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It is not stealing. It just isn't.

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If you have Wifi and you don't have it password protected and someone uses it, it is not stealing. I see this on here from time to time and I honestly don't get it. It's not rocket science to set up a password. And if you don't, its probably gonna get used from time to time.

I just don't see how that is stealing. For one thing, I'm pretty sure it is not illegal.

Anyone care to explain?
Posted by Anonymous on May. 1, 2012 at 3:20 AM
Replies (41-50):
AnastasiaKorsh
by on May. 1, 2012 at 3:45 AM

Yes it is stealing. And it can also slow down their service when multiple people use the accounts. Not to mention some companies charge EXTRA (which you do not pay for) for other people to be able to access the Internet through their router.

Also, if you download things illegally through their Internet service they are liable. A year ago there was a case of some lady pirating pornos through her Internet. It was actually her landlord that used her service, but she got charged because it was in her name. So yes, you could cost them money.


Also, you taking someone elses wifi, fits the definition of stealing pretty perfectly

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Quote:

to take the property of another wrongfully and especially as a habitual or regular practice
2
: to come or go secretly, unobtrusively, gradually, or unexpectedly
3
: to steal or attempt to steal a base
transitive verb
1
a : to take or appropriate without right or leave and with intent to keep or make use of wrongfully <stole a car> b : to take away by force or unjust means <they've stolen our liberty> c : to take surreptitiously or without permission <steal a kiss> d : to appropriate to oneself or beyond one's proper share : make oneself the focus of <steal the show>
2
a : to move, convey, or introduce secretly : smuggle b : to accomplish in a concealed or unobserved manner <steal a visit>
3

a : to seize, gain, or win by trickery, skill, or daring <a basketball player adept at stealing the ball> <stole the election>


Anonymous
by Anonymous 2 on May. 1, 2012 at 3:47 AM

I never said it was right. I just said it wasn't stealing. Because, honestly, I don't think it's technically stealing.

However, I don't think its ethical, or "right".

Quoting TygerLily62:

Well where do you distinguish between right and wrong there? It's ok as long as it's only a little bit?

Quoting Anonymous:

We're talking seconds here, not hours.


Quoting TygerLily62:

Some peoples time is money. But I'm pretty sure it is illegal if your caught.



Quoting Anonymous:

Someone's stereo = money

Someone's Wifi = *maybe* a slightly slower connection, no money involved



Quoting TygerLily62:

Well I'd say that if you're using something you'd normally have to pay for, for free, without permission it's stealing. Just because someone doesn't lock their car at night doesn't mean you can have their stereo.




Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on May. 1, 2012 at 3:47 AM
Ok, forget "air".... I most certainly do pay for the space in my home. Your wifi is invading my space.

Quoting TygerLily62:

Having air is not a service you pay for. It's not a service that any company is charging for. (I'm not talking purifiers or oxygen tanks here) Apples and oranges.



Quoting Anonymous:

It does to me. Every time someone says using wifi is stealing they bring up the same old "if you left your car unlocked and someone took it" excuse. The difference is people are not leaving their cars unlocked in my living room.





(just for the record we have our own wifi, password protected, but used the neighbors for a bit before we got hooked up. We asked him, he didn't care.)





Quoting TygerLily62:

Well now that just doesn't make sense at all.







Quoting Anonymous:

But no one is going inside anyone's house. In fact, their wifi is coming into MY house. Are they stealing my air?









Quoting Anonymous:

If you're using a service for free, at some one else's expense (literally) and you don't have their permission, that would be stealing. You are stealing because they're paying for THEIR service, not yours, and they shouldn't have to pay for yours. Would it be cool to go inside their house, without permission, and utilize anything inside it (water, appliances, etc) ? No. Their wifi, that's inside their house, and they pay for is no different. Just because their water hose might be able to reach your yard, is it cool to help yourself to free water if you didn't have your own? No, you'd be stealing their water.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 3 on May. 1, 2012 at 3:47 AM

I fricken hate the limits, and yes they are becoming more and more normal as more and more devices are using bandwidth. I once had unlimited and now I have to watch all month to make sure we don't go over with the netflix, and the three computers and the mobile phones lol. My first time out with wifi, I didn't know how to password protect but it was easy to find out who was stealing it lol. I downloaded all their pictures onto my computer since we were linked. 

