Big Bird

[Anonymous]

The Annenberg Foundation owns PBS and FactCheck.org and has given Obama quite a bit of money and he sat on their board at one time too.  I find that to be very interesting being very liberal and progressive just like Obama is. Does anyone else find any irony in any of this besides me? Does anyone know anything else about this with unbiased sources?

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[Anonymous - Original Poster]

Quoting Ms.Pteranodon:

Umm then why did PBS come out and say they are non-political and demand that the Obama Campaign pull their latest ad featuring Big Bird?

That's a very good question

[wkukid]

Quoting Ms.Pteranodon:

Honestly I think all the political posts are funny. Most people have their minds made up by now on who they are going to vote for and big bird isn't going to be a deciding factor lol.

[Ms.Pteranodon]

This. Although most states will pick up the funding themselves. 

Quoting raegansmom:

 Frankly, I don't see what the big stink is about Romney saying that we shouldn't borrow money from China to fund PBS?  It's true, we shouldn't!  Why can't PBS get corporate funding or actually BE funded through "viewers like you" as they claim?  Call me crazy, but I think that even on the off chance that cutting their funding from China caused PBS to cease to exist, I think another network would pick up at least the kids shows.  The majority of them are pretty popular!

[Anonymous - Original Poster]

Quoting wkukid:

Quoting Ms.Pteranodon:

Honestly I think all the political posts are funny. Most people have their minds made up by now on who they are going to vote for and big bird isn't going to be a deciding factor lol.

 Yet Obama is spending tons of money on a Big Bird campaign commercial against Romney, that doesn't say very much for him considering we have way more important issues that need to be addressed.

[wkukid]

Quoting Anonymous:

Yes because I didn't see a Obama bashing post supported by Romney on tv just last night.

[quickbooksworm]

I'm not denying ownership of PBS and FC. I'm asking you to prove they are partisan.

And where have I said I'm an Obama supporter? You have no argument regardless of my party affiliation.

Quoting Anonymous:

You can choose to ignore the facts like so many Obama supporters do. The FACTS are that the Annenberg Foundation is very liberal, owns PBS and FactCheck.Org.

Quoting quickbooksworm:

Say it all you want. Doesn't make it true. You are using your opinion as fact and its really just opinion.

Quoting Anonymous:

Who you're voting for is very relevant, that's all I'm going to say.

Quoting quickbooksworm:.

Who I am voting for is irrelevant. Your argument is that a company Obama did work for years ago owns a fact checking website and therefore they are partisan. It would be partisan if they did not point out factual errors of both parties and candidates. How opever, they point out factual errors made by everyone. The same facts can be checked on other sources and come out the same.

Quoting Anonymous:

You must be an Obama surporter, you don't seem to care about any of these sources being called non-partisian when in fact they're not.

Quoting quickbooksworm:

You have no argument. You're just repeating yourself.

Quoting Anonymous:

Because the Annenberg Foundation owns PBS

Quoting quickbooksworm:

Since when is PBS or FC flaming liberals? I watched both conventions on PBS and they really flamed the Democratic party and their speakers while gushing about the Republicans. FC is fact checkers. They check things said in speeches and debates. Its all backed up by... facts that come from all sources. Just because one party or candidate gets caught in more lies doesn't make them partisan.

Quoting Anonymous:

Quoting quickbooksworm:

And? This has never been a secret.

Quoting Anonymous:

Quoting quickbooksworm:

What is there to find irony in? The man had a life long before he was a politician and a presidential candidate. He hasn't donated or served on the board in many years.













FactCheck hasn't been particularly easy on Obama or any of the Democrats so I'm not sure why you think they are liberal.

Because the Annenberg Foundation owns FactCheck.org 

Because they're flaming progressive liberals and since Obama is making such a big deal of Big Bird, I thought I'd mention this and hope Romney brings it up to and his past association with bill Ayers and The Annenberg Foundation.

[Anonymous - Original Poster]

I think you're  confused here, they are NOT bi-partisan, but Liberal and your party affiliation and who you're voting for has everything to do with this that's common sense!

Quoting quickbooksworm:

I'm not denying ownership of PBS and FC. I'm asking you to prove they are partisan.

And where have I said I'm an Obama supporter? You have no argument regardless of my party affiliation.

