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ridiculous I have to lie in a free country!!!! ~*EDIT*~

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Its ridiculous that in a FREE COUNTRY I have to LIE. I wish my state had philosophical vaccine exemptions, but they don't. So i'm forced to claim religious. Whatever. Its illegal for them to question and deny me.
Anyways. I felt stupid at the ped today. He respects my choice, but out of curiosity asked why. After my last experience of being honest, I decided to say "its against our religion"... Ha
Then he asks me what religion. I must have looked like a deer in the headlights. I blurted out Baptist. He said he didn't realized Baptist believed that way, so I had to think quick and I said it was just our interpretation of things. Luckily he left it at that.
I hate lying. I'm NOT good at it. Lol


And yes, i'm posting anon because I don't need my inbox flooded with stupidity.




Thanks for the laughs ladies!! I just LOVE the conclusions everyone jumps to. No where did I say I don't vax because of autism or Jenny McCarthy. ROFL.
You call me uneducated and tell me I should do research, but you have no idea what led me to the decision to not vaccinate my children. Do you enjoy name calling? Does it make you feel good about yourself?


About my OP, it has been brought to my attention that I am not in fact lying to get my exemption. Vaccinations go against my beliefs.
I did, however, choose to lie to the pediatrician. Yep, you got me there. God, i'm horrible. Either way, i'm not vaccinating and he wouldn't have been able to change my mind. AFTER I stated my lie, is when he said he respected my choice. Hallelujah!!
The last pediatrician I went to, I WAS honest with and I got a lecture and talked down to like an uninformed child. I was attempting to avoid that situation, and instead but myself in another awkward position. Lol. OOPS.


The decision not to vax my children was not made lightly. I spent Alot of time soul searching and informing myself. This is the best decision FOR MY FAMILY.
I'm not spewing "antivaccine propaganda" nor trying to convince anyone to live the way I do. I was sharing my funny story.

So, to those of you who wish to continue bashing me, carry on. This ol girl feels 100% confident in her choice, and your just making yourselves look foolish!! =)
Posted by Anonymous on Jun. 1, 2012 at 4:55 PM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Jun. 3, 2012 at 7:22 PM
Keep the replies coming ladies!! This is almost my biggest post ever!!!

BluEyedCrazy
by Christy Ann on Jun. 3, 2012 at 7:24 PM
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I agree :)

Quoting Not_A_Native:

Personally, I don't think there should be religious exemptions.  You don't want to vaccinate, fine - send your kid to private school or homeschool him/her.


And since they DO allow religous exemptions, I'd say they should have to be signed by a religious leader.

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Angeldolphine
by on Jun. 3, 2012 at 7:24 PM
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Except...the disease are not "completely" preventable by the vaccines. What happens if your child gets their vaccinations and then spreads whooping cough to other children who are not vaccinated? Are you responsible for that since you did vaccinate against the disease and your child got the disease from the vaccination? This also happens with Measles. What then?

Quoting sweetgrlangel:

I will put it simple. If your kid gets sick with something that is completely preventable and dies, shame on you. BUT if your kid gets my child sick because of a immune defficancy issue, wither it be from cancer or a current health issue, and my kid dies, shame on you and be prepared for me to take you to court.
How dare you make a choice to put MY child at risk, just because your ok with it doesn't mean I am. Schools require specific vaccinations for a reason. How dare you lie. If you don't want the vaccination HOMESCHOOL!


Zangrilli
by on Jun. 3, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Ange- if you talk to anyone over the age of 60 you would change your tune.  There is no reason NOT to get vaccinated for Polio.  It is a horrific disease.   Educate yourself before posting such nonsense. 

heatherottery
by on Jun. 3, 2012 at 7:26 PM

My youngest has Cystic Fibrosis and would probably die sooner if not for his vaccinations. He will have constant lung problems throughout his life so whatever we can prevent the better. AND I will also be getting any vaccines that I need as will my whole family if it means that he will have a chance at a longer life!

