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School punishment debate...

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This is raging across my fb page. Apparently there is a teacher at my son's middle school that is doing creative punishments. Instead of paddling or ISS he is having the students get down in the push-up position and staying that way for a determined amount of time. It has been stated on my fb up to 30 mins in some cases. Parents are trying to get him kicked out of school for this because they see it has degrading, embarrassing and a form of bullying. Some of the parents that are trying to get him thrown out have kids that had to do this punishment and the kids stated they would never do it again. So it works and better than paddling. I see kids that laugh about the fact they got paddled.

So I was wondering what are people's opinion? Was the teacher's punishment a good alternative to paddling? Why or Why not?

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by on Oct. 25, 2012 at 6:42 AM
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stefvan
by on Oct. 25, 2012 at 10:30 AM

 I disagree completely with that teacher's punishments.  I did see a coach make a girl give her 5 push ups for back talk - it was in PE class and just 5 so fine.  And, I would never send my kids to any school that paddles.  That is a parents job - not anyone else's in my opinion.

Heather.Rose
by on Oct. 25, 2012 at 10:30 AM

I dare someone to paddle my child. But as a vet I know what it is like to stay in that position for a prolonged amount of time and it is not as easy as people may think. They can contact me and let me know of the situation and I will deal with it or they can send my child to the office.

Nicoleb9
by Emerald Member on Oct. 25, 2012 at 10:31 AM
Absolutely.


Quoting BelleVernonGirl:

They still paddle in school.  You have to sign a paper saying if you allow or not.  I always said they have my kids 7 hours a day and they need to do what they need to do to keep order.  My kids never had a problem in school b/c they knew they would be paddled in school then had their ass kicked when they got home...Never a problem...EVER.


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Anonymous
by Anonymous 13 on Oct. 25, 2012 at 10:32 AM
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I also worked for a preschool while going to college.  We had several parents who would march into school to spank their own child.  One I can remember was a RN at a local hospital (educated) the other was a teacher (educated)

Yes, there use to be a philosophy of "believe the teacher first, listen to the child 2nd)  now its more like "believe the kid, screw the teacher"  So let me tell you what happens when this occurs.  Kids KNOW teachers have no ground to hold...so they run wild.  Then parents gripe b/c their kids arent learning, then they gripe b/c they end up in jail.  Guess what...hold your kids accountable for their actions!  They will be better for it!

Quoting Anonymous:

I have a bachelors in education, working on my masters. My husband is a high school principal who has a bachelors, educational specialists, 2 masters and working on PHD in Education.  We both believe in school paddlings.

We live in Alabama and parents ask for their kids to be paddled if they misbehave! 

Quoting honeyrder:


Quoting Anonymous:

Quoting BelleVernonGirl:

They still paddle in school.  You have to sign a paper saying if you allow or not.  I always said they have my kids 7 hours a day and they need to do what they need to do to keep order.  My kids never had a problem in school b/c they knew they would be paddled in school then had their ass kicked when they got home...Never a problem...EVER.




You must live in the south where the mentality and culture seem to be much more punitive and violent.. Basically the child is always wrong and the adult is right because the adult is in a position of authority. If paddling is effective where are the empirical studies? The reasearch? Why are minority children, males and thosr with a diagnosed learning disability more likely to receive corporal punishment? How is that fair? If it is safe why are thousands of children treated in emergency rooms every year after they were paddled in school? I have never met one well educated, informed parent who was in favor of corporal punishment in schools. If I saw a parent marching into school to spank a child, I would be horrified.

I have a master's degree in education (adult), and I am for it, and starting it early! lol

 


stefvan
by on Oct. 25, 2012 at 10:34 AM

 My husband is from Alabama.  He says it's a good place to be from - far away from.

I have 2 degrees, also.  But, no one has permission to spank my children, except my parents and they wouldn't..  And, we do spank but that is a parent's job not a teachers.

Quoting Anonymous:

I have a bachelors in education, working on my masters. My husband is a high school principal who has a bachelors, educational specialists, 2 masters and working on PHD in Education.  We both believe in school paddlings.

We live in Alabama and parents ask for their kids to be paddled if they misbehave! 




 



Nicoleb9
by Emerald Member on Oct. 25, 2012 at 10:35 AM
That's what my husband and I did with all four of ours. We've never once received a single complaint from the school about their behavior, either. My oldest DD is 15 and she doesn't even attempt any disrespect at all. No sassing, no back talk, no arguing, no stomping, no slamming doors, nothing. Same with the other three. We put the fear of god in them young enough that they never bother with misbehavior.


Quoting honeyrder:


Quoting Anonymous:

Quoting BelleVernonGirl:

They still paddle in school.  You have to sign a paper saying if you allow or not.  I always said they have my kids 7 hours a day and they need to do what they need to do to keep order.  My kids never had a problem in school b/c they knew they would be paddled in school then had their ass kicked when they got home...Never a problem...EVER.