Quoting Anonymous:

You can choose to ignore the facts like so many Obama supporters do. The FACTS are that the Annenberg Foundation is very liberal, owns PBS and FactCheck.Org.

Quoting quickbooksworm:

Say it all you want. Doesn't make it true. You are using your opinion as fact and its really just opinion.

Quoting Anonymous:

Who you're voting for is very relevant, that's all I'm going to say.

Quoting quickbooksworm:.

Who I am voting for is irrelevant. Your argument is that a company Obama did work for years ago owns a fact checking website and therefore they are partisan. It would be partisan if they did not point out factual errors of both parties and candidates. How opever, they point out factual errors made by everyone. The same facts can be checked on other sources and come out the same.

Quoting Anonymous:

You must be an Obama surporter, you don't seem to care about any of these sources being called non-partisian when in fact they're not.

Quoting quickbooksworm:

You have no argument. You're just repeating yourself.

Quoting Anonymous:

Because the Annenberg Foundation owns PBS

Quoting quickbooksworm:

Since when is PBS or FC flaming liberals? I watched both conventions on PBS and they really flamed the Democratic party and their speakers while gushing about the Republicans. FC is fact checkers. They check things said in speeches and debates. Its all backed up by... facts that come from all sources. Just because one party or candidate gets caught in more lies doesn't make them partisan.

Quoting Anonymous:

Quoting quickbooksworm:

And? This has never been a secret.

Quoting Anonymous:

Quoting quickbooksworm:

What is there to find irony in? The man had a life long before he was a politician and a presidential candidate. He hasn't donated or served on the board in many years.













FactCheck hasn't been particularly easy on Obama or any of the Democrats so I'm not sure why you think they are liberal.

Because the Annenberg Foundation owns FactCheck.org 

Because they're flaming progressive liberals and since Obama is making such a big deal of Big Bird, I thought I'd mention this and hope Romney brings it up to and his past association with bill Ayers and The Annenberg Foundation.

[quickbooksworm]

I'm not the one who is confused. I am simply asking you to prove they are biased and liberal. If it is true, you should he able to provide examples.

Again, my party affiliation has nothing to do with it. Either a soured is biased or not. I can think of plenty of biased news shows and network that lean either way.

Quoting Anonymous:

I think you're  confused here, they are NOT bi-partisan, but Liberal and your party affiliation and who you're voting for has everything to do with this that's common sense!

Quoting quickbooksworm:

I'm not denying ownership of PBS and FC. I'm asking you to prove they are partisan.



And where have I said I'm an Obama supporter? You have no argument regardless of my party affiliation.

Quoting Anonymous:

You can choose to ignore the facts like so many Obama supporters do. The FACTS are that the Annenberg Foundation is very liberal, owns PBS and FactCheck.Org.

Quoting quickbooksworm:

Say it all you want. Doesn't make it true. You are using your opinion as fact and its really just opinion.

Quoting Anonymous:

Who you're voting for is very relevant, that's all I'm going to say.

Quoting quickbooksworm:.

Who I am voting for is irrelevant. Your argument is that a company Obama did work for years ago owns a fact checking website and therefore they are partisan. It would be partisan if they did not point out factual errors of both parties and candidates. How opever, they point out factual errors made by everyone. The same facts can be checked on other sources and come out the same.

Quoting Anonymous:

You must be an Obama surporter, you don't seem to care about any of these sources being called non-partisian when in fact they're not.

Quoting quickbooksworm:

You have no argument. You're just repeating yourself.

Quoting Anonymous:

Because the Annenberg Foundation owns PBS

Quoting quickbooksworm:

Since when is PBS or FC flaming liberals? I watched both conventions on PBS and they really flamed the Democratic party and their speakers while gushing about the Republicans. FC is fact checkers. They check things said in speeches and debates. Its all backed up by... facts that come from all sources. Just because one party or candidate gets caught in more lies doesn't make them partisan.

Quoting Anonymous:

Quoting quickbooksworm:

And? This has never been a secret.

Quoting Anonymous:

Quoting quickbooksworm:

What is there to find irony in? The man had a life long before he was a politician and a presidential candidate. He hasn't donated or served on the board in many years.















FactCheck hasn't been particularly easy on Obama or any of the Democrats so I'm not sure why you think they are liberal.

