to show us what is moral and what is not. Honestly don't you think we would know that you shouldn't rape someone or kill for fun, or hurt a child etc on our own with out needing to be told. I have often heard the argument against atheism that if you do not have a god you do not have any guidelines moral. It is time people realize that this is bull. Also how do you explain that people were just as moral and amoral as they are today before they were allowed to read the bible.