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Poor SD had a visit from HELL with BM *Update #1, #2, #3, and #4

So, this past week SD told BM that she doesn't want to go for a week at a time, they she only wants to see her every other weekend or once a month. SD told her she's sick of lying and keeping secrets for her mom...

It did NOT end well. Apparently BM said, "Fuck you! I cannot believe you are doing this to me. I could fucking kill you." There's more, but that's the part SD remembered the most. BM then made SD sit in a restaurant alone talking to her grandma (BM's mom) on the phone while BM went outside to smoke. Grandma (BM's mom) was crying and begging SD to change her mind, and said that sometimes when people are really upset they say things they don't mean and BM didn't really mean it.

Later that night, when BM thought SD was sleeping she told her friend J that she wanted to beat SD to death. SD was NOT sleeping, she heard it, and she was scared and didn't know what to do. SD said she spent the rest of the time scared that BM would hurt her.

We found all of this out tonight. DH called 911 and reported it, they said that unless BM hits her there's NOTHING they can do, and suggested we call CPS (Child Protective Services). So, DH called CPS. They took a report, they will probably have an investigator call DH to make an official report, but they wont investigate it unless BM hits SD or actually hurts her. The CPS intake person on the phone told DH to make up a story about SD being really sick on Sunday so that SD can't go on her visit with BM next week...

DH also called SD's counselor and left her a message reporting ALL of this. SD was crying and saying that she doesn't want to go back to BM's house, because what if BM tries to kill her for real. And honestly, neither DH nor I feel comfortable saying that BM would never hurt her...


Update:

Well, we got some crappy news, until BM actually does hurt her physically we can't get a no-contact order. We're still waiting to hear back from SD's counselor. We were told that with the counselors recommendation they can give BM supervised visitation and we can request that BM be evaluated by a state psychologist. DH is going to see if the counselor would suggest to BM in writing that she NOT take visitation next week, DH has a meeting with an attorney next Tuesday, they can't get him in any sooner. By next week DH should be able to file the petition to modify the parenting plan, and we were told that we should request a temporary order to be signed  by the judge giving BM supervised visitation until a full investigation into the allegations of emotional abuse and SD over hearing threats against her can be completed.


Neither DH nor I have ever said BM was a good parent, and we've often wondered about just how severe the emotional abuse was (SD is still opening up to her counselor about it all); it was NEVER our intention to take SD from BM. Being a crappy mom doesn't negate the fact that BM is still SD's mom. We just wanted SD safe and happy.

Update 2:

I just spoke with SD's counselor. She says that there's nothing we can really do except file in court to get a new parenting plan in place ASAP. She's suggesting that DH go after sole physical and legal custody with either supervised visits or visits at DH's discretion. We have a meeting with an attorney next Tuesday and should hopefully be able to file things ASAP SD's counselor is going to speak to HER supervisor and see if there's anything that can be done in the mean time. The counselor doesn't want DH to contact BM about anything because she's worried that BM would take it out on SD. 


Update 3:

DH has a meeting with an attorney on Tuesday, at that point he's going to ask what he needs proof wise to get a temporary order signed by the judge the day he files the petition to modify the parenting plan. If we can meet that burdon of proof (our declarations, SD's counselor's declaration, and SD's occupational therapist's declaration) then that's what he's going to file. He's going to ask that the temporary order give BM no visitation during that time and then once the hearing for the modification comes up then he can ask for supervised visitation for BM.

So, everything is kinda at a standstill until the meetin with the attorney Tuesday. SD will still have to go to BM's next week. The counselor suggested that we come up with a safety plan for SD and the cell phone in case SD needs to call for help. Right now the safety plan is that SD is to text DH or I 911 and her location (BM's house, grandma's house, or J's house) and then she's to call 911 and ask for help and tell them what's going on. At that time DH or I can call 911 and report that SD has called 911 and doesn't know the address where she's at. We have those 3 addresses so we can give them the address to go to.

 Update 4:

We went and ordered SD an iPhone 4S, after a LOT of research we decided on that one because we can password protect the app market, so she can ONLY download things when DH or I put the password into. We can also turn the GPS monitoring on on it so that in the event SD has to call 911 while with BM they'll be able to track her phone. Unfortunately it may not be here before this next week's visit.

DH spoke to SD's counselor and since BM had contacted DH about the issue last week about SD no longer wanting to go for a week at a time, the counselor suggested that DH ask if BM is willing to cancel this next week's visit so that SD can just stay home. We'll see what BM says. DH made very sure to explain that the counselor was the one who wanted the visit cancelled for SD's well being.

