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Stop mutilating your babies!!!!

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http://www.drmomma.org/2010_03_01_archive.html

Why did my loving parents do this to me many years ago?

I’m sure their doctor told them it was the hygienic thing to do. But I’m equally sure I must have been screaming like hell while it was being done. Today, millions of circumcisions are still performed. But it’s time to stop this shocking brutality and the complications associated with it.

Dr. Guy Madder, a surgeon at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Adelaide, Australia, reports in the Annals of Family Medicine that there is no convincing evidence that circumcision decreases the risk of sexually transmitted disease, urinary tract infections, or penile cancer.

The rituals of some religious faiths advocate circumcision. But, apart from these circumstances, it’s hard to justify this procedure. In fact, a reading of the world’s medical journals makes your hair stand on end when you read of potential surgical complications.

How common are complications? This depends on how you label a complication. For example, penal foreskin is anatomically the most sensitive part of the organ. It ensures satisfactory sex. It’s therefore reasonable to argue that in this instance the complication rate is 100% because it decreases sexual satisfaction.

There’s another aspect to circumcision that is never mentioned in the discussion of the pros and cons of this surgery. Today, erectile dysfunction (ED) drugs are being used by an increasing number of males, and many of them are not in their senior years. I admit, I have no hard statistics on this matter. [Editor's note: recent ED statistics are outlined in The Rise of Viagra]

But I wonder how many males who require ED drugs could have experienced a longer and more satisfactory sex life, if this sensitive organ had not been removed. I suspect more than we realize. This is a great project for some aspiring researcher!

But why do some of the complications of this procedure make one’s hair stand on end? Harvey Cushing, one of Harvard’s greatest brain surgeons, once remarked that, “There is no such thing as minor surgery, but there are a lot of minor surgeons.” In this case, a profound remark.

Compared to brain surgery, circumcision is a minor procedure, and is normally performed without complications. But, no surgical procedure to my knowledge has ever been devised, regardless of how minor it is, without possible untoward results.

The world’s medical journals are full of reports dealing with a variety of surgical complications. And the vast majority of severe complications are not an act of God, but technical human errors made during the procedure.

A primary problem is the incorrect use of the circumcision clamp. In some cases too much foreskin is pulled into the clamp resulting in injury, not only to the shaft of the penis, but also to the urinary tube (urethra) that runs through it. The most traumatic complication in the past caused the amputation of part of the penis.

Such traumatic injuries to the penis and urethra often result in urinary stricture and difficulty passing urine. Or, the injury may result in a urethral fistula, in which urine is discharged through an abnormal opening. These complications are not easy to repair, and what starts out as a minor procedure, becomes a major one. Moreover, some of these injuries only become apparent following discharge from hospital. A fistula often takes weeks or months to make its presence known.

There have been bizarre problems that one would never think of happening. For instance, one newborn screamed during the procedure with such intensity that the stomach ruptured, requiring additional emergency surgery.

Another had heart failure [heart attack] from the circumcision surgery and died.

Still another died from a bleeding disorder post-op. It’s easy to see how this could happen since coagulation studies are not routinely done prior to circumcision surgery.

Why wouldn’t babies scream like hell when circumcised without anesthesia? And how many males who have it done later in life would agree to this procedure without anesthesia?

Today we criticize those cultures that believe in the barbaric act of female circumcision. Yet Western doctors continue to carry out this sadistic procedure in males without their permission. That’s why many argue that circumcision violates the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights. Amen to that.

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There are more links and good reads on the website. This isn't a debate. You are playing with fire and potentially scarring your son for life. Please be factually informed before you chop it off. You may sit back and say "Well, my baby/son never had problems, he is set for life!" Look at the increase of men looking to reverse it and now looking to help for ED. The complications may not be present at first, but they will come at a vengence later.

Posted by Anonymous on Nov. 19, 2012 at 4:02 PM
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KMadsen
by Platinum Member on Nov. 20, 2012 at 8:59 PM
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I will NEVER cut off a normal part of my child's body. If I have a son he will be left perfect & whole.

LectioDivina
by on Nov. 20, 2012 at 9:00 PM
1 mom liked this

Slice em' and dice em.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 69 on Nov. 20, 2012 at 9:20 PM

So? I am for vaccines, so that is great! I son is getting the HPV vaccine. Does not change my opinion on RIC. 

Quoting grace1973:

It's called VULVAR cancer, there is no such thing as clitoral cancer. And my daughter received the HPV vaccination to help in preventing that. 

Quoting Anonymous:

A circumcison will reduce your daughters risks of labial, and clitoral cancer. Best to just take care of her extra skin at birth too. 

Quoting grace1973:

I had my son circumcised at birth and don't feel a bit of shame for my decision.  I believe in the end, for him, I made the right choice.  The anecdotal evidence is overwhelmingly affirmative that circumcision helps reduce the spread of infectious disease, including transmission if HIV.  Additionally, the American Board of Pediatrics is finally considering weighing in to support circumcision.  The W.H.O. already recommends circumcisions, particularly in countries where access to medical care is scarce and HIV is rampant.  So yeah, I did it.   Who wouldn't want to do all they can in the quest to protect their children.  I also insisted he be vaccinated for HPV.  Sue me. 




