these belt loops required a week or so of doing something everyday; like taking care of the pets for a week and then making a list of the tasks that you did to take care of them. I dunno... I know it shouldn't bother me because if they are cheating than atleast we aRe earning honestly so my son is getting more out of it than her son but I guess it annoys me because of all the time that I put into it to help my son succeed; not to mention the time that my son puts into it because he really wants to be all he can be. Sorry for typos and grammar errors. It's early here and I'm irritated.
by on Nov. 19, 2013 at 8:57 AM
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Jinx-Troublex3
by Jinx on Nov. 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM

 As I mentioned in the other post, this will change as they get into Webelos and the parents are no longer Akela. They will have to report to the Den leader and prove it to them.  This is getting them ready for Boy Scouts when they start getting signoffs from the Scoutmaster, older boys and Merit badge counselors.

There are times I,as Scoutmaster, or merit badge counselor sign my kid's book but it is rare and I try to avoid it if at all possible.

Quoting chotovec82:

Some of the achievements are done together as a den but some of them are individual. You don't have to show proof on somethings because it's a merit based program. If the Akela says that the kid did it than they did it. The Akela is the parent. Only a few things need proof to be shown for the child to get the award. It's very frustrating.


Quoting debramommyof4:

 That would be annoying.  In Girl Scouts the troop did the things together, or as you got older you had to bring stuff in, does boyscouts work differently?



 

Jinx - Homeschooling, Scouting & Karate butt-kicking  Mom to Life Scout Ian 1/982nd Class Sean 9/00, Junior GS Heidi 4/03. Wife to Joe & Alpha to German Shepherd Spazz.

Jinx-Troublex3
by Jinx on Nov. 19, 2013 at 11:39 AM

 Cub Scouts - 1st - 5th grade is designed as a family program. The parents are "Akela" or leader" for the first 3 years (Tiger, Wolf and Bear ranks) and a lot of awards are "do at home, show your family OR den..." So if a parent says they did something ,you can't DEMAND they prove it. We go with "A scout is trustworthy"  However, in MY dens, I always asked the m to share what they did withthe Den and we would have a share time the last 5-10 minutes of our meetings.

Once they hit 4-5th grade and are Webelos (stands for WE'll Be LOyal ScoutS) the Den leader becomes the only Akela to get them in the habit of showing their work to the leaders as they willbe required to do in Boy Scouts.

The Boy Scout program (6th grade - high school)  is run totally different than Cubs. They no longer automatically advance each year but move at their own pace, and must prove their proficiency either to the senior scouts or the leaders or merit badge counselors.

 

Quoting debramommyof4:

 That would be annoying.  In Girl Scouts the troop did the things together, or as you got older you had to bring stuff in, does boyscouts work differently?

 

 

Jinx - Homeschooling, Scouting & Karate butt-kicking  Mom to Life Scout Ian 1/982nd Class Sean 9/00, Junior GS Heidi 4/03. Wife to Joe & Alpha to German Shepherd Spazz.

usmom3
by BJ on Nov. 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM

 I would be POed too! Especially her treating my child poorly because he got to do something that her son was not chosen to do! If it where me I would at least call her on her disrespect of my child!

debramommyof4
by Silver Member on Nov. 19, 2013 at 4:44 PM
Thanks. I have only done or had girl scouts and want to put my son in when he is old enough. But unlike girl scouts that start at 5 I read they start at 7 so we have 3 years.

Quoting Jinx-Troublex3:

 Cub Scouts - 1st - 5th grade is designed as a family program. The parents are "Akela" or leader" for the first 3 years (Tiger, Wolf and Bear ranks) and a lot of awards are "do at home, show your family OR den..." So if a parent says they did something ,you can't DEMAND they prove it. We go with "A scout is trustworthy"  However, in MY dens, I always asked the m to share what they did withthe Den and we would have a share time the last 5-10 minutes of our meetings.


Once they hit 4-5th grade and are Webelos (stands for WE'll Be LOyal ScoutS) the Den leader becomes the only Akela to get them in the habit of showing their work to the leaders as they willbe required to do in Boy Scouts.


The Boy Scout program (6th grade - high school)  is run totally different than Cubs. They no longer automatically advance each year but move at their own pace, and must prove their proficiency either to the senior scouts or the leaders or merit badge counselors.


 


Quoting debramommyof4:


 That would be annoying.  In Girl Scouts the troop did the things together, or as you got older you had to bring stuff in, does boyscouts work differently?


 


 

Jinx-Troublex3
by Jinx on Nov. 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM

 You can start as early as 1st grade,, so even if your DS is 6 in 1st, he could start as a Tiger cub.

There is also a pilot program, called Lions, that starts in Kinder. It has not gone nationwide but they are letting some Packs try it. You may ask your local counic if any Packs are doing it. I know we have two units in our area with Lions.


Quoting debramommyof4:

Thanks. I have only done or had girl scouts and want to put my son in when he is old enough. But unlike girl scouts that start at 5 I read they start at 7 so we have 3 years.

Quoting Jinx-Troublex3:

 

 


 


 

Jinx - Homeschooling, Scouting & Karate butt-kicking  Mom to Life Scout Ian 1/982nd Class Sean 9/00, Junior GS Heidi 4/03. Wife to Joe & Alpha to German Shepherd Spazz.

debramommyof4
by Silver Member on Nov. 19, 2013 at 4:56 PM
I will look. I think he would like something for just him. He could start next school year since that is when public school would start k for him. He is doing k this year but at 4 and not being fully potty trained I do not think they would take him.

Quoting Jinx-Troublex3:

 You can start as early as 1st grade,, so even if your DS is 6 in 1st, he could start as a Tiger cub.


There is also a pilot program, called Lions, that starts in Kinder. It has not gone nationwide but they are letting some Packs try it. You may ask your local counic if any Packs are doing it. I know we have two units in our area with Lions.




Quoting debramommyof4:

Thanks. I have only done or had girl scouts and want to put my son in when he is old enough. But unlike girl scouts that start at 5 I read they start at 7 so we have 3 years.


Quoting Jinx-Troublex3:


 


 



 




 

Pukalani79
by Kristin on Nov. 19, 2013 at 9:07 PM

 That's hard and frustrating. Unfortunately that was one of the things that turned my son off of Scouting. :( We had several parents like that, and it was very frustrating for him to know he had to do the work and they just breezed through. At least your son is gaining the knowledge, while your "friend's" son is going to have a hard wake up call one day.

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