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How much regulation should homeschooling have?

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Question: Do you agree that homeschooling should be regulated?

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Yes, there should be checks to make sure kids don't fall through the cracks.

No. I don't agree at all. I don't want the government involved in my child's education.


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His father, Clarence Powell, defends the home-school education, that Josh and his 11 siblings received, and that he has a right to educate his children anyway he sees fit without the government interfering. And in that respect, he's correct: According to Virginia state law, parents who have a religious objection, can opt to not only home-school their children but to do so without any government oversight, meaning there is no mandatory curriculum and no checks placed on the family to ensure the children are learning at an appropriate level.

by on Nov. 21, 2013 at 12:55 PM
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paganbaby
by Silver Member on Nov. 21, 2013 at 3:24 PM

That is horrifying!

Quoting romacox:

I agree that the government run public school system speaks loudly and clearly as to why we do not want government regulation in the home school environment...it is a disaster, and it abuses many children by trying to force them into a "one size fits all approach."  The answer is really very simple:  The Constitution says no government interference  unless a crime is committed ( someone is harmed.).  If our government was following the Constitution, BP would have been fully liable to everyone it harmed in the Gulf oil spill, and government would not have been the middle man protecting BP.  Government would have been the judicial part to make sure the law was followed.

Unfortunately few people know what the Constitution says, and are fooled into believing that things are very complicated.  Government is now so dysfunctional because it is running off of two polar opposite systems The Constitution, and socialism (the NDAA 2012 which gives any president the power to indefinitely  detain you and your children with out a  warrant , without an a trial, without a judge, and without an attorney).


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kajira
by Member on Nov. 21, 2013 at 3:25 PM

I frankly think that providing special testing to parents who want it, and it not being mandatory is the right way to go.

I would absolutely want my daughter tested when/if I homeschool her every few years, but I know my special needs child can't do the testing. I would have to spend years teaching him how to take a test, when my goal is life skills and enough basic education so he could have in-dependant living skills.

Different children and needing different rules based on the family and child are the reason I don't think there should be a "one size fits all" approach and why public school doesn't work for us.

I'm very anti government. And it's not because I'm afraid of them, its because a one size approach just doesn't work for the majority, even if they statically says it does.

The evidence is proven over time, with our kids failing tests, them only teaching for testing scores - and life skills and hands on education falling to the way side due to overcrowded classrooms with a one size fits all approach.

It just doesn't work.

paganbaby
by Silver Member on Nov. 21, 2013 at 3:27 PM
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As bad as I feel for those kids, I wouldn't want the laws to change because of it. If nothing else they can always continue their education on their own by taking classes in college or just hitting the library.

Quoting TidewaterClan:

That is a doozy of a question!  I don't want to show the government all of the wonderful things we're accomplishing this year (though I would love to brag how much more they're learning than the did in ps - evil laugh!).  

I have been to a few local hs events and I've seen two children who definitely aren't getting the education they need to succeed.  Honestly, I hope those types don't end up causing the rest of us to go through extreme amounts of regulation in the future.


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paganbaby
by Silver Member on Nov. 21, 2013 at 3:28 PM
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I think that sounds like a fine idea and totally agree with the rest.

Quoting kajira:

I frankly think that providing special testing to parents who want it, and it not being mandatory is the right way to go.

I would absolutely want my daughter tested when/if I homeschool her every few years, but I know my special needs child can't do the testing. I would have to spend years teaching him how to take a test, when my goal is life skills and enough basic education so he could have in-dependant living skills.

Different children and needing different rules based on the family and child are the reason I don't think there should be a "one size fits all" approach and why public school doesn't work for us.

I'm very anti government. And it's not because I'm afraid of them, its because a one size approach just doesn't work for the majority, even if they statically says it does.

The evidence is proven over time, with our kids failing tests, them only teaching for testing scores - and life skills and hands on education falling to the way side due to overcrowded classrooms with a one size fits all approach.

It just doesn't work.


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petie1104
by on Nov. 21, 2013 at 3:28 PM
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Quoting paganbaby:

But there are some who say, without the governments involvement, the children will suffer.

Quoting petie1104:I just feel that the more power we give the government the fewer rights we have. So I think they need to stay out of it.





Yes they say that but kids in schools suffer as well, so the question is, would giving up the rights of the majority actually save kids or just create more secrecy in those that choose to abuse and neglect their children. The fact is, more regularion isn't going to catch these xases because they will just find ways to be more secretive about it.
kirbymom
by Sonja on Nov. 21, 2013 at 3:29 PM
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But aren't children suffering now? Aren't we still following the suggestions(mandates) of our more qualified government?

Quoting paganbaby:

But there are some who say, without the governments involvement, the children will suffer.

Quoting petie1104:I just feel that the more power we give the government the fewer rights we have. So I think they need to stay out of it.


paganbaby
by Silver Member on Nov. 21, 2013 at 3:30 PM


Quoting petie1104:

Quoting paganbaby:

But there are some who say, without the governments involvement, the children will suffer.

Quoting petie1104:I just feel that the more power we give the government the fewer rights we have. So I think they need to stay out of it.





Yes they say that but kids in schools suffer as well, so the question is, would giving up the rights of the majority actually save kids or just create more secrecy in those that choose to abuse and neglect their children. The fact is, more regularion isn't going to catch these xases because they will just find ways to be more secretive about it.

You make excelent points! I can't say I disagree.

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paganbaby
by Silver Member on Nov. 21, 2013 at 3:31 PM
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True. I look at my and myself son as prime examples.

Quoting kirbymom:

But aren't children suffering now? Aren't we still following the suggestions(mandates) of our more qualified government?

Quoting paganbaby:

But there are some who say, without the governments involvement, the children will suffer.

Quoting petie1104:I just feel that the more power we give the government the fewer rights we have. So I think they need to stay out of it.



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kajira
by Member on Nov. 21, 2013 at 3:33 PM
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Reality - I was bullied by more teachers in school than I was other kids.

I was a special needs child - I was in special ed, and I never got an appropriate education because they couldn't figure out how to teach me. I am autistic and they couldn't stop long enough in a school year to figure stuff out. I was very, very behind until I was self-taught in high school. I dropped out, self educated, got my GED and put myself in college.

Public education never provided me with a single piece of knowledge that I could use, and I do think it works for some families and kids, but I also see so many families struggle with teaching methods not working, or kids falling behind and struggling to catch them up, or having issues with a teacher, or student in a way that prevents an appropriate education.

Public school really needs to be completely revamped, including if they value our children and their future, smaller classroom settings, with more then one way to teach the same subject so they can match children up with their learning style.

In reality, how they acquire the information and be able to use it later, doesn't really matter as long as they learn it....

I have some very strong views on the public system and how they fail our children, especially intelligent, but special needs children who need an alterantive learning environment.

I have said this 1000x, real life is not like school. I've never as an adult, sat in a classroom dealing with the sensory issues, scraping chairs, lights humming, in any other environment.

That environment really is unique to school and there are 1000 different ways to learn the same information OR social skills.

Quoting petie1104:

Quoting paganbaby:

But there are some who say, without the governments involvement, the children will suffer.

Quoting petie1104:I just feel that the more power we give the government the fewer rights we have. So I think they need to stay out of it.





Yes they say that but kids in schools suffer as well, so the question is, would giving up the rights of the majority actually save kids or just create more secrecy in those that choose to abuse and neglect their children. The fact is, more regularion isn't going to catch these xases because they will just find ways to be more secretive about it.


kirbymom
by Sonja on Nov. 21, 2013 at 3:50 PM
What are we learning in a PS setting that can not be learned at home or any other way besides the PS?
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