The counselor also suggested that SD should go for sole legal and physical custody with BM having EOWE visitation, but that DH should have the power to cancel any visit if he feels its in SD's best interest. The counselor also said that she was under the impression that BM didn't have a place to live at all, that she was couch surfing and dragging SD along with her and THAT is part of the reason that SD doesn't know where she's going to be when.

DH asked BM to go to mediation with him. He's going to show her EVERYTHING he has (the declaration from SD's occupational therapist,  the letter from SD's counselor, EVERYTHING) and let her know that this is what the professionals working with SD feel is in SD's best interest to have things be this way.

by on Jul. 15, 2013 at 12:01 AM
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momof2ex1
by Ruby Member on Jul. 18, 2013 at 8:25 PM
With the iPhone you can get find my phone and it links to iCloud. As long as the phone is on, you can log in and find the phone and where it is. Free ap. no charge to install or keep it.


Quoting Tinkerbellmama:

I'm going to look to see if there's an app we can put on her phone that will allow for GPS or something. It's not the same type of app market like the iphone market or android market.



Quoting Frustrated10:

Thanks for explaining what could happen. It seems that the law doesn't stand on the side of the child but instead protects the crazy parents.


I know you said that sd has a phone on her moms plan and its not a smart phone. Do you have a smart phone/Iphone? If so, can you get sd a smart phone on your plan so locating her would be easier with a app? Or just switch your smart phone for hers for a time she is with her mom. That wouldn't cost anything or create a new contract. Just a thought.


I will continue to keep you and your family in my thoughts, especially the child.


Quoting Tinkerbellmama:


If she didn't go to mom on Sunday, mom files comtempt of court and DH would be found in contempt of court. If that happens two times then there's a very high chance that custody could be reversed and mom would have custody.


We've consulted with several people about this, and unfortuantely, there's no way around sending her, unless we want to risk mom filing contempt of court. And that could greatly effect our ability to get a judge to agree with the new proposed parenting plan and temporary orders.
 




Quoting Frustrated10:


I feel so sad for the little girl, I don't know how you do it. I hope she doesn't have to go this Sunday. I am glad that you and her dad know how to navigate the system. What would happen if she just didn't go this Sunday? What if Dad told Mom she isn't coming? I'm only asking because I have no experience with CO's and child custody disputes.













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Tinkerbellmama
by Platinum Member on Jul. 18, 2013 at 8:34 PM


That's why we went with the iPhone

Quoting momof2ex1:

With the iPhone you can get find my phone and it links to iCloud. As long as the phone is on, you can log in and find the phone and where it is. Free ap. no charge to install or keep it.


Quoting Tinkerbellmama:

I'm going to look to see if there's an app we can put on her phone that will allow for GPS or something. It's not the same type of app market like the iphone market or android market.



Quoting Frustrated10:

Thanks for explaining what could happen. It seems that the law doesn't stand on the side of the child but instead protects the crazy parents.


I know you said that sd has a phone on her moms plan and its not a smart phone. Do you have a smart phone/Iphone? If so, can you get sd a smart phone on your plan so locating her would be easier with a app? Or just switch your smart phone for hers for a time she is with her mom. That wouldn't cost anything or create a new contract. Just a thought.


I will continue to keep you and your family in my thoughts, especially the child.


Quoting Tinkerbellmama:


If she didn't go to mom on Sunday, mom files comtempt of court and DH would be found in contempt of court. If that happens two times then there's a very high chance that custody could be reversed and mom would have custody.


We've consulted with several people about this, and unfortuantely, there's no way around sending her, unless we want to risk mom filing contempt of court. And that could greatly effect our ability to get a judge to agree with the new proposed parenting plan and temporary orders.
 




Quoting Frustrated10:


I feel so sad for the little girl, I don't know how you do it. I hope she doesn't have to go this Sunday. I am glad that you and her dad know how to navigate the system. What would happen if she just didn't go this Sunday? What if Dad told Mom she isn't coming? I'm only asking because I have no experience with CO's and child custody disputes.















momof2ex1
by Ruby Member on Jul. 18, 2013 at 8:38 PM
I didn't know about the app when dd had her first iPhone. It was 'mysteriously' stolen at dads house and I had no way of tracking it. I learned that the hard way. Not only does she have insurance this time but she also has the app :)


Quoting Tinkerbellmama:


That's why we went with the iPhone


Quoting momof2ex1:

With the iPhone you can get find my phone and it links to iCloud. As long as the phone is on, you can log in and find the phone and where it is. Free ap. no charge to install or keep it.





Quoting Tinkerbellmama:

I'm going to look to see if there's an app we can put on her phone that will allow for GPS or something. It's not the same type of app market like the iphone market or android market.