You must live in the south where the mentality and culture seem to be much more punitive and violent.. Basically the child is always wrong and the adult is right because the adult is in a position of authority. If paddling is effective where are the empirical studies? The reasearch? Why are minority children, males and thosr with a diagnosed learning disability more likely to receive corporal punishment? How is that fair? If it is safe why are thousands of children treated in emergency rooms every year after they were paddled in school? I have never met one well educated, informed parent who was in favor of corporal punishment in schools. If I saw a parent marching into school to spank a child, I would be horrified.

I have a master's degree in education (adult), and I am for it, and starting it early! lol


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Anonymous
by Anonymous 13 on Oct. 25, 2012 at 10:37 AM
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This mind set is WHY kids are out of control.  Parents have taken away teachers authority.  So, does a police officer have the right to pull over your 16 year old and take him to jail or cuff him or whatever if he is out of control?

My kids are taught that teachers have authority...and if you dont behave they will punish you.  Whatever they feel fits the situation. 

And Alabama rocks.

Quoting stefvan:

 My husband is from Alabama.  He says it's a good place to be from - far away from.

I have 2 degrees, also.  But, no one has permission to spank my children, except my parents and they wouldn't..  And, we do spank but that is a parent's job not a teachers.

Quoting Anonymous:

I have a bachelors in education, working on my masters. My husband is a high school principal who has a bachelors, educational specialists, 2 masters and working on PHD in Education.  We both believe in school paddlings.

We live in Alabama and parents ask for their kids to be paddled if they misbehave! 


honeyrder
by Platinum Member on Oct. 25, 2012 at 10:37 AM


Quoting Anonymous:

Quoting honeyrder:




I am very grateful that the children I work with and my own two daughters will never have you as a teacher, you have a Masters Degree in Education but you have no knowledge of healthy child development. My goodness...this is why they should rethink online degrees!!

For fuck's sake, learn to read!



stefvan
by on Oct. 25, 2012 at 10:40 AM

 Teacher should never have had the authority to strike a child. That is parental authority. They can discipline in other ways.  My kids know if they get in trouble at school, they will get in trouble at home.  They aren't out of control.  They are well behaved and honor students.

 

Quoting Anonymous:

This mind set is WHY kids are out of control.  Parents have taken away teachers authority.  So, does a police officer have the right to pull over your 16 year old and take him to jail or cuff him or whatever if he is out of control?

My kids are taught that teachers have authority...and if you dont behave they will punish you.  Whatever they feel fits the situation. 

And Alabama rocks.

Quoting stefvan:

 My husband is from Alabama.  He says it's a good place to be from - far away from.

I have 2 degrees, also.  But, no one has permission to spank my children, except my parents and they wouldn't..  And, we do spank but that is a parent's job not a teachers.

Quoting Anonymous:

I have a bachelors in education, working on my masters. My husband is a high school principal who has a bachelors, educational specialists, 2 masters and working on PHD in Education.  We both believe in school paddlings.

We live in Alabama and parents ask for their kids to be paddled if they misbehave! 

 

 




 



Anonymous
by Anonymous 13 on Oct. 25, 2012 at 10:43 AM

You are very nieve and have never actually been in a classroom as a teacher.

Yes there are students where you can sent home a note and the parents will handle it better than any teacher can. But MOST STUDENTS have lazy parents who give their child a tiny slap on the wrist...if they even give that, and the student learns they can get away with anything.

Teachers MUST be given some authority or they will not have control of their students!

What about the police officer question?

Quoting stefvan:

 Teacher should never have had the authority to strike a child. That is parental authority. They can discipline in other ways.  My kids know if they get in trouble at school, they will get in trouble at home.  They aren't out of control.  They are well behaved and honor students.

 

Quoting Anonymous:

This mind set is WHY kids are out of control.  Parents have taken away teachers authority.  So, does a police officer have the right to pull over your 16 year old and take him to jail or cuff him or whatever if he is out of control?

My kids are taught that teachers have authority...and if you dont behave they will punish you.  Whatever they feel fits the situation. 

And Alabama rocks.

Quoting stefvan:

 My husband is from Alabama.  He says it's a good place to be from - far away from.

I have 2 degrees, also.  But, no one has permission to spank my children, except my parents and they wouldn't..  And, we do spank but that is a parent's job not a teachers.

Quoting Anonymous:

I have a bachelors in education, working on my masters. My husband is a high school principal who has a bachelors, educational specialists, 2 masters and working on PHD in Education.  We both believe in school paddlings.

We live in Alabama and parents ask for their kids to be paddled if they misbehave! 

 

 


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