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Some of you just don't get it... (yes another secession post.)

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I know some are getting sick of reading and hearing about this, so of course you have the right to not read or read and explain just how sick of it you are lol. 

I think some are not quite getting it though. It is not about not wanting to be an American anymore. No where is anyone saying that they don't want to be an American by signing or even making these petitions. It is individuals that are making the petitions, and these individuals have nothing to do with the actual state's government that they are making the petitions for. What it is all about is the people getting sick of how the government is running things. Over the years American citizens have been given less and less chances to really say how they feel. We are given things to vote on, but when you have to start voting on the lesser of the two evils on things, it is kind of pointless. We are giving choices that are made by the government, not by the people. The petitions are trying to show the government that the people are fed up with the way things are being run. Not about actually leaving America, but about making a point. Telling them hey, we don't like the way this country is being run, we want something done about it. Over the years we have just went with how things are, and now it is time to take a stand and say this is enough. We can not continue to live like this. We want something different. We want things to be better. We want our voices to be heard. 

by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 3:30 PM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 6 on Nov. 13, 2012 at 4:01 PM
1 mom liked this
I'm with you.

It's also amusing to me that all these petitioners "don't like how the govt is being run" but they don't realize that Obama is trying to change things but is getting cockblocked every step of the way. Hello!

They claim he isn't doing anything, then they claim they're trying to stop him because he's doing too much. Well which is it?? If you don't like how things are being run, but then want to stop anyone trying to make changes, what exactly is your position? America is like a big bipolar motherfucker.


Quoting Anonymous:

Blah blah blah.



Funny how every president BEFORE obama has done shit people.dont agree with but yet there were not petitions.



The president has to go up against.......



Nvm falling on deaf ears

km1970
by Platinum Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM

 So basically that's saying the petition is pointless(and laughable). However, people think this will be the wake up call to government? 

Quoting ashleymosq:
These petitions don't even go to the Obama administration unless they have at least 25,000 signatures, so the petition is basically trashed if it has only 9,000. I know that is not your point though lol. Most of the people that are signing these petitions know that there is no way (at least I would hope they would know lol) that their state will actually get to secede from the US. So the ones that are not voting will not be affected either way. It is just a way of telling the government to wake up and that things need to change.

Quoting km1970:

 Say your state has a population of 8 million people and out of that state 9,000 sign a petition that they want their state to leave the US. What about the other 7,991,000 people that don't agree and don't sign the petition. Then what happens?

Quoting ashleymosq:

Starting one and then others following is. It may not seem like it, but when it is about you agreeing that your state needs to leave the US, then yes it is. 

Quoting ..MoonShine..:

Signing a "petition" is drastic? 

Quoting ashleymosq:

Sometimes it takes something drastic to finally get the attention that is needed to correct a problem.

Quoting km1970:

 Maybe instead of signing petitions, the people that have problems with the government should run for office themselves. Get involved with local and state politics. Become a voice for change instead of a random name on an internet petition.




 


 

Anonymous
by Anonymous 6 on Nov. 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM
Lol right?

I have an idea: let's all secede from the US and then form our own country that includes all the states that used to be in the US. We can call it...the US! Lol


Quoting LectioDivina:

Soo... they are trying to get The United States of America back to what they want it to be by petitioning to Leave the United States of America?


That's a childish threat.




Anonymous
by Anonymous 7 on Nov. 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM

http://wh.gov/9hgb


ashleymosq
by Platinum Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

No the petitions are not pointless. It is a way to show the government that the people are sick of how things are being run. 

Quoting km1970:

 So basically that's saying the petition is pointless(and laughable). However, people think this will be the wake up call to government? 

Quoting ashleymosq:
These petitions don't even go to the Obama administration unless they have at least 25,000 signatures, so the petition is basically trashed if it has only 9,000. I know that is not your point though lol. Most of the people that are signing these petitions know that there is no way (at least I would hope they would know lol) that their state will actually get to secede from the US. So the ones that are not voting will not be affected either way. It is just a way of telling the government to wake up and that things need to change.

Quoting km1970:

 Say your state has a population of 8 million people and out of that state 9,000 sign a petition that they want their state to leave the US. What about the other 7,991,000 people that don't agree and don't sign the petition. Then what happens?

Quoting ashleymosq:

Starting one and then others following is. It may not seem like it, but when it is about you agreeing that your state needs to leave the US, then yes it is. 

Quoting ..MoonShine..:

Signing a "petition" is drastic? 

Quoting ashleymosq:

Sometimes it takes something drastic to finally get the attention that is needed to correct a problem.

Quoting km1970:

 Maybe instead of signing petitions, the people that have problems with the government should run for office themselves. Get involved with local and state politics. Become a voice for change instead of a random name on an internet petition.




 


 


ashleymosq
by Platinum Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 4:13 PM
1 mom liked this

http://wh.gov/9hgb

There made it clicky for you.

Quoting Anonymous:


http://wh.gov/9hgb



SnapIt
by Ruby Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM
I will panic on another day
Today is not the day to do so for me
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The.Hug.Life
by on Nov. 13, 2012 at 4:16 PM

God, you idiots annoy me. I seem to remember a group rising up against corruption and greed and the majority of conservatives speaking out against that group...The Occupy Movement, anyone?

Fuck you and your temper tantrums. 

thetrollcat
by Meow on Nov. 13, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Let me tell you something. Montana was one of the states listed this is not even close to being true. Its absolute BULLSHIT that montana is asking to be departed as part of the United States of America.

MONTANA may well be angry about the insurance and health care associated with the Obamacare and trying to elect not to participate, that I will buy.

But to divide I CALL BULLSHIT and I can prove it.

ashleymosq
by Platinum Member on Nov. 13, 2012 at 4:23 PM

It was just one person that makes the petition. Not someone in the government, just some individual. Then other individuals sign it. The petitions are not a product of the state's government.

Quoting thetrollcat:

Let me tell you something. Montana was one of the states listed this is not even close to being true. Its absolute BULLSHIT that montana is asking to be departed as part of the United States of America.

MONTANA may well be angry about the insurance and health care associated with the Obamacare and trying to elect not to participate, that I will buy.

But to divide I CALL BULLSHIT and I can prove it.


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