# Singapore Vs Math U See

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**We are using it next year. I'll take a look this weekend and let you know. I just know there is a non aligned version :-)**

Quoting No_Difference:Ooo I didn't realize that one was unaligned. Cool :) So do you use Singapore then? Does it skip around, or give a solid foundation to build off of like a mastery approach?

Quoting CowgirlMama0508: Singapore has a unaligned version :) its the primary mathematics US editions.

Jamie has been flew through the Gamma book and only slowed down when she hit chapter 25. This year on Delta she flew through (after her period of utter procrastination) til she hit chapter 25. I think with both its multiple digit times multiple digit with regrouping, and multi digit divided by multi digit. As soon as she passed Chapter 25, she picked up speed again. With both of those chapters, she could get the answers correct but it took her ages to do it. Eventually, I just had her move on... I have her practice speed on those types of problems seperately now. I'm ordering her the Epsilon book (since I'm sticking with MUS with her) soon, and by the "end" of our school year, she'll most likely be through most of Epsilon since my dad has been doing fractions with her and she already has said "so far too easy."

I know they slow down at certain points, but if they're getting the problems correct, we move on, regardless of how fast or slow they are at getting the correct answer, which still keeps them moving relatively quickly. Both seem to be geared for math.

I really do like MUS though. I like that it is fully mastery based and I know the kids know their stuff really well and understand it thoroughly, I'm just really afraid of the cost with two kids doing math now, and possibly going through 1 1/2-2 books a year with each of them. Especially if they continue to find math easy.

Quoting KrissyKC: Just an observation. My kids switched to math u see this year. They were gamma and zeta. They flew through the first third of the book and I was thinking like you... its too easy right? Nope...it got just challenging enough to slow them down.Quoting No_Difference:Jamie HATED Life of Fred. She struggles with reading though too, so I think that may have been part of it. I personally like MUS, but at the same time, I think I need something that is a little bit more of a challenge so we're not flying through this stuff so quickly. At this rate, they'll be done with the Calc book by 10th grade, and then I'm stuck trying to find far more difficult math for them... not that its bad lol, but I'd rather challenge them a little more now if I can...

Quoting Jinx-Troublex3: A thought.. . I know nothing about Singapore but I know a bunch of families who supplement MUS with Life of Fred.

I will have to take a peak at that one then too :) Thank you. I really love the mastery approach to learning math too. The spiral method gives me a headache lol. And I've noticed that if we go over things too many times, my kids lose interest so quickly and then don't retain anything.

Quoting TidewaterClan:We use "Math in Focus - the Singapore Approach." It's much more advanced than the "Everyday Math" the girls had previously. We really like it. There was a learning curve last year for little dd when they introduced it in the 2nd grade, and this year for my older dd (6th). The book is heavy on word problems, and bar models to solve them. The girls grumped about those at first, but once they had them down it made the problems so much easier to solve.

We're through the A books and will be most of the way through the B before our year ends. It's a solid Mastery Approach. The only weakness I found was the length of time spent on subtraction. They do a good job with addition, but skim through subtraction. We took some extra time playing games until little dd felt solid.

I'm assuming Singapore is similar, but that's an assumption of course!

Thank you :) I appreciate it!

Quoting CowgirlMama0508: We are using it next year. I'll take a look this weekend and let you know. I just know there is a non aligned version :-)Quoting No_Difference:Ooo I didn't realize that one was unaligned. Cool :) So do you use Singapore then? Does it skip around, or give a solid foundation to build off of like a mastery approach?

Quoting CowgirlMama0508: Singapore has a unaligned version :) its the primary mathematics US editions.

I wish I found the brick wall! lol. I feel totally useless to them in math. They need me for a whole 5 seconds to explain how to do it, and then the rest of the time to keep them from throwing erasers at each other :/ lol.

I have supplemented with just about everything I could think of and get my hands on cheaply, but I feel guilty keeping them on something, when they're getting the answers correct all the time. It may take them a little while to get an answer when its a large problem, but they're getting it correct. So before we start the day's math lesson, we do a problem that they're slow at, time it, and try to beat the last day's time. That way its like a fun little race against themselves, and its just to work on speed.

