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Girl kills herself, she and her parents to blame

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The mother of a teenager who died Wednesday of suspected suicide wants her daughter’s anti-cyber-bullying video to be used to help other young people.

Fifteen-year-old Amanda Todd was found dead in a Port Coquitlam home at 6 p.m. Wednesday, five weeks after she posted a heartbreaking video on YouTube detailing how she was harassed online and bullied.

“I think the video should be shared and used as an anti-bullying tool. That is what my daughter would have wanted,” Carol Todd, Amanda’s mother, told The Vancouver Sun in a message on Twitter.

Click here for ways to get help if you or someone you know is experiencing suicidal thoughts

By Friday morning, The Amanda Michelle Todd memorial Facebook page, created shortly after her death, had more than 2,500 "likes." An outpouring of support for the girl's friends and family were posted:

"She is a beautiful young lady. I am in tears over this," wrote Jennifer Fincher, while many other Facebook users said they hoped she was with angels in heaven.

But not all the chatter was positive. Mike Mace, whose own Facebook page says he is a member of the Canadian Military, faced a flurry of shaming comments after he posted a negative comment mocking her death.

In the comment, he suggests that it's not the bully's fault that she showed her breasts and gave out her private information on the Internet.

"You should be ashamed of yourself," wrote Amber Garofano, while another woman Ashley Soucy posted, "have a heart."

The tragedy has sparked much discussion online about cyber-bullying and what can be done to eradicate the problem.

The Vancouver Sun is joining in on that discussion. The Sun is hosting a day of dialogue on bullying at 1 p.m. and 4 p.m. on Facebook. Visit www.facebook.com/VancouverSun to join the talk.

Click here for more photos of Amanda Todd

In September, Amanda posted a video to YouTube entitled My Story: Struggling, bullying, suicide and self harm.

In it Amanda does not speak, but instead holds up to the camera pieces of paper on which she has printed her story, one phrase at a time. She documents a painful tale of being harassed through Facebook and shunned at school, leaving her feeling alone and suicidal.

It started in Grade 8, when an embarrassing photo was circulated to her relatives, friends and schoolmates. Amanda switched schools, but the bullying continued.

“I can never get that photo back,” she writes.

Later, she was confronted by a group of teens in front of her new school and beaten up, an attack that was filmed. Despondent, Amanda went home and drank bleach.

Her harassers posted photos of bleach and commented that they wished she was dead.

Near the end of the video, she writes: “Every day I think why am I still here? ... I have nobody. I need someone.”

In a message accompanying the video post, Amanda added: “I’m not doing this (video) for attention. I’m doing this to be an inspiration and to show that I can be strong.”

Premier Christy Clark posted a short video on YouTube Thursday sending her sympathies to Amanda’s family.

“I want to say to everyone who loved her, to all her family and friends, how sorry I am about her loss,” Clark — who spearheaded a ‘Pink Shirt Day’ anti-bullying campaign while she was a radio host — says in the video.

“No one deserves to be bullied. No one earns it. No one asks for it. It isn’t a rite of passage.

“Bullying has to stop.”

Click here for ways to get help if you or someone you know is experiencing suicidal thoughts

In 2008, the B.C. government declared an annual anti-bullying day, and Clark has advanced anti-bullying initiatives since becoming premier.

Amanda was a former cheerleader with the Vancouver All Stars squad based in her hometown of Port Coquitlam. She attended school there until the middle of Grade 8, when she moved to a Maple Ridge school. In February, she transferred to Coquitlam Alternate Basic Education (CABE) in Coquitlam.

Students and staff at Amanda’s school were grieving her death Thursday.

“It is a very sad case,” said Paul McNaughton, principal of CABE, where Amanda was in Grade 10.

“She was quite connected here. The staff and the students here are very much impacted. She had some very strong ties in the school and to staff in the school.

“I can tell you we feel we tried everything we could to help her when she came to us.”

In her video, Amanda says she moved schools in a futile attempt to escape her bullies.

Spokeswomen for the Maple Ridge and Coquitlam school districts would not discuss the case directly, but both said their districts take action when they receive bullying complaints.

