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EDIT- schooling at home BUT STILL IN PUBLIC SCHOOL- my 2nd grader

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1. WE ARE STILL IN PUBLIC SCHOOL AS K12 IS PUBLIC SCHOOL, WE JUST DO EVERYTHING AT HOME.

2. YES she can still have an IEP

3. She has severe anxiety and panic attacks being close to other kids during testing. She cannot handle competitions at this time either

4. We live in OR



We are doing K12 for the rest if this year (yes I know it's still technically public school). My kinder is staying in traditional school for now (we will start next school year).
The school basically said they have no intention of testing her for an IEP (which I requested 5 months ago) and since they refuse to let me sign for consent there is nothing legally I can do except pull her out. But with k12 there is no middle man for IEP testing (though I'm hoping she won't need it as it would be for environmental changes due to anxiety).
Has anyone does K12 with an IEP?
My state requires state testing in 1st, 3rd, 5th, 8th and 10th grade, anyone homeschool and have experience with state testing?

Thanks!
by on Jan. 8, 2014 at 4:00 PM
Replies (11-20):
KickButtMama
by Shannon on Jan. 11, 2014 at 10:38 AM

My advice is to look for a support group/yahoo group in your state/district. I had never heard of an IEP requiring more evaluation before, but as I stated our state is lax in evaluations. If you join a group in your area you can get first hand knowledge from those familiar with the laws in your area.

celtic77dragon
by Member on Jan. 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM

I apologize to the OP for getting off topic, but I know Blue is in the same state as me and I want to ask her about what she is saying here.

Blue, I am supposed to have my son tested this year and this is the one thing I just have no clue on how this is done. I thought it was the PSSA's that they needed tested with in grades 3,5,8. Am I incorrect on the PSSA part? I assumed that I needed to contact the public school to get this testing done. I keep forgetting to call them (gr!), so I don't know if they already did the state tests for this year. Are you saying that there are other options? 

Quoting bluerooffarm:

My state requires testing.  We can either choose to have our kids take the public school tests at the local public school OR we can choose from a list of approved tests and have the test administered somewhere else.  My son has too much history with the PS, so we drove an hour and took the Terra Nova test at a homeschool group.  It cost $35 for the test.  WE got there early and they needed someone to administer the 4th grade test (because it's not one of the necessary years, there was only 1 child taking it for fun) and I volunteered.  They paid me $30 to administer it.


celtic77dragon
by Member on Jan. 11, 2014 at 11:39 AM

ADHD is not enough for your child to get an IEP in Pa. My oldest dd was diagnosised with ADHD when in public school and never had an IEP. In fact, the public school is the place that recognized and diagnosised it. A private counselor later confirmed this and gave us tips on how to handle it. 

My son who was not school age at the time was SUPER hyper active and couldn't even sleep a full 8hrs and I assumed he had ADHD. So I had him tested at the same time. Turns out that he didn't fit the criteria enough. Sure enough, with age, his energy level has decreased quite a bit. He has the most focus of all of my kids. However, the counselor did give us ADHD related tips for his energy levels. 

Quoting bluerooffarm:


As for IEPs....I would carefully read the state laws about IEPs and homeschooling.  In my state if your child has an IEP in a public school, you would need to prove that you are following the IEP or have plans set to follow the IEP in order to "get permission" to homeschool.  I have a child that I am sure is ADHD, but I worry about getting him tested just so that law does not apply to us.  If you felt that you could have a specialist evaluate your child and then collaborate with her for a plan of action without involving the PS system, that would be my recommendation.

My kids did K12 last year and we hated it so badly that I pulled them out in the middle of the year.  Homeschooling (as daunting as it was to me) was much easier than having K12 oversee our education.


celtic77dragon
by Member on Jan. 11, 2014 at 11:48 AM

You have to find someone in your area to help you with these questions. Every state is different about IEPs and state testing - even if they use K12. 

Ask K12 and check out yahoo groups. 

Pukalani79
by Kristin on Jan. 11, 2014 at 12:01 PM

 Where in Oregon are you?  I'm in Klamath Falls.  First, what are you trying to gain by getting an IEP? Are you looking for extra time on work, or extra considerations during the testing? Ask your daughter's K12 teacher about what steps you should take, or if they don't know ask who you should contact to get that information.  My youngest has some health problems and we were looking to get extra help with reading and possibly speech.  I was also concerned about her with the State tests.  We were able to go the the public school we are zoned for and set up some evaluations through them.  That might be something available to you, I don't know. 

As far as the testing goes.  K12 should have that information, but if not - check out this website.  http://www.ode.state.or.us/search/page/?=1222 I think this will take you to the sample tests, but you can navigate the site from there. It should have information about when and where to take the tests as well as how to register, etc.  My kids go to a charter school, so that's taken care of for us.  Don't stress over the tests though. I think that you have to be below the bottom 15% before there's a problem. Even then, it's more about finding ways to help "catch up."