Quoting Anonymous:

That makes some sense. If you have a limit I can see why it would be an issue or would be considered stealing. And, it seems, someday we may all be limited. So that would make sense. I knew cell data was limited but didn't realize it happened with wifi too. But it makes sense...

Quoting Anonymous:

Well, in my position you would be hurting me if you did it. I get a set amount each month of 250 GB a month which we are generally very close to when we use it. If we happen to go over it we can incur huge charges added on to our bill. Luckily are wifi is password protected. But something important to know is that if someone is useing a free open source, they have access to your personal computer if they choose to follow thru. It's a catch 22

Quoting Anonymous:

Depending on when you use their service. If you use it when they're not, there's no foul.

** disclaimer: I am not a wifi stealer... we have a password on ours... lol **


Quoting Anonymous:

Someone is paying money for their wifi service, so yes you are costing them money and denying them their full service. 

Quoting Anonymous:

Someone's stereo = money

Someone's Wifi = *maybe* a slightly slower connection, no money involved


Quoting TygerLily62:

Well I'd say that if you're using something you'd normally have to pay for, for free, without permission it's stealing. Just because someone doesn't lock their car at night doesn't mean you can have their stereo.






Anonymous
by Anonymous 2 on May. 1, 2012 at 3:48 AM

All this wireless stuff is just plain old creepy, really.

Quoting Anonymous:

Well, in my position you would be hurting me if you did it. I get a set amount each month of 250 GB a month which we are generally very close to when we use it. If we happen to go over it we can incur huge charges added on to our bill. Luckily are wifi is password protected. But something important to know is that if someone is useing a free open source, they have access to your personal computer if they choose to follow thru. It's a catch 22

Quoting Anonymous:

Depending on when you use their service. If you use it when they're not, there's no foul.

** disclaimer: I am not a wifi stealer... we have a password on ours... lol **

Quoting Anonymous:

Someone is paying money for their wifi service, so yes you are costing them money and denying them their full service. 

Quoting Anonymous:

Someone's stereo = money

Someone's Wifi = *maybe* a slightly slower connection, no money involved

Quoting TygerLily62:

Well I'd say that if you're using something you'd normally have to pay for, for free, without permission it's stealing. Just because someone doesn't lock their car at night doesn't mean you can have their stereo.






ElitestJen
by on May. 1, 2012 at 3:49 AM
So....are radio waves invading your space? (you do realize this is an asinine comparison, right?)


Quoting Anonymous:

Ok, forget "air".... I most certainly do pay for the space in my home. Your wifi is invading my space.



Quoting TygerLily62:

Having air is not a service you pay for. It's not a service that any company is charging for. (I'm not talking purifiers or oxygen tanks here) Apples and oranges.





Quoting Anonymous:

It does to me. Every time someone says using wifi is stealing they bring up the same old "if you left your car unlocked and someone took it" excuse. The difference is people are not leaving their cars unlocked in my living room.







(just for the record we have our own wifi, password protected, but used the neighbors for a bit before we got hooked up. We asked him, he didn't care.)







Quoting TygerLily62:

Well now that just doesn't make sense at all.









Quoting Anonymous:

But no one is going inside anyone's house. In fact, their wifi is coming into MY house. Are they stealing my air?











Quoting Anonymous:

If you're using a service for free, at some one else's expense (literally) and you don't have their permission, that would be stealing. You are stealing because they're paying for THEIR service, not yours, and they shouldn't have to pay for yours. Would it be cool to go inside their house, without permission, and utilize anything inside it (water, appliances, etc) ? No. Their wifi, that's inside their house, and they pay for is no different. Just because their water hose might be able to reach your yard, is it cool to help yourself to free water if you didn't have your own? No, you'd be stealing their water.


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TygerLily62
by on May. 1, 2012 at 3:49 AM
Lol. I'm not really sure why I'm actually having this discussion because I honestly couldn't care less who is using whose wifi as long as thet don't hack mine.

You ladies have a great night :)


Quoting Anonymous:

Ok, forget "air".... I most certainly do pay for the space in my home. Your wifi is invading my space.



Quoting TygerLily62:

Having air is not a service you pay for. It's not a service that any company is charging for. (I'm not talking purifiers or oxygen tanks here) Apples and oranges.





Quoting Anonymous:

It does to me. Every time someone says using wifi is stealing they bring up the same old "if you left your car unlocked and someone took it" excuse. The difference is people are not leaving their cars unlocked in my living room.