Grief counsellors were speaking to students in both districts Thursday.

Dr. Tyler Black, a child and adolescent psychiatrist at B.C. Children’s Hospital, said the reasons people commit suicide are often very complex. He urged parents, educators and youth at risk of suicide to realize there is help through options such as www.youthinbc.com or 1-800-SUICIDE.

“The message is there are professionals there, there are people out there who can help.”

On a positive note, Black added, suicide among youth aged 10 to 24 dropped 25 per cent from 2000 to 2009.

Amanda joined YouTube on Sept. 6 and posted her video Sept. 7.

On Sept. 7, Amanda also uploaded a slide-show presentation called Cyber Bullying on Prezi.com, in which she gives advice on how to deal with such harassment.

In what could turn out to be her own very sad legacy, Amanda urged people to stand up to bullies and help victims:

“If you see that someone is being bullied, don’t be afraid to tell the bully to stop doing what they are doing. Make sure to tell them that it’s wrong and that they shouldn’t bully other kids.”

Amanda told parents “to always give your child emotional support” and to help them if they are being bullied.

B.C.’s education ministry announced last month that it will spend $2 million on a strategy called ERASE Bullying. The strategy includes a confidential online bullying reporting service that will allow students, school staff, parents and members of the public to make anonymous reports about potential or actual cases of school bullying and violence.

“My thoughts and prayers go to her family, I cannot even begin to imagine what they are going through. High school is supposed to be the best time of your life, not one where you fear for yourself every day. No one should have to feel the way she did,” wrote Breanna Lockhart Collins. “She was a beautiful young girl who went way too soon.”

In a post on its Facebook page, G Force Gym — home of the Vancouver All Stars cheerleaders — wrote:

“Today we feel the loss of our former VAS family member Amanda ... I ask that we all watch her video and share her story so that her loss is not in vain. Allow this to be her legacy ... Allow us all to look around & find the next Amanda before another precious spunky teenager is lost.”

Amanda’s video echoed another similar online story entitled My Story: Suicide and Bullying, which had been uploaded by Mollydoyle18 on YouTube. Commenting on Amanda’s video, Molly posted Wednesday:

“Rest in peace and fly high to Amanda Todd. I was just messaging her about almost a week ago, and I just found out that she has taken her life. She was asking me about how to be an inspiration to others and to get her video more views, and now I have found out that she has passed away ... This is a terrible tragedy. I wish she could have had her happy ending.

With files from Mike Hager

gshaw@vancouversun.com

lculbert@vancouversun.com

Click here to see more photos of Amanda Todd

Click here for ways to get help if you or someone you know is experiencing suicidal thoughts
Posted by Anonymous on Oct. 12, 2012 at 1:08 PM
Replies (81-83):
priincessz
by Silver Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM
That's fucked up for real. It's also the guys fault for even messing with her and letting her do all that shit with him. The girlfriend should blame her "innocent" boyfriend too.

Quoting a-SiZZLe:

IF SHE NEVER FLASHED HER TITS ALL OVER THE INTERNET FOR SOME RANDOM GUY THIS WOULD OF NEVER HAPPENED. IF SHE NEVER FUCKED SOME CHICKS BOYFRIEND THIS SHIT WOULDN'T OF HAPPENED. SEE THE PATTERN ? SHE MADE FUCKED UP DECISIONS AND COULDN'T DEAL WITH THE OUTCOME. 

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, guess what ? It's a duck. 

If an adult did this guess what ?  She would be a whore. And everyone would tell her. I have seen it here on CM. Just like you said we see it here everyday on this site. 

A 15 year old girl does it and everyone in Canada and the United States goes crazy because people called her on what she. But I forgot, because it was other kids they are bullies. Oh and because her parents couldn't/didn't/wouldn't do more she decided to kill herself. Kids have to stop looking at suicide as the answer to all of lifes problems and learn how to cope in other ways.

