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I have to change some things, which I have been in the process of doing anyway.  But I came home a little late today from work and DH was really on edge.  He finally let it out that he was really annoyed with the kids playing video games too much, and he feels they aren't learning enough (they only sit and do school work for about 2-3 hours a day).

Here's the thing, I totally agree with him...but twice a week I leave at 11am and he sleeps until 3pm (he works nights, so he sleeps about 8:30am-3pm).  The other days I leave around 2:15 and he sleeps until 3.  The kids definitely take advantage of this and get a lot of screen time.  Then DH kind of takes it easy in the afternoons and the kids continue to play video games.  They are 10 and 11 so don't quite get the moderation thing, once they are in it they just lose track of time and could play all day.  (DH could also remind them to turn it off once he is up...so this is not just on me or the kids).

So we set a new rule, one hour a day of video games.  They can have other TV time if it's educational.  We haven't had strict screen time rules.  They know how to use a timer on their ipods, so they will need to set the timer and follow it.  They are really good kids and will follow this rule even without a parent watching (this is why I have felt we didn't need to be too strict here, since they really do follow the rules and the video games or a movie helps keep them entertained so DH can sleep).

We also have been stuck in history and DH is annoyed by that, he thinks that's one of the more important subjects...I am LOST in history.  So I sat down with him and the SOTW table of contents and we picked out what he feels is important in ancient history.  So I will try to get through these few things over the next few weeks, and then have him go through medieval history with me.  He thinks we have only been learning about Egypt since September and was annoyed the kids didn't know who Cleopatra was...so we are hitting Cleopatra tomorrow and then moving on to Ancient Greece.  Hopefully they remember something we learn so it doesn't seem like I am teaching them nothing :(  I am also thinking documentaries or something for when I am not home. 

Sorry this is so long, I don't want to send them back to PS.  I need them to take an interest in learning (this was another point from DH as well and I just had this conversation with them yesterday) and I need to find more to keep them learning even without a parent right there.  If anyone has any encouraging words or advice, please share :)


by on Nov. 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM
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TJandKarasMom
by Debbie on Nov. 20, 2013 at 8:19 AM
That's awful about the trip! That could have been such an amazing experience, I'm sorry they ruined it for you! I have never been anywhere amazing like that...I went to the Canadian side of Niagra Falls when I was 13, lol.

We are doing Cleopatra today, I am hoping at least DD will be interested. We did read one You Wouldn't Want to Be, I should definitely check the library for more, they did enjoy that one.


Quoting hwblyf:


Trebuchets and catapults are fun!

Also, have you guys looked at the You Wouldn't Want to Be series?  Those are fun.  I remember when I was a kid just devouring Cleopatra and Julius Caesar....oh my.....  When I went to Italy for a high school study trip, we had to study what was important to our chaperones.  We had an art teacher and a teacher whose heritage was Italian.  So I was doing it all "wrong" because I didn't like art, I'd rather spend my time looking at aqueducts or the Colliseum or whatnot than go to the frickin' art museums (I'm bitter...can you tell?), and I wanted to eat pasta and pizza.  So what could have been an amazing trip, was tainted because my teachers were not happy with me and forced me to spend my "free" time doing what they deemed appropriate.  :(


Quoting TJandKarasMom:

I want them to do more of that entertain yourselves and it turn into a project!  Our problem lately is that when they do something like that, they get stuck.  We built catapults a few weeks ago and in our research we came across a book and that is all DS talks about now.  He wants the book and just keeps asking for it.  And he just keeps working on building mini "weapons" and DD copies whatever he does, so if he works on that she does too.  It's not a bad thing sometimes, but he won't come up with any other ideas at all, he is just stuck on the mini weapons.  I wish they would work on something different, but this happens any time we get into something they are interested in, they just get stuck.



Quoting Precious333:

We do story of the world as well. I agree, finding additional things to read on it. Sotw also has activity books and tests.



Also, i dont let my kids play any games or watch tv until threy are done with their work, but like you, we only do 2 or so hours of school daily. So, somedays I will tell them to entertain themselves, which is what i told them today, and my son decided to make a rocketship out of cardboard boxes :)








TJandKarasMom
by Debbie on Nov. 20, 2013 at 8:20 AM
I am definitely looking into those games.

They do play minecraft sometimes, they are always telling me how educational it is, lol. I like the idea of the history games though, I'm going to look into those today, thank you!


Quoting usmom3:

 Have you thought about using there gaming to your advantage? Do they play Mine-craft it is very educational, we don't play it but I know of lots of homeschoolers that do! There are games called Ages of Empire that actually teach history like Alexander the Great, Joan of Arc & other great rulers & historical figures, the best part is they tell the real history in the game! Ages of empire can be gotten for a lot of differentconsoles & the computer! There is even a game on the PlayStation 2 based off of the Civil War made by the History channel!


TJandKarasMom
by Debbie on Nov. 20, 2013 at 8:27 AM
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Thanks, Kate. And thank your for the history pockets idea, those look fun.

DH did relax a bit last night, we didn't talk much more about it because I was doing my research to get ready for today. We will all be in the car together tonight, so I'm hoping the kids spew out something I've taught them, lol. I don't think he wants them back in ps. And I told him if he does, then he will put them back in because I'm not going to. We definitely have days that I spend most of the time yelling and DD doesn't do her work and DS rushes through everything so he can play video games....but I still think it's better than ps. I tried explaining that it's going to take time for us to figure out what works. We just started in September, so 2.5 months...I like taking it easy but he is afraid they will fall behind. I understand his concern, but I am just so happy to have them out of the ps environment. We just have to work on finding that balance.