Because the Annenberg Foundation owns FactCheck.org 

Because they're flaming progressive liberals and since Obama is making such a big deal of Big Bird, I thought I'd mention this and hope Romney brings it up to and his past association with bill Ayers and The Annenberg Foundation.

[Anonymous - Original Poster]

http://theswash.com/liberty/who-fact-checks-factcheck-org

Who Fact Checks FactCheck.org?

Often times, I find myself in arguments with liberal peons and sometimes with blind hardcore conservative nuts. As far as the conservatives go, I pretty much disregard any “fact” (based on faith) that the religious contingent tries to throw my way. As far as the liberals go, I find myself having a hard time just accepting the “facts” that they use as the foundation of their arguments. The reason for my disregarding liberal “facts” is because more often than not, they come from their favorite go-to website, FactCheck.org. That’s cool and all but who the fuck are they? Who has made them the authority? Who the fuck funds them? And most importantly, who the fuck is checking their facts? It’s a fucking website, you may as well just take everything you read on Wikipedia as gospel. Hell, maybe every tweet you read is a short psalm of fact based liberal logic. Maybe every status update on Facebook is an agenda-less piece of liberal law as widely regarded and factual as anything that comes out of the mouths of liberal deities Al Gore and Barack Obama.

On several occasions, I have double checked FactCheck.org after their “facts” have been blindly used by liberals in debates I’ve been a part of. Many of them that I have double checked have been skewed, misrepresented or completely false. Keith Olbermann, probably the biggest douchebag on the planet, has often times referenced information from FactCheck.org and has been found to be wrong. Of course, he’ll deny that and say it’s anti-liberal smear and attack squads that are singling him out and discrediting “facts” because if you don’t agree with his widely distorted and fucked up views, than you are an idiot and a horrible person. Well, not only is Olbermann sucking the FactCheck cock, but so is MSNBC as a whole, well except for Rachel Maddow: she doesn’t like cock (she is a lesbian if you didn’t know, which you probably didn’t because her show gets such shitty ratings).

So what’s the real story behind FactCheck and it’s liberal bias? Who owns it? Well, the answer to that question is the now liberal group, the Annenberg Foundation. The Annenberg Foundation was founded by Walter H. Annenberg, who was at one point a loyal Reagan conservative and diehard Republican. However, Old Walter’s family have changed their tune. Now, the family has close ties to Barack Obama, Bill Ayers and the liberal front in general.

For those who don’t know who Bill Ayers is, do a google search. However, in a nutshell, he led a group of extreme leftists called the Weather Underground (or Weathermen) during the Vietnam War era. His group took credit for bombing the Pentagon, the Capital Building, and the New York City Metro Police Department, as well as over thirty other bombings. Basically, he’s a leftist nutcase psycho fucksack and he’s not in prison.

So how is Obama tied to Ayers and tied to the Annenbergs and thus FactCheck.org?

To start, Ayers was the key founder of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Chicago public school reform project from 1995 to 2001. Upon its start in 1995, Obama was appointed Board Chairman and President of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Geesh, that alone connects all three. Well, it branches out even more from there.

Ayers co-chaired the organization’s Collaborative, which set the education policies of the Challenge. Oddly enough, Obama was the one who was authorized to delegate to the Collaborative in regards to its programs and projects. In addition to that, Obama often times had to seek advice and assistance from the Ayer’s led Collaborative in regards to the programmatic aspects of grant proposals. Ayers even sat on the same board as Obama as an “ex officio member”. They both also sat together on the board of the CAC’s Governance Committee. Obama and Ayers were two parts of a group of four who were instructed to draft the bylaws that would govern the CAC. Keep in mind that the “A” in CAC is for Annenberg, the owners of FactCheck.org. The funding for Ayer’s projects and those of his cronies was approved by Board Chair, Barack Obama. Together, Ayers and Obama guided money to ACORN. Everyone in America should be familiar with the ACORN bullshit, well unless you’re on Olbermann’s cock or you’re off titty-fucking Chris Matthews.

When analyzing the source of FactCheck.org, one has to also take into account that the Annenberg owned site is ran through the Annenberg School for Communication which is a part of the University of Pennsylvania. UPenn, which I am calling it for abbreviation sake, is a liberally biased institution that has had its fair share of controversies in the past. In recent years, they have had several free speech issues, even though they were awarded the highest possible free speech rating by the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.

