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Public Schooling is a form of `Welfare'

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I don't personally care who qualifies for FS, and I don't know too much about it, either.  I do know that there is a lot of FS haters on this site whom find no good reason for anyone to ever receive any type of assistance. 

 It got me thinking..........

Public Schooling is a `freebie' too.  Sure. you can say you pay taxes, but those taxes we pay are apparently going to every `public' program in some way, shape or form. When you opt to send your child to a public school anywhere in this country than I'd say you pretty much gave up your right to bitch about families on PA because your child is receiving a `free education'.   I would think that most people would want more for their children than a public school education.  College is NOT the only form of edu that parents should be required to pony up their dollars for. 

(And, no, my children do not attend public school.)

by on Oct. 6, 2012 at 10:30 PM
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LovelyBugs
by on Oct. 8, 2012 at 5:44 PM

nope public school in Ks (or at least the town I lived in) it is not free..public schools there have a registration fee, it cost $207 to send my kiddos to school

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Oct. 8, 2012 at 5:49 PM

You compare public school to welfare???

   LOL!!!!

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Oct. 8, 2012 at 5:54 PM


Quoting ElitestJen:


Quoting Anonymous:

Are you going to tell me what your property taxes are or are you going to continue to avoid the question so that you don't have to admit that you take government assistance to send your children to school?  Considering you are not paying, on average, $11,000 per student, per year, for your children to go to school, it's a pretty valid question.  You don't pay that per year with all of your taxes, per child.  Why does it hurt you so bad to admit you don't provide your child's education?  Is it because you can't complain about others on PA?  Why don't you homeschool?  

Fucking moron.  I think you need to do a little research before answering.

LOL  No, I'm not paying $11,000k per student.  Neither is the school. Not even close.  Since you think you know so much about me, you should know what state I live in and what the average per pupil spending is here. 

I did homeschool for a while (while continuing to pay taxes).  I also have another child in private school. 

What is it that you said is supposed to hurt me? 

The school doesn't pay the money, the money is paid to the school.  You do not provide your child's education.  

You know, I have seen enough of your posts to know what kind of person you are.  You troll PA posts so that you can look down you nose at other people.  When someone points out the flaw in your "logic", you talk in circles to try to take the attention off of yourself and confuse the other person.  You have not answered my question.  You have not even come close.  If you weren't willing to, you should have skipped my post.  Now I am left thinking you are just a judgemental person who has nothing better to do with her time.  You're a liar and I am done with you.  

ElitestJen
by on Oct. 8, 2012 at 5:59 PM
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What have I lied about? Oh...right, nothing that you can prove. You like hurling unfounded accusations? Hey! You're like Harry Reid! You go girl!

I haven't talked in circles. Just because you want incomplete information (that is none of your business), you hurl more accusations. LOL. Bless your heart.


Quoting Anonymous:



Quoting ElitestJen:



Quoting Anonymous:

Are you going to tell me what your property taxes are or are you going to continue to avoid the question so that you don't have to admit that you take government assistance to send your children to school?  Considering you are not paying, on average, $11,000 per student, per year, for your children to go to school, it's a pretty valid question.  You don't pay that per year with all of your taxes, per child.  Why does it hurt you so bad to admit you don't provide your child's education?  Is it because you can't complain about others on PA?  Why don't you homeschool?  

Fucking moron.  I think you need to do a little research before answering.

LOL  No, I'm not paying $11,000k per student.  Neither is the school. Not even close.  Since you think you know so much about me, you should know what state I live in and what the average per pupil spending is here. 

I did homeschool for a while (while continuing to pay taxes).  I also have another child in private school. 

What is it that you said is supposed to hurt me? 

The school doesn't pay the money, the money is paid to the school.  You do not provide your child's education.  

You know, I have seen enough of your posts to know what kind of person you are.  You troll PA posts so that you can look down you nose at other people.  When someone points out the flaw in your "logic", you talk in circles to try to take the attention off of yourself and confuse the other person.  You have not answered my question.  You have not even come close.  If you weren't willing to, you should have skipped my post.  Now I am left thinking you are just a judgemental person who has nothing better to do with her time.  You're a liar and I am done with you.  


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by Anonymous on Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:11 PM


Quoting Anonymous:

 I agree with the majority of your post... just curious, what income brackets disqualify one from attending public school?  I understand people of certain incomes provide a private school education, but never heard they were ineligible to receive a public school education. 

Quoting booklover74:

Public schools are a form of an entitlement program. The majority of people will never want to believe that and lots of people think states must have public schools. They are free to everyone within certain brackets, are paid for with public money and aren't something you have to pay back. That is the basic definition that seems to fit entitlement programs. Medicare opperates that way, food stamps opperate that way, pell grants opperate that way,  I'm sure other things that people consider welfare or entitlement programs opperate that way as well.

Public education is  a states right. it's been less than 100 years since all states even had a public education system.  The federal government has no authority over public education to tell states you must offer a public education system. States have chosen to for the betterment of the population, like they do roads and jails and such. It isn't a public right for a state to offer a public education system though. The only way it would become a right iis through federal law or constitution. Federal courts rulled, long ago, that public education was strictly a states right not a federal one. States can chose to have one or not.  

 

 


My pediatricians kids go to school with my kids.  And their Godfather (who has in excess of 20 million dollars also sends his kids to public schools-so what is the income cut off where your kids can't attend? I know it's over 160K..and 275K...so what is it?