Quoting TidewaterClan:

Before I forget - sorry your dh is talking about ps.  I hope he changes his mind soon so you can enjoy your teaching.  That's a lot of effort on your part, especially working too.


TJandKarasMom
by Debbie on Nov. 20, 2013 at 8:37 AM
Thank you for this.

I only work pt, about 18 hrs a week, but add in travel and I'm gone a bit more depending which client I'm going to (one is 20 min away the other is 45 min). DH does not help with schooling unless its life skills based, he does have them help with dinner or things like chopping/stacking wood and he has taught them how to keep the fire going. We did agree to this in the beginning, but he also agreed to help me decide *what* to teach because we should cover things we both think are important. I just have to get him into the conversation to go over it with me, then he gets frustrated when I don't know things (history is my weakest subject, I seriously don't know what happened to any history education I got in school) so he thinks I should learn so I can teach the kids, which I agree with-we can learn together and I love that, but my problem is I just don't even know what is pertinent to teach them. So I think he finally got that last night and I wrote down what he said we should cover, now I will find the books and resources to cover those things. This will work fine as long as he continues to tell me what is pertinent and what he's comfortable with them skipping.

So for the rest of ancients we are finishing Egypt with Cleopatra, then moving onto Ancient Greece (architecture, politics, mythology,moly pics, empire), covering Troy, and then Ancient Rome (architecture, empire, religion, aqueducts, the fall of Rome). Since you love this stuff, is there anything else you would add?


Quoting ladyofnight:

I wish I could help and give advice. I'm a SAHM, and my mom covers lessons for me when I have errands to do. The only thing I have discovered about Homeschooling is that you can do that when you're home of an evening, and when you're off work for your scheduled days off. As far as history goes, I agree with your DH that it is an important subject, but to have a cow because you hadn't covered Cleopatra yet is a bit much. When he's not working or sleeping or on his days off, does he help out and pitch in with the learning? I don't actually study ancient civilizations with my boys (ages 6 and 8) in school. That's something we do for fun outside of school times. We go a maximum of 4 hours a day, minimum of 2, and they do watch some documentaries or cartoons that were based off of events. then we discuss the differences between the animated versions and the text versions. I'm an ancient history and mythology geek, so that is our fun time. We draw pictures and look up artifacts on the internet together. Even at 10 and 11 your kids still need a little engagement with their learning. Try doing something like that, instead of expecting them to sit and do writing and reading all of the time. A lot of what my kids already know they learned mostly by being verbal not a lot of writing. They might actually enjoy it more as far as the history goes. good luck and hope you figure it all out. 



mem82
by Platinum Member on Nov. 20, 2013 at 8:47 AM
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This. 8)

Quoting Bleacheddecay:

(HUGS*

Anyone can nit pick what you are doing. I'm sorry your husband is doing this.

I personally think video games can be great for learning.

I think a relaxed approach often allows kids to learn more and quicker.

mem82
by Platinum Member on Nov. 20, 2013 at 8:51 AM
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I agree with Minecraft. 8)

Quoting usmom3:

 Have you thought about using there gaming to your advantage? Do they play Mine-craft it is very educational, we don't play it but I know of lots of homeschoolers that do! There are games called Ages of Empire that actually teach history like Alexander the Great, Joan of Arc & other great rulers & historical figures, the best part is they tell the real history in the game! Ages of empire can be gotten for a lot of differentconsoles & the computer! There is even a game on the PlayStation 2 based off of the Civil War made by the History channel!

debramommyof4
by Silver Member on Nov. 20, 2013 at 10:40 AM
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Oh I forgot yesterday have you seen horrible histories on Netflix? I think a 10 and 11 year old would like it. I know my 7 almost 8 year old loves it.
Jinx-Troublex3
by Jinx on Nov. 20, 2013 at 10:58 AM
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SOTW...the Charter school gave us the book in cd version as well as ghe regular text. DD listens to it on the laptop as she does the coloring page and then does tje worksheet and map while we discuss the lesson. Once a week, we do a bigger project (like making a pyramid...etc.)
bluerooffarm
by Gold Member on Nov. 20, 2013 at 11:07 AM
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 I second the suggestion of moving forward in history!!  The ancients seem to be a much less advanced book than the middle ages.  My oldest (8yo reading on an 8th grade level) gets very bored if we slip back into the ancients for anything.

usmom3
by BJ on Nov. 20, 2013 at 11:48 AM

 Your welcome!

Quoting TJandKarasMom:

I am definitely looking into those games.

They do play minecraft sometimes, they are always telling me how educational it is, lol. I like the idea of the history games though, I'm going to look into those today, thank you!


Quoting usmom3:

 Have you thought about using there gaming to your advantage? Do they play Mine-craft it is very educational, we don't play it but I know of lots of homeschoolers that do! There are games called Ages of Empire that actually teach history like Alexander the Great, Joan of Arc & other great rulers & historical figures, the best part is they tell the real history in the game! Ages of empire can be gotten for a lot of differentconsoles & the computer! There is even a game on the PlayStation 2 based off of the Civil War made by the History channel!


 

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