Definitely look for homeschooling groups in your area.  The advice and the support you can gain from those groups can be invaluable.

bluerooffarm
by Gold Member on Jan. 11, 2014 at 12:30 PM

You do not have to use the PSSAs.  You can use either the PSSAs, the California Acheivment tests, the Stanford acheivment tests, The Iowa test of basic skills, the Peabodies, the Terra Novas, the Woodcock Johnsons revised (III), the Metropolitans, or the CTPIV.  In PA the schools MUST administer the PSSAs for free, but you can have the other tests administered on your own.  If you are a member of a co-op, the co-op can higher a teacher to administer any of those tests.  PA Homeschoolers offer the Terra Novas at a bunch of locations for $35, but that is fall testing, and I'm not sure if they offer any spring testing.  My 3rd grader got his test results back in November.

For most people probably the PSSAs are best because they are free, but Zave comments on how he "hates that place" every time we drive past the local PS. 

Quoting celtic77dragon:

I apologize to the OP for getting off topic, but I know Blue is in the same state as me and I want to ask her about what she is saying here.

Blue, I am supposed to have my son tested this year and this is the one thing I just have no clue on how this is done. I thought it was the PSSA's that they needed tested with in grades 3,5,8. Am I incorrect on the PSSA part? I assumed that I needed to contact the public school to get this testing done. I keep forgetting to call them (gr!), so I don't know if they already did the state tests for this year. Are you saying that there are other options? 

Quoting bluerooffarm:

My state requires testing.  We can either choose to have our kids take the public school tests at the local public school OR we can choose from a list of approved tests and have the test administered somewhere else.  My son has too much history with the PS, so we drove an hour and took the Terra Nova test at a homeschool group.  It cost $35 for the test.  WE got there early and they needed someone to administer the 4th grade test (because it's not one of the necessary years, there was only 1 child taking it for fun) and I volunteered.  They paid me $30 to administer it.



bluerooffarm
by Gold Member on Jan. 11, 2014 at 12:43 PM

That's not true.  ADHD is a recognized disability in the US Dept of Ed and all states must provide certain services for it if they are deemed necessary by either the school, a healthcare professional, or the parents.   And Pennsylvania does recognize it: http://drnpa.org/File/publications/education-services-for-children-with-add-adhd.pdf

Quoting celtic77dragon:

ADHD is not enough for your child to get an IEP in Pa. My oldest dd was diagnosised with ADHD when in public school and never had an IEP. In fact, the public school is the place that recognized and diagnosised it. A private counselor later confirmed this and gave us tips on how to handle it. 

My son who was not school age at the time was SUPER hyper active and couldn't even sleep a full 8hrs and I assumed he had ADHD. So I had him tested at the same time. Turns out that he didn't fit the criteria enough. Sure enough, with age, his energy level has decreased quite a bit. He has the most focus of all of my kids. However, the counselor did give us ADHD related tips for his energy levels. 

Quoting bluerooffarm:


As for IEPs....I would carefully read the state laws about IEPs and homeschooling.  In my state if your child has an IEP in a public school, you would need to prove that you are following the IEP or have plans set to follow the IEP in order to "get permission" to homeschool.  I have a child that I am sure is ADHD, but I worry about getting him tested just so that law does not apply to us.  If you felt that you could have a specialist evaluate your child and then collaborate with her for a plan of action without involving the PS system, that would be my recommendation.

My kids did K12 last year and we hated it so badly that I pulled them out in the middle of the year.  Homeschooling (as daunting as it was to me) was much easier than having K12 oversee our education.



celtic77dragon
by Member on Jan. 11, 2014 at 12:45 PM

That sucks. I had no idea that I had such a short window to get that done in the school year. I will have to search out some way of getting this done.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

You do not have to use the PSSAs.  You can use either the PSSAs, the California Acheivment tests, the Stanford acheivment tests, The Iowa test of basic skills, the Peabodies, the Terra Novas, the Woodcock Johnsons revised (III), the Metropolitans, or the CTPIV.  In PA the schools MUST administer the PSSAs for free, but you can have the other tests administered on your own.  If you are a member of a co-op, the co-op can higher a teacher to administer any of those tests.  PA Homeschoolers offer the Terra Novas at a bunch of locations for $35, but that is fall testing, and I'm not sure if they offer any spring testing.  My 3rd grader got his test results back in November.

For most people probably the PSSAs are best because they are free, but Zave comments on how he "hates that place" every time we drive past the local PS. 

Quoting celtic77dragon:

I apologize to the OP for getting off topic, but I know Blue is in the same state as me and I want to ask her about what she is saying here.