(just for the record we have our own wifi, password protected, but used the neighbors for a bit before we got hooked up. We asked him, he didn't care.)







Quoting TygerLily62:

Well now that just doesn't make sense at all.









Quoting Anonymous:

But no one is going inside anyone's house. In fact, their wifi is coming into MY house. Are they stealing my air?











Quoting Anonymous:

If you're using a service for free, at some one else's expense (literally) and you don't have their permission, that would be stealing. You are stealing because they're paying for THEIR service, not yours, and they shouldn't have to pay for yours. Would it be cool to go inside their house, without permission, and utilize anything inside it (water, appliances, etc) ? No. Their wifi, that's inside their house, and they pay for is no different. Just because their water hose might be able to reach your yard, is it cool to help yourself to free water if you didn't have your own? No, you'd be stealing their water.

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Anonymous
by Anonymous 2 on May. 1, 2012 at 3:50 AM

awww... I think you may be convincing me :)

Quoting Anonymous:

It's not breaking and entering if they left the door unlocked. Does it still make it okay? NOPE. The router is in THEIR house, it's no different than helping oneself to any of their other appliances or electronics without permission, PERIOD. And they are PAYING for the service, it doesn't matter HOW they pay for it. They pay for it with THEIR money and that makes it stealing if its being used without permission. It doesn't matter if they paid by the minute or a flat rate. It doesn't make it ok and it doesn't make it any less stealing.

Quoting Anonymous:

Going into someone's house is breaking and entering.... NOT the same as using someone else's wifi from your own house.

And people have to pay per gallon and per kw that they use. They pay a flat rate (most of the time) for internet, so their cost would not change if their neighbor used it too.

Apples to oranges. Just saying.

Quoting Anonymous:

If you're using a service for free, at some one else's expense (literally) and you don't have their permission, that would be stealing. You are stealing because they're paying for THEIR service, not yours, and they shouldn't have to pay for yours. Would it be cool to go inside their house, without permission, and utilize anything inside it (water, appliances, etc) ? No. Their wifi, that's inside their house, and they pay for is no different. Just because their water hose might be able to reach your yard, is it cool to help yourself to free water if you didn't have your own? No, you'd be stealing their water.




Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on May. 1, 2012 at 3:51 AM
No more "asinine" than comparing it to breaking into someone's home or stealing their car....

Quoting ElitestJen:

So....are radio waves invading your space? (you do realize this is an asinine comparison, right?)




Quoting Anonymous:

Ok, forget "air".... I most certainly do pay for the space in my home. Your wifi is invading my space.





Quoting TygerLily62:

Having air is not a service you pay for. It's not a service that any company is charging for. (I'm not talking purifiers or oxygen tanks here) Apples and oranges.







Quoting Anonymous:

It does to me. Every time someone says using wifi is stealing they bring up the same old "if you left your car unlocked and someone took it" excuse. The difference is people are not leaving their cars unlocked in my living room.









(just for the record we have our own wifi, password protected, but used the neighbors for a bit before we got hooked up. We asked him, he didn't care.)









Quoting TygerLily62:

Well now that just doesn't make sense at all.











Quoting Anonymous:

But no one is going inside anyone's house. In fact, their wifi is coming into MY house. Are they stealing my air?













Quoting Anonymous:

If you're using a service for free, at some one else's expense (literally) and you don't have their permission, that would be stealing. You are stealing because they're paying for THEIR service, not yours, and they shouldn't have to pay for yours. Would it be cool to go inside their house, without permission, and utilize anything inside it (water, appliances, etc) ? No. Their wifi, that's inside their house, and they pay for is no different. Just because their water hose might be able to reach your yard, is it cool to help yourself to free water if you didn't have your own? No, you'd be stealing their water.


couponluv72
by on May. 1, 2012 at 3:52 AM


Quoting Anonymous:

If you have Wifi and you don't have it password protected and someone uses it, it is not stealing. I see this on here from time to time and I honestly don't get it. It's not rocket science to set up a password. And if you don't, its probably gonna get used from time to time.

I just don't see how that is stealing. For one thing, I'm pretty sure it is not illegal.

Anyone care to explain?

the heck it isn't. not everyone is technically savvy, they do not always know to protect their wifi. that doesnt mean it is there for just anyone to use. you aren't paying for it, you aren't using it with their knowledge and permission. its stealing. 


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