Quoting Frustrated10:

Thanks for explaining what could happen. It seems that the law doesn't stand on the side of the child but instead protects the crazy parents.



I know you said that sd has a phone on her moms plan and its not a smart phone. Do you have a smart phone/Iphone? If so, can you get sd a smart phone on your plan so locating her would be easier with a app? Or just switch your smart phone for hers for a time she is with her mom. That wouldn't cost anything or create a new contract. Just a thought.



I will continue to keep you and your family in my thoughts, especially the child.



Quoting Tinkerbellmama:



If she didn't go to mom on Sunday, mom files comtempt of court and DH would be found in contempt of court. If that happens two times then there's a very high chance that custody could be reversed and mom would have custody.



We've consulted with several people about this, and unfortuantely, there's no way around sending her, unless we want to risk mom filing contempt of court. And that could greatly effect our ability to get a judge to agree with the new proposed parenting plan and temporary orders.
 






Quoting Frustrated10:



I feel so sad for the little girl, I don't know how you do it. I hope she doesn't have to go this Sunday. I am glad that you and her dad know how to navigate the system. What would happen if she just didn't go this Sunday? What if Dad told Mom she isn't coming? I'm only asking because I have no experience with CO's and child custody disputes.























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Tinkerbellmama
by Platinum Member on Jul. 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM

We have that app on the iPod touch, that's how I know :)

If BM takes the phone away from SD we'll file theft charges against BM. With the counselor on our side and saying everything she's saying; it would be VERY stupid of BM to pull something like that.


Quoting momof2ex1:

I didn't know about the app when dd had her first iPhone. It was 'mysteriously' stolen at dads house and I had no way of tracking it. I learned that the hard way. Not only does she have insurance this time but she also has the app :)


Quoting Tinkerbellmama:


That's why we went with the iPhone


Quoting momof2ex1:

With the iPhone you can get find my phone and it links to iCloud. As long as the phone is on, you can log in and find the phone and where it is. Free ap. no charge to install or keep it.





Quoting Tinkerbellmama:

I'm going to look to see if there's an app we can put on her phone that will allow for GPS or something. It's not the same type of app market like the iphone market or android market.




Quoting Frustrated10:

Thanks for explaining what could happen. It seems that the law doesn't stand on the side of the child but instead protects the crazy parents.



I know you said that sd has a phone on her moms plan and its not a smart phone. Do you have a smart phone/Iphone? If so, can you get sd a smart phone on your plan so locating her would be easier with a app? Or just switch your smart phone for hers for a time she is with her mom. That wouldn't cost anything or create a new contract. Just a thought.



I will continue to keep you and your family in my thoughts, especially the child.



Quoting Tinkerbellmama:



If she didn't go to mom on Sunday, mom files comtempt of court and DH would be found in contempt of court. If that happens two times then there's a very high chance that custody could be reversed and mom would have custody.



We've consulted with several people about this, and unfortuantely, there's no way around sending her, unless we want to risk mom filing contempt of court. And that could greatly effect our ability to get a judge to agree with the new proposed parenting plan and temporary orders.
 






Quoting Frustrated10:



I feel so sad for the little girl, I don't know how you do it. I hope she doesn't have to go this Sunday. I am glad that you and her dad know how to navigate the system. What would happen if she just didn't go this Sunday? What if Dad told Mom she isn't coming? I'm only asking because I have no experience with CO's and child custody disputes.

























momof2ex1
by Ruby Member on Jul. 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM
We opted to not file the theft charge this time. We are letting family court handle it. Because then we can get a judgement for the full replacement of the phone and what it costs to cancel the contract etc etc. they have been notified and have until July 31st to return the phone...


Quoting Tinkerbellmama:

We have that app on the iPod touch, that's how I know :)

If BM takes the phone away from SD we'll file theft charges against BM. With the counselor on our side and saying everything she's saying; it would be VERY stupid of BM to pull something like that.



Quoting momof2ex1:

I didn't know about the app when dd had her first iPhone. It was 'mysteriously' stolen at dads house and I had no way of tracking it. I learned that the hard way. Not only does she have insurance this time but she also has the app :)





Quoting Tinkerbellmama:


That's why we went with the iPhone



Quoting momof2ex1:

With the iPhone you can get find my phone and it links to iCloud. As long as the phone is on, you can log in and find the phone and where it is. Free ap. no charge to install or keep it.








Quoting Tinkerbellmama:

I'm going to look to see if there's an app we can put on her phone that will allow for GPS or something. It's not the same type of app market like the iphone market or android market.





Quoting Frustrated10:

Thanks for explaining what could happen. It seems that the law doesn't stand on the side of the child but instead protects the crazy parents.




