BM to SS6 and SD2 (almost three)has as expected, called to say they have no money until tonight at midnight and can't get the kids back until tomorrow at 10, earliest. She was suppose to have them back tonight. They are 8hrs away. We are fully expecting her to call tomorrow morning and say they are having car issues. This is a new occurance, in the last two months. We suspect that BM and her boyfriend are using again.We also think, per BM Dad's that the truck they are using does not have room for a careseat, booster and two adults, but aren't sure. We are trying to decide if we should head up to TN, where they are, to get the kids. We would have to leave tomight at 10 when DH gets off, and drive the 8hrs, get them and drive straight back. 16+hrs in total.The CO says that Thankgiving's is ours this year. The CO's does not reflect the new distance, we are filing for a new one in January. We would have to borrow the money from DH parents to go get them, and have to have inlaws watch the other two LO's. We do not have much to spare in the budget, ever, but especially not now. We have three birthdays, Christmas and a trip to New Orlean's to exchange my DD's to their BF for Christmas coming. We only get regular child support for my DD's, the other four kids in the house did not get CS or get it very infrequently. It's not so much about the money but more about setting a precedent. If we go and get the kids, are we setting a precedent that every time we have to go get them? This would be nearly impossible with the budget and time constraints we have. BM gets a discount on CS for travel, and she is over 2000 dollars behind. Unfortunately, as most of you know, in situations like this we have to consider court, especially with a new CO beng filed. This whole situation is messed up because nothing has changed on our part, but it seems like we are heading for a war. Which only hurts SS6, SD2 has never lived with BM, BM left her a 3 weeks old. We do not believe the kids are in any danger at this time. BM does love them, and is not abusive. We only have suspisions of drug use due to erratic behavior in the last 2 months.