I posted back in the summer, I was seriously considering putting my 11 yr old DD back into PS. There are no homeschool communities near us, I work full time, and she was home alone all day lonely and isolated with no friends.

She decided she would give PS another try. We only homeschooled for most of last year. She started the school in Sept., with extra support from an assigned teacher. She was doing excellent. All A's and B's. Except math. COMMON CORE MATH. She comes home from school and just wants to unwind, go outside, ride her bike, put together her potions in the backyard and hang out in her fort. She goes to therapy twice a week too which takes up about 2 hours. But no, instead, she comes homes, has a quick snack and starts her math. Anywhere from 1 to 2 hours every night.

She's so stressed. She's an extra sensitive child, so when she can't focus, or finish her work, she has a break down.

I'm going to meet with the school and if they cannot accommodate her. The only thing they've done so far is give her extra time on HW. But that actually makes it worse because it builds up immediately. I am so disappointed with the public school system. The teachers are awesome, the system is terrible!

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If you really want to keep her in school, tell them that you will be setting a timer. She will do (X#) of minutes of math homework. And that's that. Remember that you are the parent and that they are only acting "in loco parentis" meaning that they can only make decisions for your child when the child is in their care during the school day. You would have legal avenues to sue them if they lower the child's grade over homework since homework is by definition not protected by the in loco parentis doctrine.

If you choose to go that route, understand that you are in for one hell of a fight. And you may end up leaving anyway. The people that seem so nice and awesome right now, will not take kindly to you taking back your authority over your child.

Thanks for the info. I've never heard of HW being anything less than what it is now. She gets points taken off for incompete HW, and this has affected her grade a lot. I'm going to look up what you just told me.

I really want to take her out again, but not unless we have a better set up than last year. As of now, the alternative is not really any better, just different.

Quoting bluerooffarm:If you really want to keep her in school, tell them that you will be setting a timer. She will do (X#) of minutes of math homework. And that's that. Remember that you are the parent and that they are only acting "in loco parentis" meaning that they can only make decisions for your child when the child is in their care during the school day. You would have legal avenues to sue them if they lower the child's grade over homework since homework is by definition not protected by the in loco parentis doctrine.

If you choose to go that route, understand that you are in for one hell of a fight. And you may end up leaving anyway. The people that seem so nice and awesome right now, will not take kindly to you taking back your authority over your child.

Look around the website racetonowhere.com. It was a documentary a couple years ago about parents reclaiming their homelife. There's lots of resources for parents, research about how little homework actually affects learning, etc.

Quoting veggiemom474:Thanks for the info. I've never heard of HW being anything less than what it is now. She gets points taken off for incompete HW, and this has affected her grade a lot. I'm going to look up what you just told me.

I really want to take her out again, but not unless we have a better set up than last year. As of now, the alternative is not really any better, just different.

Quoting bluerooffarm:If you really want to keep her in school, tell them that you will be setting a timer. She will do (X#) of minutes of math homework. And that's that. Remember that you are the parent and that they are only acting "in loco parentis" meaning that they can only make decisions for your child when the child is in their care during the school day. You would have legal avenues to sue them if they lower the child's grade over homework since homework is by definition not protected by the in loco parentis doctrine.

If you choose to go that route, understand that you are in for one hell of a fight. And you may end up leaving anyway. The people that seem so nice and awesome right now, will not take kindly to you taking back your authority over your child.

Ask if one of the teachers will do some tutoring to your daughter, or if they knwon of someone that will tutor her just in math. She has to learn the common core way. When were were in grade school they came up with "the new math". It was a bugar but the community center had tutors for us after school. Numbers are strange, there are a million ways to get the same answer with math, They want our kids to stretch the imagination to come up with the answer in the new way to solve the problem. She will learn it by next year, she will be tutoring another classmate, just you see.

If she knows how to do the "old" way can you guys just ask if she can do it that way? I just don't get why they can't use the old way if they still can get the answer. And if she doesn't know the old way (i.e. it's new material) can you or resources online teach it the old way (khan academy maybe, I'm really not sure how they present things and if it's at a younger level, but I'm sure there's other stuff out there) and they'll let her turn it in that way? Might save you guys a lot of grief.

Time for some research. I'm headed over to that website to check it out. Never heard of it until now. Thanks! :)

Quoting bluerooffarm:Look around the website racetonowhere.com. It was a documentary a couple years ago about parents reclaiming their homelife. There's lots of resources for parents, research about how little homework actually affects learning, etc.

Quoting veggiemom474:Thanks for the info. I've never heard of HW being anything less than what it is now. She gets points taken off for incompete HW, and this has affected her grade a lot. I'm going to look up what you just told me.

I really want to take her out again, but not unless we have a better set up than last year. As of now, the alternative is not really any better, just different.

Quoting bluerooffarm:

There is no such thing as "common core math." The Common Core is a set of standards that the kids are expected to be able to meet. Much like what was known as State or National Standards. Just trying to get to where all kids in the US are expected to know the same content regardless of where they go to school. There is a movement toward different teaching methods, I think what you aren't liking is the way the are teaching math, not the standards for math.

As for homework, is it too much or does it just take her a long time because she doesn't understand? If it's she doesn't understand that is the exact purpose of homework, identify and reinforce the classroom learning. Have her talk to her teacher or seek out tutoring.

She gets it most of the time. It's not about her not understanding it, it's about how much time it consumes when the girl has been at school ALL day, and simply wants to go outside, or do her hobbies. Not sit at the table doing MORE school work for an hour or more. The method of math is too drawn out. I have a problem with that.

Quoting Marie207:Ask if one of the teachers will do some tutoring to your daughter, or if they knwon of someone that will tutor her just in math. She has to learn the common core way. When were were in grade school they came up with "the new math". It was a bugar but the community center had tutors for us after school. Numbers are strange, there are a million ways to get the same answer with math, They want our kids to stretch the imagination to come up with the answer in the new way to solve the problem. She will learn it by next year, she will be tutoring another classmate, just you see.

She understands it most of the time. It's just how long it takes that's a problem. She doesn't get hardly any time at all for some freedom. That is really important to my DD.

Quoting fostermommy1:There is no such thing as "common core math." The Common Core is a set of standards that the kids are expected to be able to meet. Much like what was known as State or National Standards. Just trying to get to where all kids in the US are expected to know the same content regardless of where they go to school. There is a movement toward different teaching methods, I think what you aren't liking is the way the are teaching math, not the standards for math.

As for homework, is it too much or does it just take her a long time because she doesn't understand? If it's she doesn't understand that is the exact purpose of homework, identify and reinforce the classroom learning. Have her talk to her teacher or seek out tutoring.

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on Oct. 26, 2015 at 11:07 AM