Quoting mem82:Kids well fly through until they hit their brick wall. 8) Have you thought about supplementing to slow them down?

Yep, that Everyday Math the girls originally had was spiral and the grew bored by the seond round each year. Mastery seems to work so much better for them (and me!). It's easier to assess how much they understand as we dig into the different math functions.

Quoting No_Difference:I will have to take a peak at that one then too :) Thank you. I really love the mastery approach to learning math too. The spiral method gives me a headache lol. And I've noticed that if we go over things too many times, my kids lose interest so quickly and then don't retain anything.

Quoting TidewaterClan:We use "Math in Focus - the Singapore Approach." It's much more advanced than the "Everyday Math" the girls had previously. We really like it. There was a learning curve last year for little dd when they introduced it in the 2nd grade, and this year for my older dd (6th). The book is heavy on word problems, and bar models to solve them. The girls grumped about those at first, but once they had them down it made the problems so much easier to solve.

We're through the A books and will be most of the way through the B before our year ends. It's a solid Mastery Approach. The only weakness I found was the length of time spent on subtraction. They do a good job with addition, but skim through subtraction. We took some extra time playing games until little dd felt solid.

I'm assuming Singapore is similar, but that's an assumption of course!

I know when Liam was done with gamma and we hadn't ordered the next one, we did a couple weeks of math games online for about 20 minutes 3 times/weekly and focused on the other subjects.

Quoting No_Difference:Jamie has been flew through the Gamma book and only slowed down when she hit chapter 25. This year on Delta she flew through (after her period of utter procrastination) til she hit chapter 25. I think with both its multiple digit times multiple digit with regrouping, and multi digit divided by multi digit. As soon as she passed Chapter 25, she picked up speed again. With both of those chapters, she could get the answers correct but it took her ages to do it. Eventually, I just had her move on... I have her practice speed on those types of problems seperately now. I'm ordering her the Epsilon book (since I'm sticking with MUS with her) soon, and by the "end" of our school year, she'll most likely be through most of Epsilon since my dad has been doing fractions with her and she already has said "so far too easy." I know they slow down at certain points, but if they're getting the problems correct, we move on, regardless of how fast or slow they are at getting the correct answer, which still keeps them moving relatively quickly. Both seem to be geared for math. I really do like MUS though. I like that it is fully mastery based and I know the kids know their stuff really well and understand it thoroughly, I'm just really afraid of the cost with two kids doing math now, and possibly going through 1 1/2-2 books a year with each of them. Especially if they continue to find math easy.

Quoting KrissyKC: Just an observation. My kids switched to math u see this year. They were gamma and zeta.

They flew through the first third of the book and I was thinking like you... its too easy right?

Nope...it got just challenging enough to slow them down.

Quoting No_Difference:Jamie HATED Life of Fred. She struggles with reading though too, so I think that may have been part of it. I personally like MUS, but at the same time, I think I need something that is a little bit more of a challenge so we're not flying through this stuff so quickly. At this rate, they'll be done with the Calc book by 10th grade, and then I'm stuck trying to find far more difficult math for them... not that its bad lol, but I'd rather challenge them a little more now if I can...

Quoting Jinx-Troublex3: A thought.. .

I know nothing about Singapore but I know a bunch of families who supplement MUS with Life of Fred.

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- TidewaterClan

on Mar. 28, 2014 at 10:55 PMWe use "Math in Focus - the Singapore Approach." It's much more advanced than the "Everyday Math" the girls had previously. We really like it. There was a learning curve last year for little dd when they introduced it in the 2nd grade, and this year for my older dd (6th). The book is heavy on word problems, and bar models to solve them. The girls grumped about those at first, but once they had them down it made the problems so much easier to solve.

We're through the A books and will be most of the way through the B before our year ends. It's a solid Mastery Approach. The only weakness I found was the length of time spent on subtraction. They do a good job with addition, but skim through subtraction. We took some extra time playing games until little dd felt solid.

I'm assuming Singapore is similar, but that's an assumption of course!