 

Quoting MusicMuse1991:

i don't give a flying fuck if she fucked a guy upside down on the internet, she still did not deserve this bullshit.

what bitch up here hasn't flashed their tits before? don't fucking lie, either, half of you are always in a "show me your boobs" thread

and what about all these posts about "i'm cheating on my husband" or "i'm fucking a married man". all day everyday in this goddamned forum and you tricks think it's okay to judge a child for this? hell to the no, it's not okay, and it never will be okay. the child is DEAD and they are STILL fucking with her in death. you bitches would be singing a different tune if that was your fucking kid who had to go through that

and don't give me the bullshit about how your child would NEVER do this. because you're wrong. all kids could do the very same thing, so this is why most of you need to get off this stupid ass site and watch your fucking kids! quit judging the dead girl and start changing yourselves. because us as parents have responsibility in something like this because their parents made them the way they are, nothing but cowardly bitch ass bullies who have their own insecurities and took it out on a girl who made a mistake.


Quoting eve210:

This exactly.



Quoting sophiasmommy27:

probably not a very popular opinion but this. *shrugs*


I mean it's not like those kids woke up and singled her out. I mean had she not had her tits all over the Internet and slept with another girls boyfriend, there's a very good chance that this wouldn't have happened. blame should be placed on both sides. but let's be honest here, in high school if you caught your boyfriend cheating on you or whatever you got all your friends together and bitched out the girl. I mean it's high school they're immature. simple.


I just think blame should be placed on both sides. not just on the "bullies"







Quoting a-SiZZLe:

Are we forgetting that this girl was into drugs and alcohol and slept/"hooked up" with another girls boyfriend ? This isnt a simple case of kids not liking a girl for no reason at all. She seems to make a lot of mistakes and she can't deal with the outcome. Maybe we should quit pointing fingers at the bullies and take a look at Amanda Todd a little closer.





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a-SiZZLe
by Bronze Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM

She could of said no at any time. She did not have to flash the camera. She did not have to be with a guy. I agree what the guys did was not right, but she could have also said NO. 

Quoting priincessz:

That's fucked up for real. It's also the guys fault for even messing with her and letting her do all that shit with him. The girlfriend should blame her "innocent" boyfriend too.

Quoting a-SiZZLe:

IF SHE NEVER FLASHED HER TITS ALL OVER THE INTERNET FOR SOME RANDOM GUY THIS WOULD OF NEVER HAPPENED. IF SHE NEVER FUCKED SOME CHICKS BOYFRIEND THIS SHIT WOULDN'T OF HAPPENED. SEE THE PATTERN ? SHE MADE FUCKED UP DECISIONS AND COULDN'T DEAL WITH THE OUTCOME. 

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, guess what ? It's a duck. 

If an adult did this guess what ?  She would be a whore. And everyone would tell her. I have seen it here on CM. Just like you said we see it here everyday on this site. 

A 15 year old girl does it and everyone in Canada and the United States goes crazy because people called her on what she. But I forgot, because it was other kids they are bullies. Oh and because her parents couldn't/didn't/wouldn't do more she decided to kill herself. Kids have to stop looking at suicide as the answer to all of lifes problems and learn how to cope in other ways.

 

Quoting MusicMuse1991:

i don't give a flying fuck if she fucked a guy upside down on the internet, she still did not deserve this bullshit.

what bitch up here hasn't flashed their tits before? don't fucking lie, either, half of you are always in a "show me your boobs" thread

and what about all these posts about "i'm cheating on my husband" or "i'm fucking a married man". all day everyday in this goddamned forum and you tricks think it's okay to judge a child for this? hell to the no, it's not okay, and it never will be okay. the child is DEAD and they are STILL fucking with her in death. you bitches would be singing a different tune if that was your fucking kid who had to go through that

and don't give me the bullshit about how your child would NEVER do this. because you're wrong. all kids could do the very same thing, so this is why most of you need to get off this stupid ass site and watch your fucking kids! quit judging the dead girl and start changing yourselves. because us as parents have responsibility in something like this because their parents made them the way they are, nothing but cowardly bitch ass bullies who have their own insecurities and took it out on a girl who made a mistake.


Quoting eve210:

This exactly.



