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Some of you just don't get it... (yes another secession post.)

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I know some are getting sick of reading and hearing about this, so of course you have the right to not read or read and explain just how sick of it you are lol. 

I think some are not quite getting it though. It is not about not wanting to be an American anymore. No where is anyone saying that they don't want to be an American by signing or even making these petitions. It is individuals that are making the petitions, and these individuals have nothing to do with the actual state's government that they are making the petitions for. What it is all about is the people getting sick of how the government is running things. Over the years American citizens have been given less and less chances to really say how they feel. We are given things to vote on, but when you have to start voting on the lesser of the two evils on things, it is kind of pointless. We are giving choices that are made by the government, not by the people. The petitions are trying to show the government that the people are fed up with the way things are being run. Not about actually leaving America, but about making a point. Telling them hey, we don't like the way this country is being run, we want something done about it. Over the years we have just went with how things are, and now it is time to take a stand and say this is enough. We can not continue to live like this. We want something different. We want things to be better. We want our voices to be heard. 

by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 3:30 PM
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Shaylyn318
by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 3:47 PM

LOL. Yeah. You don't even have to get off your ass. Just sit and complain and actually DO nothing.

Quoting ..MoonShine..:

Signing a "petition" is drastic? 

Quoting ashleymosq:

Sometimes it takes something drastic to finally get the attention that is needed to correct a problem.

Quoting km1970:

 Maybe instead of signing petitions, the people that have problems with the government should run for office themselves. Get involved with local and state politics. Become a voice for change instead of a random name on an internet petition.




ashleymosq
by Platinum Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Starting one and then others following is. It may not seem like it, but when it is about you agreeing that your state needs to leave the US, then yes it is. 

Quoting ..MoonShine..:

Signing a "petition" is drastic? 

Quoting ashleymosq:

Sometimes it takes something drastic to finally get the attention that is needed to correct a problem.

Quoting km1970:

 Maybe instead of signing petitions, the people that have problems with the government should run for office themselves. Get involved with local and state politics. Become a voice for change instead of a random name on an internet petition.




LectioDivina
by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM
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Soo... they are trying to get The United States of America back to what they want it to be by petitioning to Leave the United States of America?


That's a childish threat.



fostermomoftwo
by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 3:49 PM

ya they LOVE to twist words around, oh and god forbid anyone make a spelling error, cause then your white trash and uneducated, oh and close minded. funny how that works on here.

Quoting ashleymosq:

Very true lol.

Quoting Anonymous:

You know you have to make things clear around here or they'll twist your words around. lol

Quoting ashleymosq:

Hmm should I have made that clear in my orignal post? I figured since I said the government people wouldn't confuse it with the fact of whether or not the state was red or blue or try to say that I am saying it is because Obama was re-elected. 

Quoting Anonymous:

And OP may I add that it's not whether you're living in a Red or Blue state or who you voted for, but about the federal government as a whole.


 



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km1970
by Platinum Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 3:54 PM

 Say your state has a population of 8 million people and out of that state 9,000 sign a petition that they want their state to leave the US. What about the other 7,991,000 people that don't agree and don't sign the petition. Then what happens?

Quoting ashleymosq:

Starting one and then others following is. It may not seem like it, but when it is about you agreeing that your state needs to leave the US, then yes it is. 

Quoting ..MoonShine..:

Signing a "petition" is drastic? 

Quoting ashleymosq:

Sometimes it takes something drastic to finally get the attention that is needed to correct a problem.

Quoting km1970:

 Maybe instead of signing petitions, the people that have problems with the government should run for office themselves. Get involved with local and state politics. Become a voice for change instead of a random name on an internet petition.




 

ashleymosq
by Platinum Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 3:54 PM
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See that is another thing people are not getting. It is not about Obama or Romney. It is not about the blue states or the red states... If you look at all the states that are on the list, there are red and blue states on it. 

It is about the fact that nothing is getting any better. Nothing is actually changing for the good. Everything just keeps to be getting worse and worse, and the people are getting sick of it. The American people have went too long without their voices being heard and they are trying to do what they think is the best way to have their voices heard. Of course anyone that signs the petitions know that there is no way that their state will actually secede, but it is the point they are trying to make. They would rather try to secede then to go on letting this corrupt government screw them over.

Quoting Anonymous:

Blah blah blah.

Funny how every president BEFORE obama has done shit people.dont agree with but yet there were not petitions.

The president has to go up against.......

Nvm falling on deaf ears


Sanctimommy
by Platinum Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM
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Texans Who Believe Clicking a Button on the Internet Will Drastically Change Their Government:

ashleymosq
by Platinum Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 3:57 PM
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These petitions don't even go to the Obama administration unless they have at least 25,000 signatures, so the petition is basically trashed if it has only 9,000. I know that is not your point though lol. Most of the people that are signing these petitions know that there is no way (at least I would hope they would know lol) that their state will actually get to secede from the US. So the ones that are not voting will not be affected either way. It is just a way of telling the government to wake up and that things need to change.

Quoting km1970:

 Say your state has a population of 8 million people and out of that state 9,000 sign a petition that they want their state to leave the US. What about the other 7,991,000 people that don't agree and don't sign the petition. Then what happens?

Quoting ashleymosq:

Starting one and then others following is. It may not seem like it, but when it is about you agreeing that your state needs to leave the US, then yes it is. 

Quoting ..MoonShine..:

Signing a "petition" is drastic? 

Quoting ashleymosq:

Sometimes it takes something drastic to finally get the attention that is needed to correct a problem.

Quoting km1970:

 Maybe instead of signing petitions, the people that have problems with the government should run for office themselves. Get involved with local and state politics. Become a voice for change instead of a random name on an internet petition.




 


thatgirl70
by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 3:58 PM
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Eh, the people I know that support it are doing it because they're pissed Obama got elected, and rather than accept it, they're throwing a hissy fit, plain and simple. 

ashleymosq
by Platinum Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 4:01 PM
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Yes there are some that are doing it for that reason too. But I know a lot of people that are signing it because of the fact that our government is running the country into the ground.

Quoting thatgirl70:

Eh, the people I know that support it are doing it because they're pissed Obama got elected, and rather than accept it, they're throwing a hissy fit, plain and simple. 


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