Blue, I am supposed to have my son tested this year and this is the one thing I just have no clue on how this is done. I thought it was the PSSA's that they needed tested with in grades 3,5,8. Am I incorrect on the PSSA part? I assumed that I needed to contact the public school to get this testing done. I keep forgetting to call them (gr!), so I don't know if they already did the state tests for this year. Are you saying that there are other options? 

Quoting bluerooffarm:

My state requires testing.  We can either choose to have our kids take the public school tests at the local public school OR we can choose from a list of approved tests and have the test administered somewhere else.  My son has too much history with the PS, so we drove an hour and took the Terra Nova test at a homeschool group.  It cost $35 for the test.  WE got there early and they needed someone to administer the 4th grade test (because it's not one of the necessary years, there was only 1 child taking it for fun) and I volunteered.  They paid me $30 to administer it.




bluerooffarm
by Gold Member on Jan. 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM

I'm sure there are spring tests somewhere.  

Quoting celtic77dragon:

That sucks. I had no idea that I had such a short window to get that done in the school year. I will have to search out some way of getting this done.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

You do not have to use the PSSAs.  You can use either the PSSAs, the California Acheivment tests, the Stanford acheivment tests, The Iowa test of basic skills, the Peabodies, the Terra Novas, the Woodcock Johnsons revised (III), the Metropolitans, or the CTPIV.  In PA the schools MUST administer the PSSAs for free, but you can have the other tests administered on your own.  If you are a member of a co-op, the co-op can higher a teacher to administer any of those tests.  PA Homeschoolers offer the Terra Novas at a bunch of locations for $35, but that is fall testing, and I'm not sure if they offer any spring testing.  My 3rd grader got his test results back in November.

For most people probably the PSSAs are best because they are free, but Zave comments on how he "hates that place" every time we drive past the local PS. 

Quoting celtic77dragon:

I apologize to the OP for getting off topic, but I know Blue is in the same state as me and I want to ask her about what she is saying here.

Blue, I am supposed to have my son tested this year and this is the one thing I just have no clue on how this is done. I thought it was the PSSA's that they needed tested with in grades 3,5,8. Am I incorrect on the PSSA part? I assumed that I needed to contact the public school to get this testing done. I keep forgetting to call them (gr!), so I don't know if they already did the state tests for this year. Are you saying that there are other options? 

Quoting bluerooffarm:

My state requires testing.  We can either choose to have our kids take the public school tests at the local public school OR we can choose from a list of approved tests and have the test administered somewhere else.  My son has too much history with the PS, so we drove an hour and took the Terra Nova test at a homeschool group.  It cost $35 for the test.  WE got there early and they needed someone to administer the 4th grade test (because it's not one of the necessary years, there was only 1 child taking it for fun) and I volunteered.  They paid me $30 to administer it.





celtic77dragon
by Member on Jan. 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM

ADHD is a recognized disability. However, ADHD in itself does not USUALLY qualify for an IEP (unless it is an extreme case). I have known a lot of kids with this diagnosis and they do not have IEPS - my daughter is one of them. She was diagnosed through the school originally. If you had your son diagnosed outside of the school, they wouldnt even know to have an IEP for him.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

That's not true.  ADHD is a recognized disability in the US Dept of Ed and all states must provide certain services for it if they are deemed necessary by either the school, a healthcare professional, or the parents.   And Pennsylvania does recognize it: http://drnpa.org/File/publications/education-services-for-children-with-add-adhd.pdf

Quoting celtic77dragon:

ADHD is not enough for your child to get an IEP in Pa. My oldest dd was diagnosised with ADHD when in public school and never had an IEP. In fact, the public school is the place that recognized and diagnosised it. A private counselor later confirmed this and gave us tips on how to handle it. 

My son who was not school age at the time was SUPER hyper active and couldn't even sleep a full 8hrs and I assumed he had ADHD. So I had him tested at the same time. Turns out that he didn't fit the criteria enough. Sure enough, with age, his energy level has decreased quite a bit. He has the most focus of all of my kids. However, the counselor did give us ADHD related tips for his energy levels. 

Quoting bluerooffarm:


As for IEPs....I would carefully read the state laws about IEPs and homeschooling.  In my state if your child has an IEP in a public school, you would need to prove that you are following the IEP or have plans set to follow the IEP in order to "get permission" to homeschool.  I have a child that I am sure is ADHD, but I worry about getting him tested just so that law does not apply to us.  If you felt that you could have a specialist evaluate your child and then collaborate with her for a plan of action without involving the PS system, that would be my recommendation.

My kids did K12 last year and we hated it so badly that I pulled them out in the middle of the year.  Homeschooling (as daunting as it was to me) was much easier than having K12 oversee our education.




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