Anonymous
by Anonymous 69 on Nov. 20, 2012 at 9:22 PM

You are a total weirdo!

Quoting keriley1:

Uh....good attempt at making an argument. I personally will not be having sex with her or make her have babies, but when (or if) she does then I guess hers will probably be just like mine.

Quoting Anonymous:

You gonna make your daughter vagina just like yours too? 

Quoting keriley1:

My fiance likes his p.p. just the way it is and said I don't have a choice if we ever have a boy, he will be circumsized just like daddy.




Anonymous
by Anonymous 69 on Nov. 20, 2012 at 9:27 PM

How men, who have been pressured by society to have their "penis" look a certain way, is hardly a reason to continue RIC. Many men, who are under 25 year old no longer experience that pressure, since it is close to 50/50. I am sincerely sorry that men have felt this pressure, much like a woman pressure to have perfect breasts, but it is not a good argument for RIC. 

Quoting baileymarie723:

No I don't sleep around. I am happily married. I had to do a project when I was in college about a controversal medical topic and abortion was already taken so I did it on circumcision. I talked to the closest male family and friends that I had and they were ok with talking to me about it. I just ask some basic questions and if they were uncomfortable with any of them they didn't have to answer. I asked most of them through email, so it wasn't face-to-face conversations. I never said I was for it I just said that I know guys who wish they were. Way to be a judgemental twit.

Quoting Anonymous:


keriley1
by Silver Member on Nov. 20, 2012 at 9:29 PM
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Not entirely sure how you come to that conclusion but ok.

Quoting Anonymous:

You are a total weirdo!

Quoting keriley1:

Uh....good attempt at making an argument. I personally will not be having sex with her or make her have babies, but when (or if) she does then I guess hers will probably be just like mine.

Quoting Anonymous:

You gonna make your daughter vagina just like yours too? 

Quoting keriley1:

My fiance likes his p.p. just the way it is and said I don't have a choice if we ever have a boy, he will be circumsized just like daddy.





Anonymous
by Anonymous 69 on Nov. 20, 2012 at 9:37 PM

We were talking about surgically altering a child to look like the parent. Are you gonna SURICALLY alter your daughters vagina to look like yours? I just assumed I did not have to spell that out, since that is what we were talking about. 

Quoting keriley1:

Not entirely sure how you come to that conclusion but ok.

Quoting Anonymous:

You are a total weirdo!

Quoting keriley1:

Uh....good attempt at making an argument. I personally will not be having sex with her or make her have babies, but when (or if) she does then I guess hers will probably be just like mine.

Quoting Anonymous:

You gonna make your daughter vagina just like yours too? 

Quoting keriley1:

My fiance likes his p.p. just the way it is and said I don't have a choice if we ever have a boy, he will be circumsized just like daddy.






cklamour
by Gold Member on Nov. 20, 2012 at 9:44 PM
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keriley1
by Silver Member on Nov. 20, 2012 at 9:47 PM
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They all look basically the same, so you still don't make sense. Its not to LOOK like him its for the health benfits. Which there are. No one can deny there are benefits to it. Sure there are risks, but there is a bit of risk just sitting on your couch. A car could come flying thru your wall and kill you. (just happened last summer to a poor old lady just sitting in her living room.)

Quoting Anonymous:

We were talking about surgically altering a child to look like the parent. Are you gonna SURICALLY alter your daughters vagina to look like yours? I just assumed I did not have to spell that out, since that is what we were talking about. 

Quoting keriley1:

Not entirely sure how you come to that conclusion but ok.

Quoting Anonymous:

You are a total weirdo!

Quoting keriley1:

Uh....good attempt at making an argument. I personally will not be having sex with her or make her have babies, but when (or if) she does then I guess hers will probably be just like mine.

Quoting Anonymous:

You gonna make your daughter vagina just like yours too? 

Quoting keriley1:

My fiance likes his p.p. just the way it is and said I don't have a choice if we ever have a boy, he will be circumsized just like daddy.







precious1114
by Bronze Member on Nov. 20, 2012 at 9:53 PM
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Quoting Anonymous:

Out of 100 Circumcised boys:

75 will not readily breastfeed post-op55 will have adverse reactions from the surgery35 will have post-op hemorrhaging to one degree or another31 will develop meatal ulcers10 will need to have the circumcision surgery repeated to fix prior surgical problems/error8 will suffer infection at the surgical site3 will develop post-operative phimosis2 will have a more serious complication (seizure, heart attack, stroke, loss of penis, death)1 will require additional immediate surgery and sutures to stop hemorrhage1 will develop fibrosis1 will develop phimosis1 will be treated with antibiotics for a UTI (urinary tract infection)1 will be treated with antibiotics for surgical site infectionOf those who do receive pain medication for the surgery (about 4% of
those boys undergoing circumcision in the U.S.) some will have adverse reactions to the pain medication injectedOut of 100 Intact boys: 2 will be treated with antibiotics for a UTI (fewer if the foreskin is never forcibly retracted)1 will be told to get cut later in life for one reason or another (fewer if the foreskin is never forcibly retracted)


My son never had any issues. And he went straight to the breast and ate and ate like nothing ever happened. He was great. And i think these are a bunch of crap! Did you know penile cancer is 90%a greater in uncirc males??? 90%!
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