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Holy crap, I think I'm an unschooler! How did that happen??

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It came to me in a two part epiphany.

First I was surfing the net and came across a blog called Unschooling till it hurts. Basically she saying that unschooling isn't black or white, all or nothing. It just means you don't force any type of education on your kids. Compromise, suggest, but not force. That got my attention. I've tried unschooling in the past with ds but it was a flop. Now I'm wondering if I just took too far a didn't try for more balance.

Then later while dh was watching a Japanese show with subtitles, I heard ds talking. He was reading them! Not all of them, they were going too fast, but quite a few. That brought me back to when he's written notes for fun or to get out of trouble,lol.

ThenlightbulbI didn't teach him how to walk or talk. I didn't teach him how to ride a bike or draw a picture. I gave him the tools and lots of encouragement but in the end he learned because he wanted too. He had the desire too. How much would it have sucked if I gave him formal lessons on how to speak properly or walk with grace?

So then I took a hard look at our HS day. Casually I questioned ds on what he liked and didn't like about school. He LOVES watching science shows with me in the morning (we pause A LOT to discuss what's going on), he likes it when I read to him from Magic tree house, he likes when I read him Life of Fred stories, he likes when I read him science books (Cell Defenders is his hands down favorite right now) He likes telling me stories which I write down in his reading journal, and cool facts for his science journal that he dictates to me also. He likes doing science experiments and drawing pictures. And last but not least, he likes writing Audi and his friends notes. Not everyday day though.

Anyone else notice a trend here? lol

Two big things he does not like is having to write and reading books. I looked at that and thought, why do it then? What would happen if I stopped requiring him to read and write? I'm darn near an unschooler anyway. Why not just let that last bit go and trust that he'll learn in his own time?

by on Dec. 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM
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RockEducation
by on Jan. 4, 2014 at 2:57 PM
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 popcorn

Quoting paganbaby:

Lmao! *Sing song voice* Stalker...

Quoting RockEducation:

 It's been fun, paganDRAMAbaby. I would think your DD wouldn't need to go to public school for drama, as you seem to have the market cornered on it.

 I'm surprised that you made it out of The Lounge (with 500 interesting posts/replys that you had some part in) and Current Events & Hot Topics (with another 500 interesting posts/replys) groups to come in to this group. Since I know that you're a very busy homeschooling mom.  (said with extreme sarcasm)

I've got to go get lessons ready for Monday when we resume classes.

Like I said before, I wish your DD the best.

Quoting paganbaby:

Just so you know, I never meant for you to go crazy.

Quoting RockEducation:

 No, you didn't.going crazy

Quoting paganbaby:

I think I broke you... I'm so sorry!

Quoting RockEducation:

 going crazy

Quoting paganbaby:

You're quoting me with nonsense and I'm the crazy one? Lmao!

Quoting RockEducation:

 Right back at YOU.going crazy

Quoting paganbaby:

going crazy

Quoting RockEducation:

 Well, of course she was. Just keep talking...............

Quoting paganbaby:

That's not why she wasn't doing school.

Okay? She wasn't. She was De-schooling at the time. What's your point?

Quoting RockEducation:

 Thank-YOU for stating THIS. Highlighted in green.

 

 


 


 


 


 


 

"The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."---Winston Churchill


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celtic77dragon
by Member on Jan. 4, 2014 at 3:33 PM
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ETA:

Court action does not just get threatened without warnings (letters, phone calls, etc.). It is YOUR responsibility to get YOUR children to school and on time - not dds friends dad.

On Sept 9 (only a month after school started) you stated in the update that you would continue with public school until the end of Dec BUT if you had to go to court for attendance issues, then you would pull your daughter out of school that day. By Sept 17 you pulled her out. 

One month of school and your dd already had a severe enough attendance issue that they were threatening court action. And you wonder why I count back to the end of May as how long it has been since your dd did any real schooling? 

AFTER your dd had already screwed off for half a year while in a cyber school and had to be retained a grade because of it.   

We all know the differences between unschooling and deschooling.  You called it unschooling repeatedly and even had a plan listed.  Only now are you calling it deschooling.  

YOUR WORDS PAGAN! 

If I am immature by calling you out on your irresponsibility to have your child educated - and then you calling it homeschooling ...  then so be it. 



I had to delete my original post that you (PB) were responding to because of character limits. 



 And you look kinda stalkery...

I read your posts here in this group. I don't care if that looks like I "stalked" you.

 Not true. I pulled her out for 4 months and she did plenty.

She has had off in June, July, Oct, 1/2 of Sept, Nov and Dec off. FIVE AND A HALF months. - She missed so many days in August and half of Sept  to warrant the school to want to take you to court. So yeah, I count it all as SEVEN MONTHS!

 I think you're confused here. This is the first time I ever pulled her out of public school. She went to an alternative public school for 7th grade, did miserably, and was held back (my choice) when I put her back in a traditional school.

You are correct! I double checked this and your daughter did a cyber school - but did NOT do ANY of the work. You did it for half of the year. Then you put her back in public school and she had to be retained a grade because of it. 

So basically, your daughter will never be made to do school by you. It doesn't matter if it is public school, cyber school, or homeschooling. You have never held her accountable. 

You do not see a pattern here at all??? 

 The school was threatening court action because your 13yr old missed so much school this year already (back in September!). 

That is true.

That is irresponsible parenting and shows the same pattern that I am seeing with your "homeschooling". 

Yes, she likes the social life of public school.

At least she has classes to attend 

And we did.

And she is still depressed. When will it be time to see a dr about meds? Will there ever be a time?  

 Not again. This is her first time homeschooling.for 7mths. 7 months?? September to January is only 4 months.