I will be doing everything that his doctors recommend, and give him all of the medications and antibiotics they tell me too, because they know what they are doing. Right now we are lucky because he doesn't have any serious bacteria in his lungs, but he still has to take 14 pills per day so that he can digest and absorb his food.I am so grateful to the CF team at Children's Hospital.

justme00
by Gold Member on Jun. 3, 2012 at 7:26 PM
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also I will ad, the CDC says that adults should get buster shots every 10 years on some vaxs and 5 on others. So I would love to know how many of you moms who are yelling at us non vaxers are up to date on their own vaxs??? Becasue if your not then you are in fact putting your child at risk just the same as you say we are. So go chew on that. Also how many of your kids grandparents have had the same vaxs as your child?? I am guessing not many seeing has how half of the vax where not around when the grandparents where kids, so call them up and tell them they cant see your kids till they are fully vaxed theyself. O and the non vax rate right now in the US is over 30% so dont take your kids out to the store and let them touch a shoping cart chanches are out of every 100 people who touched it before you 30 of them at least where not vaxed.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Jun. 3, 2012 at 7:26 PM
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Haven't you noticed. None of them will admit their vaxxed kids can spread these diseases just as easy as my unvaxxed!!
They just wanna point fingers and act like they are better.


We all protect our children in different ways. I choose not to vaccinate.

Quoting Angeldolphine:

Except...the disease are not "completely" preventable by the vaccines. What happens if your child gets their vaccinations and then spreads whooping cough to other children who are not vaccinated? Are you responsible for that since you did vaccinate against the disease and your child got the disease from the vaccination? This also happens with Measles. What then?

Quoting sweetgrlangel:

I will put it simple. If your kid gets sick with something that is completely preventable and dies, shame on you. BUT if your kid gets my child sick because of a immune defficancy issue, wither it be from cancer or a current health issue, and my kid dies, shame on you and be prepared for me to take you to court.

How dare you make a choice to put MY child at risk, just because your ok with it doesn't mean I am. Schools require specific vaccinations for a reason. How dare you lie. If you don't want the vaccination HOMESCHOOL!


Anonymous
by Anonymous 91 on Jun. 3, 2012 at 7:26 PM

 I see, any mommy who lies is a BAD mommy, unless that mommy is YOU;)

Quoting shivasgirl:

 if my child brings home a scribbled paper, it will be beautiful in my eyes so I wouldnt be lying to tell them so, same with a scar, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, that has nothing to do with lying to get your way

Quoting Anonymous:

 So...your children don't believe in Santa, Easter Bunny, tooth Fairy? If your child excitedly brings home a scribbled paper that he/she made a beautiful gift for your, your going to tell them  how awful it looks and that you have no idea what it is? You have a child with a horrible looking scar on their face, and your going to tell him/her how ugly he/she looks?

Quoting shivasgirl:

 you can try to justify this all you want...but if you are a good mother, you obey the law and dont lie to get your way, and you teach your children not to lie either. Stand up for what you believe in and teach your children honor...or dont be surprised when you find your children lying to you...a lie is a lie is a lie is a lie, nothing you can say changes that, and if you are ok teaching your children that lying is ok then that is not a good mommy

Quoting Anonymous:

They do when they have to =)

Quoting shivasgirl:

 sorry, good mommies dont lie


Quoting Anonymous:

Oh, and not everyone can afford private school, nor has the ability to homeschool.
So. I will claim My religious exemption and send my child to school like a good mommy.


Quoting shivasgirl:


 liar...if you really believe in this you should stand up, tell the truth and fight for your rights, send your kid to a private school or homeschool until the law is changed, until then you are just a liar


 

 

 

 

 

LittleWeloosMom
by on Jun. 3, 2012 at 7:28 PM

I know a man who got the polio vaccine as a child and it really hurt him. He can't walk without assistance and loss the use of one hand. There are also studies being done to see if there is a causation between the first polio vaccines and AIDS. Here's a page from Australia's University of Wollongong: http://www.uow.edu.au/~bmartin/dissent/documents/AIDS/

Anonymous
by Anonymous 96 on Jun. 3, 2012 at 7:28 PM
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www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/6mishome.htm#Diseaseshadalready

MISCONCEPTION #1 - Diseases had already begun to disappear before vaccines were introduced, because of better hygiene and sanitation.

