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Vice President debate

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I thought the debate was terrible, the moderator was a complete idiot and was obviously for Obama. She asked stupid questions about abortion which isn't a main topic, she should been asking questions about the economy. Also Biden was laughing and interrupting nonstop, he completely embarrassed himself. I thought Ryan did good he kept it together. I thought the debate was poorly put together though they shoulda never had that woman be the moderator she was terrible.
Posted by Anonymous on Oct. 12, 2012 at 8:39 AM
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just_hc
by Gold Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 10:22 AM

I saw that.  One of the commentators last night said it well.  To summarize he said if you were to simply read the text it was a tie , if you listened to it on the radio you might say Biden won as he was more outspoken, and if you watched it on TV then Ryan won as he was poised, informed and respectful and Biden appeared rude and disrespectful.


Quoting momof6nokc:

The CNN poll actually has Ryan winning the debate by 48% to 44% (I think those are the exact numbers!)  Anyway, the liberal CNN has Ryan winning it.

Quoting just_hc:

Overall it was a good debate.  I was slightly disappointed in Paul Ryan.  He's a very intelligent man and should have been more aggressive to get his point across.   Biden did better than I expected although he came off as an arrogant jerk who was not taking anything seriously.   It's a pretty even finish.  However Paul Ryan showed a lot more class than Biden.   The after the debate polls were very evenly split.  I feel the Obama campaign had more to lose and old Joe made them look bad.   It really comes down to the independant vote and they will feel he was rude and condesending.  I think although the debate was pretty even in terms of content....the Romney campain comes out ahead in this one.



Anonymous
by Anonymous 6 on Oct. 12, 2012 at 10:29 AM

I heard a lot about the economy, but it is hard talking about it when one side uses math and the other is keeping their answer a secret!  

Quoting Anonymous:

We need to be worried about the economy not about abortion yes it's important but its not a main issue. In the president debate they never talked about abortion so why they did in the Vice President is just stupid.

Quoting fallnangel3:

Actually since Romney and Ryan have made comments on abortion, and what they would like to see done it is an issue


MusicMuse1991
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 10:32 AM

the VP debates aren't really important so they're going to talk about the little stuff.

Quoting Anonymous:

We need to be worried about the economy not about abortion yes it's important but its not a main issue. In the president debate they never talked about abortion so why they did in the Vice President is just stupid.

Quoting fallnangel3:

Actually since Romney and Ryan have made comments on abortion, and what they would like to see done it is an issue


Anonymous
by Anonymous - Original Poster on Oct. 12, 2012 at 10:48 AM
Um they aren't really important?!?! I hope you don't vote period then...

Quoting MusicMuse1991:

the VP debates aren't really important so they're going to talk about the little stuff.


Quoting Anonymous:

We need to be worried about the economy not about abortion yes it's important but its not a main issue. In the president debate they never talked about abortion so why they did in the Vice President is just stupid.



Quoting fallnangel3:

Actually since Romney and Ryan have made comments on abortion, and what they would like to see done it is an issue


AdellesMom
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:03 AM
That is false. Just look at how well RomneyCare is working in Massachusetts.

Nice try.


Quoting momof6nokc:

That's why Obama's Healthcare atrocity is never going to work.

Quoting AdellesMom:

I'm not pregnant. So, no. lol



Outlawing it does take away my choice. That's the truth. Plus, forcing people to do something they don't want to do never works out well.


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AdellesMom
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:05 AM
CNN isn't Liberal. Also, the majority of the people that took that poll were republican.

Quoting momof6nokc:

The CNN poll actually has Ryan winning the debate by 48% to 44% (I think those are the exact numbers!)  Anyway, the liberal CNN has Ryan winning it.

Quoting just_hc:

Overall it was a good debate.  I was slightly disappointed in Paul Ryan.  He's a very intelligent man and should have been more aggressive to get his point across.   Biden did better than I expected although he came off as an arrogant jerk who was not taking anything seriously.   It's a pretty even finish.  However Paul Ryan showed a lot more class than Biden.   The after the debate polls were very evenly split.  I feel the Obama campaign had more to lose and old Joe made them look bad.   It really comes down to the independant vote and they will feel he was rude and condesending.  I think although the debate was pretty even in terms of content....the Romney campain comes out ahead in this one.


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AdellesMom
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Oh, I know what the constitution says. Abortion isn't a state issue. If it was, then Roe v. Wade would be unconstitutional. As it stands, it isn't unconstitutional. Also, states already have a say with abortion because abortion laws vary state by state.

I disagree about the schools. But, I don't send my kids to public school and I never will.


Quoting bmw29:

Schools need lots of help because the federal government has been sticking their nose in it for years. LOL Nothing our federal government has ever touched has not turned into shit.



State rights are protected by the constitution. It really doesn't matter if you agree/disagree with that it's simply fact. Abortion should be a state issue and the people of that state should worry about electing people that will see things their way.