Quoting sophiasmommy27:

probably not a very popular opinion but this. *shrugs*


I mean it's not like those kids woke up and singled her out. I mean had she not had her tits all over the Internet and slept with another girls boyfriend, there's a very good chance that this wouldn't have happened. blame should be placed on both sides. but let's be honest here, in high school if you caught your boyfriend cheating on you or whatever you got all your friends together and bitched out the girl. I mean it's high school they're immature. simple.


I just think blame should be placed on both sides. not just on the "bullies"







Quoting a-SiZZLe:

Are we forgetting that this girl was into drugs and alcohol and slept/"hooked up" with another girls boyfriend ? This isnt a simple case of kids not liking a girl for no reason at all. She seems to make a lot of mistakes and she can't deal with the outcome. Maybe we should quit pointing fingers at the bullies and take a look at Amanda Todd a little closer.






priincessz
by Silver Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 9:40 PM
They both could've said NO! It's both their faults!

Quoting a-SiZZLe:

She could of said no at any time. She did not have to flash the camera. She did not have to be with a guy. I agree what the guys did was not right, but she could have also said NO. 

Quoting priincessz:

That's fucked up for real. It's also the guys fault for even messing with her and letting her do all that shit with him. The girlfriend should blame her "innocent" boyfriend too.



Quoting a-SiZZLe:

IF SHE NEVER FLASHED HER TITS ALL OVER THE INTERNET FOR SOME RANDOM GUY THIS WOULD OF NEVER HAPPENED. IF SHE NEVER FUCKED SOME CHICKS BOYFRIEND THIS SHIT WOULDN'T OF HAPPENED. SEE THE PATTERN ? SHE MADE FUCKED UP DECISIONS AND COULDN'T DEAL WITH THE OUTCOME. 

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, guess what ? It's a duck. 

If an adult did this guess what ?  She would be a whore. And everyone would tell her. I have seen it here on CM. Just like you said we see it here everyday on this site. 

A 15 year old girl does it and everyone in Canada and the United States goes crazy because people called her on what she. But I forgot, because it was other kids they are bullies. Oh and because her parents couldn't/didn't/wouldn't do more she decided to kill herself. Kids have to stop looking at suicide as the answer to all of lifes problems and learn how to cope in other ways.

 

Quoting MusicMuse1991:

i don't give a flying fuck if she fucked a guy upside down on the internet, she still did not deserve this bullshit.

what bitch up here hasn't flashed their tits before? don't fucking lie, either, half of you are always in a "show me your boobs" thread

and what about all these posts about "i'm cheating on my husband" or "i'm fucking a married man". all day everyday in this goddamned forum and you tricks think it's okay to judge a child for this? hell to the no, it's not okay, and it never will be okay. the child is DEAD and they are STILL fucking with her in death. you bitches would be singing a different tune if that was your fucking kid who had to go through that

and don't give me the bullshit about how your child would NEVER do this. because you're wrong. all kids could do the very same thing, so this is why most of you need to get off this stupid ass site and watch your fucking kids! quit judging the dead girl and start changing yourselves. because us as parents have responsibility in something like this because their parents made them the way they are, nothing but cowardly bitch ass bullies who have their own insecurities and took it out on a girl who made a mistake.



Quoting eve210:

This exactly.





Quoting sophiasmommy27:

probably not a very popular opinion but this. *shrugs*



I mean it's not like those kids woke up and singled her out. I mean had she not had her tits all over the Internet and slept with another girls boyfriend, there's a very good chance that this wouldn't have happened. blame should be placed on both sides. but let's be honest here, in high school if you caught your boyfriend cheating on you or whatever you got all your friends together and bitched out the girl. I mean it's high school they're immature. simple.



I just think blame should be placed on both sides. not just on the "bullies"










Quoting a-SiZZLe:

Are we forgetting that this girl was into drugs and alcohol and slept/"hooked up" with another girls boyfriend ? This isnt a simple case of kids not liking a girl for no reason at all. She seems to make a lot of mistakes and she can't deal with the outcome. Maybe we should quit pointing fingers at the bullies and take a look at Amanda Todd a little closer.







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