So, doesn’t all this make FactCheck.org, the Annenberg owned company, at least a little bit biased towards the left? When the issue of Obama’s birth certificate came up, FactCheck.org nipped it in the bud before it had the chance to truly become a scandal. They denied that the birth certificate was even an issue and Obama turned to them to “prove” that his birth certificate was legitimate. Clueless Americans and biased media outlets accepted the “proof” because, well.. it came from a website that no one knows much about. I’ve heard of faith in God, faith in man, faith in one’s self but never have I heard of faith in a mysterious website. I guess people just need something to believe in and Kool-Aid is tasty.

Now I am not a so-called “birther” but I do not trust FactCheck.org’s findings and facts to be authentic. The birth certificate issue is just the tip of the iceberg. Their bias towards the left and especially Obama is obvious to anyone with half a brain cell. They demonize Republican politicians much more so than the Democratic ones. Every questionable thing Obama does is seemingly justified and logical if you reference FactCheck. While the often times common sense approach of libertarians and some in the GOP is stripped down and made to look like pipe dreams and idiotic wishful and naive thinking.

So when it comes down to it, FactCheck.org’s power and legitimacy comes from “We the People”. Perception is king and if you perceive their “facts” to be facts, well then, in you’re mind, they are facts. Unfortunately, the internet has made people lazy. People no longer question things and look for the answers and the facts for themselves. They just do a google search and take either the first thing that pops up or they take the version that best suits their needs or what they already believe or perceive. But anyway, who the fuck am I? This could all be complete bullshit. You’ll never know though unless you look into it for yourself. In the end, depending upon where you stand, the truth could be anything or it could be nothing. I just tell myself that it’s all lies.

Quoting quickbooksworm:

I'm not the one who is confused. I am simply asking you to prove they are biased and liberal. If it is true, you should he able to provide examples.

Again, my party affiliation has nothing to do with it. Either a soured is biased or not. I can think of plenty of biased news shows and network that lean either way.

Quoting Anonymous:

I think you're  confused here, they are NOT bi-partisan, but Liberal and your party affiliation and who you're voting for has everything to do with this that's common sense!

Quoting quickbooksworm:

I'm not denying ownership of PBS and FC. I'm asking you to prove they are partisan.



And where have I said I'm an Obama supporter? You have no argument regardless of my party affiliation.

Quoting Anonymous:

You can choose to ignore the facts like so many Obama supporters do. The FACTS are that the Annenberg Foundation is very liberal, owns PBS and FactCheck.Org.

Quoting quickbooksworm:

Say it all you want. Doesn't make it true. You are using your opinion as fact and its really just opinion.

Quoting Anonymous:

Who you're voting for is very relevant, that's all I'm going to say.

Quoting quickbooksworm:.

Who I am voting for is irrelevant. Your argument is that a company Obama did work for years ago owns a fact checking website and therefore they are partisan. It would be partisan if they did not point out factual errors of both parties and candidates. How opever, they point out factual errors made by everyone. The same facts can be checked on other sources and come out the same.

Quoting Anonymous:

You must be an Obama surporter, you don't seem to care about any of these sources being called non-partisian when in fact they're not.

Quoting quickbooksworm:

You have no argument. You're just repeating yourself.

Quoting Anonymous:

Because the Annenberg Foundation owns PBS

Quoting quickbooksworm:

Since when is PBS or FC flaming liberals? I watched both conventions on PBS and they really flamed the Democratic party and their speakers while gushing about the Republicans. FC is fact checkers. They check things said in speeches and debates. Its all backed up by... facts that come from all sources. Just because one party or candidate gets caught in more lies doesn't make them partisan.

Quoting Anonymous:

Quoting quickbooksworm:

And? This has never been a secret.

Quoting Anonymous:

Quoting quickbooksworm:

What is there to find irony in? The man had a life long before he was a politician and a presidential candidate. He hasn't donated or served on the board in many years.















FactCheck hasn't been particularly easy on Obama or any of the Democrats so I'm not sure why you think they are liberal.

Because the Annenberg Foundation owns FactCheck.org 

Because they're flaming progressive liberals and since Obama is making such a big deal of Big Bird, I thought I'd mention this and hope Romney brings it up to and his past association with bill Ayers and The Annenberg Foundation.

[Anonymous - Original Poster]

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