Quoting AdellesMom:

Well, I disagree. The Feds are supposed to step in when states are in over their heads. ;) I don't want people having a say on what I can and cannot do with my body. I don't want it overturned. Also, schools need lots of help. lol





Quoting bmw29:

I agree with him on this issue and I'm not even against abortion. The simple fact is that it never should have been a federal law anyway. Constitutionally this is a state matter that the federal government needs to butt out of. Just like they need to keep their incompetent noses out of schools.







Quoting AdellesMom:

" But while the nation remains so divided, he believes that the right next step is for the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade – a case of blatant judicial activism that took a decision that should be left to the people and placed it in the hands of unelected judges. "









http://www.mittromney.com/issues/values










Quoting hautemama83:

Link it











Quoting AdellesMom:

That's not true. Romney's website says that they'd overturn it, and Ryan said that they'd overturn it if they could last night.













Quoting hautemama83:

They've already said they wouldn't. But aside from that to you honestly believe roe v wade would be turned over after standing for years? What would be the basis for overturning it?
Quoting Sunshinebee0502:

 I'm just curious why do you think they couldn't overturn Roe v. Wade?


Quoting Anonymous:

Abortions are not an issue!!!! They would have a snowballs chance in hell overturning Roe v. Wade. I enjoyed the debate it was lively and much better than the presidental debate.

 

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Sweet_Britt
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:10 AM
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They ARE important, but they were even saying last night, that while it's good to see the VP/VPN in debate and get their stances on the subjects, it RARELY ever actually sways a voter (which is the reason for the debates...to get voters). Generally, the people who tune in already know who they're voting for. So I think thats just when she mean't when she said they aren't important.

However, I will disagree with others who say it's a "little" thing to debate about (abortion). I happen to think it's very important. As well as the war, as well as education. Some people are focusing on only the economic parts of things and thats just crazy to me, especially when I haven't seen ANYTHING to show how Romney/Ryan plan to fix this.



Quoting Anonymous:

Um they aren't really important?!?! I hope you don't vote period then...



Quoting MusicMuse1991:

the VP debates aren't really important so they're going to talk about the little stuff.



Quoting Anonymous:

We need to be worried about the economy not about abortion yes it's important but its not a main issue. In the president debate they never talked about abortion so why they did in the Vice President is just stupid.





Quoting fallnangel3:

Actually since Romney and Ryan have made comments on abortion, and what they would like to see done it is an issue


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AdellesMom
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:15 AM
LOL! My argument isn't weak. You can disagree. But, that doesn't make my argument weak. Nice try at fallacious logic.

I'm not arguing just for myself, I'm arguing for everyone. If Mississippi decided to make abortion illegal (if Romney got his way) then that choice would be taken away from the residents of Mississippi. You're being illogical here.

I mean, who's going to drive all the way across the country for an abortion? Certainly don't know anyone that would, and I think that it's erroneous and just plain dumb to think that it's not feasible to have someone drive across Te country for an abortion.

So, the choice wouldn't be there if Mississippi decided to make abortion illegal. Why is that so hard for you to understand?


Quoting hautemama83:

It takes away *the* choice (since you don't plan on abortion) for who? What's stopping individuals from going elsewhere? Nothing. The choice is still there. Your pro-choice argument is weak.



Quoting AdellesMom:

I'm not pregnant. So, no. lol





Outlawing it does take away my choice. That's the truth. Plus, forcing people to do something they don't want to do never works out well.






Quoting hautemama83:

You plan on aborting?







Outlawing it in one state doesn't take away your choice. The choice is still there, just less accessible.








Quoting AdellesMom:

Because no one should have a say over what I do with my body.









Quoting hautemama83:

Why is that unacceptable?











Quoting AdellesMom:

He wants to overturn it. If it becomes a "voter issue" it's at risk of being outlawed in some states. That's unacceptable.













Quoting hautemama83:

So in other words it should be a voter issue. What's wrong with that?















Quoting AdellesMom:

" But while the nation remains so divided, he believes that the right next step is for the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade – a case of blatant judicial activism that took a decision that should be left to the people and placed it in the hands of unelected judges. "

















http://www.mittromney.com/issues/values


















Quoting hautemama83:

Link it



















Quoting AdellesMom:

That's not true. Romney's website says that they'd overturn it, and Ryan said that they'd overturn it if they could last night.





















Quoting hautemama83:

They've already said they wouldn't. But aside from that to you honestly believe roe v wade would be turned over after standing for years? What would be the basis for overturning it?
Quoting Sunshinebee0502:

 I'm just curious why do you think they couldn't overturn Roe v. Wade?


Quoting Anonymous:

Abortions are not an issue!!!! They would have a snowballs chance in hell overturning Roe v. Wade. I enjoyed the debate it was lively and much better than the presidental debate.

 

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..MoonShine..
by Gold Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Personally, I think they're both idiots. I've not ever been a fan of Biden, and Ryan is just a little weasel, but whatever. Biden behaved the same way that Romney did last week, but somehow HE is a buffoon and a fool, but Romney wasn't. Nope...not at all. LOL *smh* 

In terms of the Roe v. Wade thing...even if they don't attempt to overturn it, they can still pass laws (laws that people will vote for) that make it damn near impossible to have an abortion. Laws like this are already being passed all over the place. It's scary to me. 

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