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New Bill that Ohio HSers need to be aware of. HUGE UPDATE! It's been withdrawn!!!

There is a Bill in the Ohio Senate that opens homeschoolers(including those using web-based schools) up to interviews, home visits, monitering, and more by JFS.

Any family who has had alleggations of abuse (doesn't matter if the allegations weren't substantiated.) will not be allowed to Homeschool. This will make it possible for those who do not agree with our choices to have power against us.

Here is the Bill:

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=130_SB_248

UPDATE:It was posted on the Teddy's Law Facebook page that the Bill is being withdrawn. There hasn't been an official statement released yet.


Quote:https://www.facebook.com/Teddyslaw01

I will be posting a statement from senator Capri Cafaro on our withdrawing senate bill 248. I am sorry everything has become this way. We will continue our fight against child abuse. At this time Teddy's Law is done responding to questions and comments. And anyone who supports Teddy's Law I would urge the same.

I would like to apologize to Teddy for all of this. Our vision was to protect children from abuse and carry on his memory. This was about him and was never intended to be political. 

Thanks for your understanding. 

Shawn Tedesco and the Teddy Law Team

It's official! The bill has been withdrawn:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Senator-Capri-S-Cafaro/279952678729649


by on Dec. 17, 2013 at 2:39 PM
Replies (31-40):
mrs.hartman12
by Member on Dec. 19, 2013 at 11:18 AM

CPS is covering their tracks. They had been receiving reports BEFORE the parents pulled their child out of school. But instead of taking the blame, they are blaming homeschooling. 

Quoting PurpleCupcake:

Cafaro is an effing moron. Who does she suppose pays for all that "intervention"?

How many times has cps proven themselves as morons. 

So morons + a moron. 

And they name it "Teddys Bill".....more like "cafaro needs attention bill".

Under her logic I couldn't homeschool because my ex called cps on me when he was arrested and ordered to pay child support... 

A cps report is not a conviction. 


bluerooffarm
by Gold Member on Dec. 19, 2013 at 11:27 AM
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Absolutely!  But even beyond the intrusion into personal rights this is a crazy law.  The death of that boy, while tragic and occurring in a "homeschooling" household, was not a result of homeschooling.  It had already been reported to child services.  They are too swamped to follow up on these true cases.  So the answer to this politician is to give them a much, much, much bigger caseload?  That is insane!  

Quoting TidewaterClan:

Yep, and not just one interview to see if we can hs in the first place, but two additional checkups.  

I think it's in direct violation of our 5th Amendment.  We're testifying and being witnesses against ourselves, when we haven't even commited a crime: 

Fifth Amendment - U.S. Constitution

Fifth Amendment - Rights of Persons

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

It sounded as though you would need to speak to a social worker and get permission to homeschool.  That just seems like such a violation of rights all around.

Quoting TidewaterClan:

 The wording of the bill is so ambiguous it seems like anything could, including the social worker being in a bad mood.  Holy cow.  

Quoting bluerooffarm:

I sit next door in Pennsylvania with bated breath.  I'm sure if Ohio does this stupid thing, PA will try to follow.  I had CPS called along with the truancy officer when the public school did not want to acknowledge our affidavit, so I wonder if it would affect our homeschooling?

 




TidewaterClan
by on Dec. 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM
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That's what my husband said.  Plus Teddy was "homeschooled" for five years, with numerous reports from neighbors filed to cps who STILL didn't pull him out.  It doesn't make any sense to further burden them and give them more power when they didn't handle this correctly in the first place.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

Absolutely!  But even beyond the intrusion into personal rights this is a crazy law.  The death of that boy, while tragic and occurring in a "homeschooling" household, was not a result of homeschooling.  It had already been reported to child services.  They are too swamped to follow up on these true cases.  So the answer to this politician is to give them a much, much, much bigger caseload?  That is insane!  

Quoting TidewaterClan:

Yep, and not just one interview to see if we can hs in the first place, but two additional checkups.  