I know you said that sd has a phone on her moms plan and its not a smart phone. Do you have a smart phone/Iphone? If so, can you get sd a smart phone on your plan so locating her would be easier with a app? Or just switch your smart phone for hers for a time she is with her mom. That wouldn't cost anything or create a new contract. Just a thought.




I will continue to keep you and your family in my thoughts, especially the child.




Quoting Tinkerbellmama:




If she didn't go to mom on Sunday, mom files comtempt of court and DH would be found in contempt of court. If that happens two times then there's a very high chance that custody could be reversed and mom would have custody.




We've consulted with several people about this, and unfortuantely, there's no way around sending her, unless we want to risk mom filing contempt of court. And that could greatly effect our ability to get a judge to agree with the new proposed parenting plan and temporary orders.
 








Quoting Frustrated10:




I feel so sad for the little girl, I don't know how you do it. I hope she doesn't have to go this Sunday. I am glad that you and her dad know how to navigate the system. What would happen if she just didn't go this Sunday? What if Dad told Mom she isn't coming? I'm only asking because I have no experience with CO's and child custody disputes.



































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Seychelles1409
by Gold Member on Jul. 18, 2013 at 10:35 PM

How old is your SD?  I feel so sorry for the paid she is experiencing and for all you are going through as a family.  Prayers are with you.  I hope all works out for you and soon.

Tinkerbellmama
by Platinum Member on Jul. 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

I can understand why you would do it that way. I hope it all works out.


Quoting momof2ex1:

We opted to not file the theft charge this time. We are letting family court handle it. Because then we can get a judgement for the full replacement of the phone and what it costs to cancel the contract etc etc. they have been notified and have until July 31st to return the phone...


Quoting Tinkerbellmama:

We have that app on the iPod touch, that's how I know :)

If BM takes the phone away from SD we'll file theft charges against BM. With the counselor on our side and saying everything she's saying; it would be VERY stupid of BM to pull something like that.



Quoting momof2ex1:

I didn't know about the app when dd had her first iPhone. It was 'mysteriously' stolen at dads house and I had no way of tracking it. I learned that the hard way. Not only does she have insurance this time but she also has the app :)





Quoting Tinkerbellmama:


That's why we went with the iPhone



Quoting momof2ex1:

With the iPhone you can get find my phone and it links to iCloud. As long as the phone is on, you can log in and find the phone and where it is. Free ap. no charge to install or keep it.








Quoting Tinkerbellmama:

I'm going to look to see if there's an app we can put on her phone that will allow for GPS or something. It's not the same type of app market like the iphone market or android market.





Quoting Frustrated10:

Thanks for explaining what could happen. It seems that the law doesn't stand on the side of the child but instead protects the crazy parents.




I know you said that sd has a phone on her moms plan and its not a smart phone. Do you have a smart phone/Iphone? If so, can you get sd a smart phone on your plan so locating her would be easier with a app? Or just switch your smart phone for hers for a time she is with her mom. That wouldn't cost anything or create a new contract. Just a thought.




I will continue to keep you and your family in my thoughts, especially the child.




Quoting Tinkerbellmama:




If she didn't go to mom on Sunday, mom files comtempt of court and DH would be found in contempt of court. If that happens two times then there's a very high chance that custody could be reversed and mom would have custody.




We've consulted with several people about this, and unfortuantely, there's no way around sending her, unless we want to risk mom filing contempt of court. And that could greatly effect our ability to get a judge to agree with the new proposed parenting plan and temporary orders.
 








Quoting Frustrated10:




I feel so sad for the little girl, I don't know how you do it. I hope she doesn't have to go this Sunday. I am glad that you and her dad know how to navigate the system. What would happen if she just didn't go this Sunday? What if Dad told Mom she isn't coming? I'm only asking because I have no experience with CO's and child custody disputes.





































Tinkerbellmama
by Platinum Member on Jul. 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM

SD is 13, but developmentally is closer to 10.


Quoting Seychelles1409:

How old is your SD?  I feel so sorry for the paid she is experiencing and for all you are going through as a family.  Prayers are with you.  I hope all works out for you and soon.



MrsMama030912
by Member on Jul. 19, 2013 at 2:10 AM
Hey what's the app called ,that GPS tracking one ? It's available on an iPod too ?!
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Tinkerbellmama
by Platinum Member on Jul. 19, 2013 at 2:25 AM

This is the one I found: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gps-location-tracker-for-iphone/id395332488?mt=8

It says it only works with ipads and iphones 3 and above

Quoting MrsMama030912:

Hey what's the app called ,that GPS tracking one ? It's available on an iPod too ?!



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