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:16 PM


Quoting Anonymous:

 

Quoting ElitestJen:

 

Quoting Anonymous:

 

Quoting ElitestJen:

 

Quoting Anonymous:

Ummm, did I mention federal or state taxes?  Are you having issues with reading comprehension again, sweetie?  I asked about property taxes on the home you live in.  And no, you don't pay 3 or 4 times that anyway.  I call liar.  You talk way too much about how much money you supposedly have to actually have any.  People with money don't talk about it unless they are low class.  So which are you?  Low income or low class?

 

Really?  Find one reply where I've stated how much money I have.  Go ahead.  I'll wait.  I've never answered a single post asking what our income is and I've never stated how much money we have.  In fact, I've corrected people when they said we were rich.  LOL  

 

Oh, please.  You pay how much in taxes per year?  What do you think that points to?  Are you really that stupid or do you just think the rest of us are?

How about addressing the first part of my reply or did you forget about it?

LOL   Since you asked, I think the rest of you are. 

And, do you really think property taxes are the only funds to education?  See?  I told you it wasn't me that was stupid. 

Are you going to tell me what your property taxes are or are you going to continue to avoid the question so that you don't have to admit that you take government assistance to send your children to school?  Considering you are not paying, on average, $11,000 per student, per year, for your children to go to school, it's a pretty valid question.  You don't pay that per year with all of your taxes, per child.  Why does it hurt you so bad to admit you don't provide your child's education?  Is it because you can't complain about others on PA?  Why don't you homeschool?  

Fucking moron.  I think you need to do a little research before answering.

That's not how it works. I have 4 kids. I paid in before they were born, and will pay in after they get out of school. So it isn't a year to year thing.  My parents paid property taxes from 1962-and continue to pay them. So that is 50 years of property taxes to cover 2 kids educations.  Since at one point they were paying $15K a year, and they have now owned TWO houses worth in excess of a million dollars, they clearly DID pay their fair share (and more)

AND YOU LEFT OUT THE OTHER QUALIFIER FOR PA-IT MUST BE MEANS TESTED.

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:24 PM


Quoting Anonymous:

Does anyone on here pay, on one property, that they live in, $3,000 to $5,000 a year on homeowner's taxes (sorry, rent does not count)?  That is the average price for one year of private school, per child.  I'd say the assistance received on public school tuition definitely counts as a form of government assistance.

I pay $6000. Private schools in my area start at about $15K.   And anyone who lives in my town-millionaire or pauper can use the public schools-making them NOT a form of PA-as they are nOT means tested. I can't believe how stupid some people ar that they can't understnad that concept-TAxpayer funded-AND means tested. If everyone gets it-it's not PA.

fallnangel3
by Bronze Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:27 PM
To my knowledge in my state there is no cutoff. People with better incomes send their kids to private school as a status "thing" around here

Quoting Anonymous:



Quoting Anonymous:


 I agree with the majority of your post... just curious, what income brackets disqualify one from attending public school?  I understand people of certain incomes provide a private school education, but never heard they were ineligible to receive a public school education. 


Quoting booklover74:


Public schools are a form of an entitlement program. The majority of people will never want to believe that and lots of people think states must have public schools. They are free to everyone within certain brackets, are paid for with public money and aren't something you have to pay back. That is the basic definition that seems to fit entitlement programs. Medicare opperates that way, food stamps opperate that way, pell grants opperate that way,  I'm sure other things that people consider welfare or entitlement programs opperate that way as well.


Public education is  a states right. it's been less than 100 years since all states even had a public education system.  The federal government has no authority over public education to tell states you must offer a public education system. States have chosen to for the betterment of the population, like they do roads and jails and such. It isn't a public right for a state to offer a public education system though. The only way it would become a right iis through federal law or constitution. Federal courts rulled, long ago, that public education was strictly a states right not a federal one. States can chose to have one or not.  


 


 



My pediatricians kids go to school with my kids.  And their Godfather (who has in excess of 20 million dollars also sends his kids to public schools-so what is the income cut off where your kids can't attend? I know it's over 160K..and 275K...so what is it?

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fallnangel3
by Bronze Member on Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM
I agree to a point. I consider it more a socialist program/idea than pa. Same as police and fire dept.
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Anonymous
by Anonymous on Oct. 8, 2012 at 8:52 PM


Quoting fallnangel3:

To my knowledge in my state there is no cutoff. People with better incomes send their kids to private school as a status "thing" around here

Quoting Anonymous:

 


Quoting Anonymous:


 I agree with the majority of your post... just curious, what income brackets disqualify one from attending public school?  I understand people of certain incomes provide a private school education, but never heard they were ineligible to receive a public school education. 


Quoting booklover74:


Public schools are a form of an entitlement program. The majority of people will never want to believe that and lots of people think states must have public schools. They are free to everyone within certain brackets, are paid for with public money and aren't something you have to pay back. That is the basic definition that seems to fit entitlement programs. Medicare opperates that way, food stamps opperate that way, pell grants opperate that way,  I'm sure other things that people consider welfare or entitlement programs opperate that way as well.


Public education is  a states right. it's been less than 100 years since all states even had a public education system.  The federal government has no authority over public education to tell states you must offer a public education system. States have chosen to for the betterment of the population, like they do roads and jails and such. It isn't a public right for a state to offer a public education system though. The only way it would become a right iis through federal law or constitution. Federal courts rulled, long ago, that public education was strictly a states right not a federal one. States can chose to have one or not.  


 


 



My pediatricians kids go to school with my kids.  And their Godfather (who has in excess of 20 million dollars also sends his kids to public schools-so what is the income cut off where your kids can't attend? I know it's over 160K..and 275K...so what is it?


Not around here-we pay thru the nose for taxes and have a superior school system.  As I said people with millions of dollars will still use the public system here, as will Dr's kids and Lawyers kids...

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