I think it's in direct violation of our 5th Amendment.  We're testifying and being witnesses against ourselves, when we haven't even commited a crime: 

Fifth Amendment - U.S. Constitution



Fifth Amendment - Rights of Persons

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

It sounded as though you would need to speak to a social worker and get permission to homeschool.  That just seems like such a violation of rights all around.

Quoting TidewaterClan:

 The wording of the bill is so ambiguous it seems like anything could, including the social worker being in a bad mood.  Holy cow.  

Quoting bluerooffarm:

I sit next door in Pennsylvania with bated breath.  I'm sure if Ohio does this stupid thing, PA will try to follow.  I had CPS called along with the truancy officer when the public school did not want to acknowledge our affidavit, so I wonder if it would affect our homeschooling?

 





bluerooffarm
by Gold Member on Dec. 19, 2013 at 11:49 AM
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I totally agree!

Quoting TidewaterClan:

That's what my husband said.  Plus Teddy was "homeschooled" for five years, with numerous reports from neighbors filed to cps who STILL didn't pull him out.  It doesn't make any sense to further burden them and give them more power when they didn't handle this correctly in the first place.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

Absolutely!  But even beyond the intrusion into personal rights this is a crazy law.  The death of that boy, while tragic and occurring in a "homeschooling" household, was not a result of homeschooling.  It had already been reported to child services.  They are too swamped to follow up on these true cases.  So the answer to this politician is to give them a much, much, much bigger caseload?  That is insane!  

Quoting TidewaterClan:

Yep, and not just one interview to see if we can hs in the first place, but two additional checkups.  

I think it's in direct violation of our 5th Amendment.  We're testifying and being witnesses against ourselves, when we haven't even commited a crime: 

Fifth Amendment - U.S. Constitution



Fifth Amendment - Rights of Persons

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

It sounded as though you would need to speak to a social worker and get permission to homeschool.  That just seems like such a violation of rights all around.

Quoting TidewaterClan:

 The wording of the bill is so ambiguous it seems like anything could, including the social worker being in a bad mood.  Holy cow.  

Quoting bluerooffarm:

I sit next door in Pennsylvania with bated breath.  I'm sure if Ohio does this stupid thing, PA will try to follow.  I had CPS called along with the truancy officer when the public school did not want to acknowledge our affidavit, so I wonder if it would affect our homeschooling?

 






emerelaino
by New Member on Dec. 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM

The "logic" behind this bill is so scary and irrational.  I am certain that the next child that is (so sadly) abused by someone and happens to be a PS student will not result in a major overhaul and potential law opposed to public schools.

redhead-bedhead
by Bronze Member on Dec. 19, 2013 at 1:15 PM
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One of the women in my hs group's friend wrote this:http://www.scribd.com/doc/192300040/Letter-Against-S-B-248

It is very well written.

usmom3
by BJ on Dec. 19, 2013 at 1:24 PM

 Sadly you are very right! But that is because the government dose not want us to take our children education in to our own hands because we might just teach them to think critical & question everything!

Quoting emerelaino:

The "logic" behind this bill is so scary and irrational.  I am certain that the next child that is (so sadly) abused by someone and happens to be a PS student will not result in a major overhaul and potential law opposed to public schools.

 

usmom3
by BJ on Dec. 19, 2013 at 1:30 PM
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Quoting redhead-bedhead:

One of the women in my hs group's friend wrote this:http://www.scribd.com/doc/192300040/Letter-Against-S-B-248

It is very well written.

 It is very well written & I hope it gets the attention of who it was written to!

TidewaterClan
by on Dec. 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM
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I agree.  That's an excellent list of past court cases and references too.  

Quoting usmom3:

 

Quoting redhead-bedhead:

One of the women in my hs group's friend wrote this:http://www.scribd.com/doc/192300040/Letter-Against-S-B-248

It is very well written.

 It is very well written & I hope it gets the attention of who it was written to!


redhead-bedhead
by Bronze Member on Dec. 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Bump!

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