Well we are counting differently - as stated up above. I am counting the summer to mark the accurate amount of time that she has had to do nothing. 

And? Mad-libs aside, she wasn't ready for schooling yet. She needed time to de-school not unschool. Big Difference.

YOU SAID you were homeschooling the time of the curriculum. THEN you added an update saying it didnt work and that you would unschool instead!

This post here that we are in, is the first I have read you calling it deschooling - and this post that I am linking, you call it unschooling. So which is it?? 

And??? The girl said she was going to get up at like 5am so she could be out the door to run around by 10am. Where is a 13yr old running all around from 8am until her curfew which I believe was 9:30p 

She didn't have to do school in those 5hrs. You said she could do whatever she wanted as long as it wasnt social media.

 Lmao! Not even close. She wanted to go back because she missed the drama of school. She's never cared about her grades.

You wrote it in your posts (there were a few where you mentioned it):


Another thing, she's worried that she might miss out on some vital learning needed for high school that won't be taught in homeschool. (We were only going for 8th grade right now) 

dd is more insistent than ever about wanting to go to a "real" high school.

I'm completely against it. She's already so behind as it is and there's no way she could keep pace in a high school setting.

Nope. My 7 year old reads to me every night. My oldest reads fan fiction like it's going out of style and enjoys writing her own. My 9yo son doesn't really care for reading books so we get his reading in other ways.

Nothing :-( I can't get my younger two to read for fun at all. They'd rather watch T.V. in their spare time. My oldest dd is reading a Harry Styles fan fiction though. I'll take what I can get,lol.

Math consists of shopping, cooking, no shooting but that could be interesting, visiting the graveyard, and reading Life of Fred. We do other basic math through out the day as it comes up also.And no, not exactly joking. He doesn't like worksheets and prefers to do the math in his head.

Autistic children CAN display amazing abilities. Is your family working with a specialist at all? It would be HUGELY beneficial for him. 

That's not why she wasn't doing school.

It is what was said to me in THIS post! - by people speaking on your behalf. I didn't see you refute and I believe that you liked that reply by Blue.  

Ever think maybe that's why my son is so far behind? Public school is not for every child

Well, I found one post saying you took your son out of school about 2yrs ago and another one saying he had all F's last year in school. So I am not sure that this was all on the school. 

You show no pattern of ever having the kids attend school or homeschool - so, maybe he missed a lot of school like your dd, maybe homework was not being completed, maybe it was that the school sucked... I don't know. I know what my educated guess would be, based on what I know so far.

I am not anti public school but I agree that it is not for everyone. 

That's an interesting stereotype,lol. I happen to think all kids are very intelligent but if you judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree, you'd think it was stupid. My son has his strengths and weaknesses like every other child.

Well, it is not stereotype. It is well documented. Also, not ALL children are created equal. I agree that everyone has strengths and weaknesses - however, I do not think they were all *fairly* distributed amongst us all. 

He wasn't able to attend but that's a whole nother post.

He wasnt able to attend school?

Kids with Autism need structure and I am glad that he at least had enough sense to put himself on one.  *Snort*

I am never snarky to people paganbaby, but some of the stuff I have read in this homeschooling group for the past 7mths has just sat REALLY uncomfortablly with me and I can't believe people encourage this stuff. NO WHERE ELSE WOULD THEY!!! You would get ripped apart for this. Far worse than me just pointing out what you have said.   

Academics isn't the only thing to consider. Her mental health is of far more importance to me.

YES IT IS IMPORTANT. But it is NOT the only thing either. If you can not be a Mom AND a Teacher, then send her back to school. Falling further behind academically is NEVER going to help her mental health. By the way, you are contradicting what you just said - that she isnt that depressed at all.  

You see what you want to see and fill in the rest.

No, there IS a clear pattern of being irresponsible and wishy washy. A read through of all of your posts in chronological order quickly gives evidence to that. However, we do not use the same logic and so I understand that you see things differently. 

 And I and am even more pro-keep the government out of my home :-)

Oh, I bet you are, lol. 



celtic77dragon
by Member on Jan. 4, 2014 at 3:44 PM
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You do realize that you only have to put in a screen name in the search box right? It takes like 5seconds. I know I for one do not have time to read all of your posts on CM - they are extensive!!! I did however, read the ones that pertained to this group. If that makes people stalkers... whatever. Then there are a LOT of stalkers on here!!! 

Quoting paganbaby:

Lmao! *Sing song voice* Stalker...

Quoting RockEducation:

 It's been fun, paganDRAMAbaby. I would think your DD wouldn't need to go to public school for drama, as you seem to have the market cornered on it.

 I'm surprised that you made it out of The Lounge (with 500 interesting posts/replys that you had some part in) and Current Events & Hot Topics (with another 500 interesting posts/replys) groups to come in to this group. Since I know that you're a very busy homeschooling mom.  (said with extreme sarcasm)

I've got to go get lessons ready for Monday when we resume classes.

Like I said before, I wish your DD the best.

Quoting paganbaby:

Just so you know, I never meant for you to go crazy.

Quoting RockEducation:

 No, you didn't.going crazy

Quoting paganbaby:

I think I broke you... I'm so sorry!

Quoting RockEducation:

 going crazy

Quoting paganbaby:

You're quoting me with nonsense and I'm the crazy one? Lmao!

Quoting RockEducation:

 Right back at YOU.going crazy

Quoting paganbaby:

going crazy

Quoting RockEducation:

 Well, of course she was. Just keep talking...............

Quoting paganbaby:

That's not why she wasn't doing school.

Okay? She wasn't. She was De-schooling at the time. What's your point?

Quoting RockEducation:

 Thank-YOU for stating THIS. Highlighted in green.

 

 


 


 


 


 



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