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why do some of you dislike the military? *slight edit

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There is another post bout vaccines and the military and some of the moms seemed to really dislike the military. I understand not want to join or not wanting your kids or so to join but some of them seemed to have a very low opinion of people in the military and I am not sure why.



If you can state your opinion in a way that isn't offensive that's fine just remember its your opinion and not fact.

*so a lot of you are saying it is because of the sense of entitlement they (the military and their families) have. Can I just ask what you are basing this on. Is it through personal experience?  Is it from a large pool of military people you have interacting with or is it based on a few people you know?

I ask becaue I know people not in the military that feel that sense of entitlement for whatever reason and I don't think it has to do with their career choice, it is more a personality flaw. I know military that do feel entitled but I know more that don't.

by on Nov. 26, 2012 at 1:05 PM
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cueballsmom
by Gold Member on Nov. 26, 2012 at 1:25 PM
Quoting Elyce225:

I think *most* of the military is for those who can not do anything else.  It doesn't take someone intelligent to follow orders.  I don't support the *current* military because they are at war for nothing.  We are no longer fighting for our freedom, we are and will continue to be free, not because of the current military. 

I know a lot of people who wanted to join the military just to kill people.  That is horrible.  I don't think that military personal of their families should have any special privileges.  They do not do anything special.  

I know some people in the military who are absolutely brilliant and incredible people.  We are to others what they are to us.  Meaning, we think there are terrorist ruining America.  Well we are the terrorist in other countries ruining and killing people over there.  We have killed enough innocent people on their land.  It's time to stop.


The ones who could do nothing else, well, they are the ones doing "idiot" jobs, like engineering or cooks. there is no thought process and picture instructions are everywhere.

so it's kind of like saying that all construction workers are stupid, and so on. you do the job that suits you, the military suits a few.
Anonymous
by Anonymous 5 on Nov. 26, 2012 at 1:25 PM
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MANY military personnel wives act like the victim. They signed up for it therefore you take the responsibility and take it with pride. Do NOT give me a sob story your husband got deployed - you KNEW what you were getting into when you married that man. 

Anonymous
by Anonymous 6 on Nov. 26, 2012 at 1:26 PM

They don't get paid enough for all of the crap they have to go through. BTW, we can answer anyway we want. You don't govern how others respond to public posts.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 7 on Nov. 26, 2012 at 1:26 PM

 I don't have a bad view of the military...they're necessary! I do have a problem with how they treat returning soldiers. Especially National Guard soldiers. My exhusband left for Baghdad when I was 6 weeks pregnant. He came home to a 3 month old. He was national guard and while they have to "hold" his job for him, they also had to replace him while he was gone so first day back, "laid off". He only had 2 weeks of military pay after he came home from a year long deployment. He had PTSD. His unit had the highest suicide rate out of the state. He had no emotional attachment to our daughter and went crazy. He needed help, but it wasn't there for him. He kicked me and our infant out and moved another girl in. Obviously we divorced. Now, YEARS later, he's finally in counseling.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 3 on Nov. 26, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Yeah he's gotten in with some great people now.  The VA hospital in new orleans has taken 2 freaking years worth of appointments to get to where we are now, but his disability is at 80% now and as soon as they are done with the tests for his back, it will be at 100%.  He is in therapy at least twice a week and they do these "brain train" exercises to try to re-wire around the TBI.  He is not the same person he was even a year ago.

Quoting GreenEyePixie:

That massively sucks. My father is still fighting for injuries he recieved while deployed during Desert Storm / Desert Sheild. I hope your husband gets the help he needs and they do him right.  Has he joined his local DAV?  Depending on how good they are, a lot of them are very helpful in helping disabled vets in getting help and their disability increased if needed. Good support too (if it is a good group).

Quoting Anonymous:

I have a high opinion of the people who enlist, but as far as the higher-ups my ex has had to deal with -- no respect from me whatsoever.  He was turned away and told to "sleep it off" when he tried to get help and now 4 years later they finally find his TBI and have completely ignored his PTSD issues, not to mention they KNEW his back is broken (he has a hairline fracture that is years old but never calcified) due to an explosion in Iraq and they did nothing.. nothing at all until he found a decent VA advocate.

Did not get a fucking dime until 3 years after he was discharged medically on a JOKE of 20% disabled.



Anonymous
by Anonymous 8 on Nov. 26, 2012 at 1:28 PM
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I dont like the entitlement attitude they have. There are military discounts for alot of things. What about the nurses, first responders, firemen, and other people who have risky jobs that dont get discounts for everything or free meals. Military people signed up for their jobs just like everyone else, so why are they acting like the victim?

GreenEyePixie
by Platinum Member on Nov. 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM
Good to hear he got in with some good people. I hope he continues to get help and hopefully get better.

Quoting Anonymous:

Yeah he's gotten in with some great people now.  The VA hospital in new orleans has taken 2 freaking years worth of appointments to get to where we are now, but his disability is at 80% now and as soon as they are done with the tests for his back, it will be at 100%.  He is in therapy at least twice a week and they do these "brain train" exercises to try to re-wire around the TBI.  He is not the same person he was even a year ago.


Quoting GreenEyePixie:


That massively sucks. My father is still fighting for injuries he recieved while deployed during Desert Storm / Desert Sheild. I hope your husband gets the help he needs and they do him right.  Has he joined his local DAV?  Depending on how good they are, a lot of them are very helpful in helping disabled vets in getting help and their disability increased if needed. Good support too (if it is a good group).


Quoting Anonymous:


I have a high opinion of the people who enlist, but as far as the higher-ups my ex has had to deal with -- no respect from me whatsoever.  He was turned away and told to "sleep it off" when he tried to get help and now 4 years later they finally find his TBI and have completely ignored his PTSD issues, not to mention they KNEW his back is broken (he has a hairline fracture that is years old but never calcified) due to an explosion in Iraq and they did nothing.. nothing at all until he found a decent VA advocate.


Did not get a fucking dime until 3 years after he was discharged medically on a JOKE of 20% disabled.





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Anonymous
by Anonymous 9 on Nov. 26, 2012 at 1:31 PM
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My opinion is that the government doesn't care about you, a big brass band playing when you finally come home isn't worth it. People need to stop hurting their families, it's brainwashing at it's finest to think that you're supposed to ache for your wife/husband/children while dying in a ditch somewhere. People are crying for their loved ones but begging to return to war, I just don't understand it. I don't dislike the people in the military, I hate that people are being turned into the government's sheep.

SommelierMom
by Emerald Member on Nov. 26, 2012 at 1:32 PM
My only beef with the military is the gross misappropriation of funds I saw during my 6 years. It was unbelievable.
ebbierowe
by Gold Member on Nov. 26, 2012 at 1:33 PM

 so you are assuming all military people are like that? if so this is the issue I have. You are making assumptions about a ton of people you don't know. Now if you are saying the ones you know are like that it is a totally different thing. but the way that reads you dislike my husband becuase you think he has an entitlement attitude. And for the record no one forces places to give military discounts that is something the company decides to do. it is not like I can go in and demand a discount cause my husband is active duty....that is just silly.

Quoting Anonymous:

I dont like the entitlement attitude they have. There are military discounts for alot of things. What about the nurses, first responders, firemen, and other people who have risky jobs that dont get discounts for everything or free meals. Military people signed up for their jobs just like everyone else, so why are they acting like the victim?

 

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