Statements like this are very common in anti-vaccine literature, the intent apparently being to suggest that vaccines are not needed. Improved socioeconomic conditions have undoubtedly had an indirect impact on disease. Better nutrition, not to mention the development of antibiotics and other treatments, have increased survival rates among the sick; less crowded living conditions have reduced disease transmission; and lower birth rates have decreased the number of susceptible household contacts. But looking at the actual incidence of disease over the years can leave little doubt of the significant direct impact vaccines have had, even in modern times. Here, for example, is a graph showing the reported incidence of measles from 1950 to the present.

A graph showing the reported incidence of measles from 1950 to the present. There were periodic peaks and valleys throughout the years, but the real, permanent drop coincided with the licensure and wide use of measles vaccine beginning in 1963.

There were periodic peaks and valleys throughout the years, but the real, permanent drop in case of measles in the U.S. coincided with the licensure and wide use of measles vaccine beginning in 1963. Graphs for most other vaccine-preventable diseases show a similar pattern. Are we expected to believe that better sanitation caused incidence of each disease to drop, just at the time a vaccine for that disease was introduced?

*The incidence rate of hepatitis B has not dropped so dramatically yet because the infants we began vaccinating in 1991 will not be at high risk for the disease until they are at least teenagers. We therefore expect about a 15 year lag between the start of universal infant vaccination and a significant drop in disease incidence.

Hib vaccine is another good example, because Hib disease was prevalent until just a few years ago, when conjugate vaccines that can be used for infants were finally developed. (The polysaccharide vaccine previously available could not be used for infants, in whom most cases of the disease were occurring.) Since sanitation is not better now than it was in 1990, it is hard to attribute the virtual disappearance of Haemophilus influenzae disease in children in recent years (from an estimated 20,000 cases a year to 1,419 cases in 1993, and dropping) to anything other than the vaccine.

Varicella can also be used to illustrate the point, since modern sanitation has obviously not prevented nearly 4 million cases each year in the United States. If diseases were disappearing, we should expect varicella to be disappearing along with the rest of them. But nearly all children in the United States get the disease today, just as they did 20 years ago or 80 years ago. Based on experience with the varicella vaccine in studies before licensure, we can expect the incidence of varicella to drop significantly now that a vaccine has been licensed for the United States. Active surveillance in a number of countries and cities demonstrate a 76-86% decrease in varicella cases from 1995-2001.

Finally, we can look at the experiences of several developed countries after they let their immunization levels drop. Three countries - Great Britain, Sweden, and Japan - cut back the use of pertussis vaccine because of fear about the vaccine. The effect was dramatic and immediate. In Great Britain, a drop in pertussis vaccination in 1974 was followed by an epidemic of more than 100,000 cases of pertussis and 36 deaths by 1978. In Japan, around the same time, a drop in vaccination rates from 70% to 20%-40% led to a jump in pertussis from 393 cases and no deaths in 1974 to 13,000 cases and 41 deaths in 1979. In Sweden, the annual incidence rate of pertussis per 100,000 children 0-6 years of age increased from 700 cases in 1981 to 3,200 in 1985. It seems clear from these experiences that not only would diseases not be disappearing without vaccines, but if we were to stop vaccinating, they would come back.

Of more immediate interest is the major epidemic of diphtheria which occurred in the former Soviet Union from 1989 to 1994, where low primary immunization rates for children and the lack of booster vaccinations for adults have resulted in an increase from 839 cases in 1989 to nearly 50,000 cases and 1,700 deaths in 1994. There have already been at least 20 imported cases in Europe and two cases in U.S. citizens working in the former Soviet Union.

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