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My employeer is forcing me to get a flu shot...

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they basically told us we have to get one or wear a mask from Dec 1st until March 31st. The problem with that is we work in a residential program.. we are expected to do day to day activities.. we are even going to have to wear it outside in the community with the youth. We are going to have to eat in the office.. which is crap because we will NEVER get time to eat and we are suppose to eat with the kids...

the union veto'ed them making us wear stickers if we didn't have the shot since it was stigmatizing.. so why the heck can they stigmatize us with face masks??


Just waiting to call my union..


by on Nov. 30, 2012 at 11:25 AM
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Shermy
by Platinum Member on Nov. 30, 2012 at 11:41 AM

...and boom goes the dynamite 

http://coldflu.about.com/od/fluvaccinequestions/f/illafterflushot.htm

Quoting Anonymous:

Everyone I've known who's gotten the shot has gotten sick from it. It's a friggen scam.


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mrimom
by Bronze Member on Nov. 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM
They aren't "making" you get the shot. You just don't like their option. Either get the shot or wear the mask. It's pretty simple if you ask me.
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Mandy575
by Silver Member on Nov. 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Just because they are out in the community does not mean they don't have a compromised immune system. If you think that you are very mistaken.


Quoting acaisha:


Quoting Kylie819:

I don't see the problem. If you work with a higher risk group (elderly, children) they need to take measures to protect those people. The flu can be far more serious for them. My friend is a PICU nurse and is required to get a flu shot.



Oh, an I don't get flu shots for my family, so it's not like I think everyone should get one.

teens are not higher risk.. and like I said.. they are not closed in.. they go out in the community all the time.. every day.. around everyone else who has not had the flu shot.. they are not required to wear a mask or get the shot.. we have to walk around like plague carriers because we choose not to put crap into our bodies? I take vitamin D and stay healthy.. I haven't had the flu for 4 years... I am fully prepared to burn my sick days if I get sick and not go to work..


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Anonymous
by Anonymous on Nov. 30, 2012 at 11:44 AM


Quoting Shermy:

...and boom goes the dynamite 

http://coldflu.about.com/od/fluvaccinequestions/f/illafterflushot.htm

Quoting Anonymous:

Everyone I've known who's gotten the shot has gotten sick from it. It's a friggen scam.


Probably government BS. lol

BeAuTiFuL.BLiSs
by Platinum Member on Nov. 30, 2012 at 11:47 AM

I haven't had a flu shot in 9 years now, and I can count on one hand how many times I've been sick in those 9 years.

However every time I've ever got a flu shot, 2-3 days later, I'm sick as a dog. When I used to get them. 

I read most of the article. Not believing it. Lol. I'll take my personal experience over what it's saying, to be honest.

Quoting Shermy:

...and boom goes the dynamite 

http://coldflu.about.com/od/fluvaccinequestions/f/illafterflushot.htm

Quoting Anonymous:

Everyone I've known who's gotten the shot has gotten sick from it. It's a friggen scam.



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Anonymous
by Anonymous on Nov. 30, 2012 at 11:47 AM
My employer does the same thing... I don't see the mask thing holding up either. It'll last all of 2 weeks then be tossed like the stickers.
PeytonNBella
by Silver Member on Nov. 30, 2012 at 11:48 AM

My uneducated guess would be that the mask has been proven to prevent (to some degree) the spreading of germs, while the stickers were purely meant to "brand" people without the flu shot. See what your union says

Quoting acaisha:


Quoting ria7:

You can join the "choosing not to vax" group for some great ways to fight this. 

I live in Canada.. does that matter? this is the letter from the union regarding stickers.. it seems pretty clear its not okay to stigmatize us.. so why the hell are masks okay??



Provincial Flu Shot Policy Information & Sticker Change

Community Bargaining Association (CBA) representatives met with representatives of the Health Employers Association (HEABC) on November 26 to raise concerns about the employers' influenza (flu) immunization policy. The union continues to encourage members to become immunized to protect vulnerable clients. But, several aspects of the policy are problematic.

For one, the lack of consultation between HEABC and the CBA prior to the employer creating the policy. This has created a number of difficulties. The employers' policy is broad and this has led to different practices across the province.

The CBA also raised concerns about health care workers having to wear a sticker indicating whether or not they’ve had a flu shot. This, we feel, stigmatizes workers. There was also concern raised about the process whereby members were required to notify the employer that they’d been immunized. 

Sticker Change
The stickers were originally designed to inform the employer who has had the flu shot and who has not. Members were being required to visibly display a sticker or badge that clearly stated that the member had been immunized.  Members who were not immunized were required to wear a different sticker. Members objected strongly to this portion of the policy.

HEABC members have now informed us they’ve heard the concerns of workers and have changed the policy.

Effective immediately, only those workers who’ve had the flu shot will wear a sticker. We understand the sticker is white with a green graphic.

HEABC has agreed the sticker can be worn on the back of a worker's identification badge, allowing the worker's privacy to be respected. A worker has only to show the sticker if requested by a representative of the employer. 

The CBA will continue to follow this issue.

The CBA represents more than 14,000 members, the majority of whom are represented by the BCGEU. Other unions in the Association are UFCW, HEU, CUPE, HSA, and USWA.


acaisha
by Gold Member on Nov. 30, 2012 at 11:48 AM


Quoting Anonymous:

There's always somebody like this. Who won't do it just to cause an issue.

its not about causing an issue.. its about our rights not to be stigmatized and have the capability to do our jobs compromised because someone decided we should do something we have a right not to do. Like I said.. these kids are out in the community.. people take them on passes.. we as employees take them on passes on our free time.. we aren't required to wear a mask then.. so why when we are working? whats the point? there is none other then people pushing their own adgenda on us to get the flu shot.. which we have a right not to do.

acaisha
by Gold Member on Nov. 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM

how is it preventing it when no one else around the kids has their shots? or forced to wear a mask.. their teachers aren't, their various counsellors.. people taking them on passes. Heck even the employees can take them on passes on our free time and not wear a mask.. so I could basically take a kid out for an hour before my shift.. not wear a mask.. then have to put one on for my shift.. where is the sense in that?

Quoting PeytonNBella:

My uneducated guess would be that the mask has been proven to prevent (to some degree) the spreading of germs, while the stickers were purely meant to "brand" people without the flu shot. See what your union says

Quoting acaisha:


Quoting ria7:

You can join the "choosing not to vax" group for some great ways to fight this. 

I live in Canada.. does that matter? this is the letter from the union regarding stickers.. it seems pretty clear its not okay to stigmatize us.. so why the hell are masks okay??



Provincial Flu Shot Policy Information & Sticker Change

Community Bargaining Association (CBA) representatives met with representatives of the Health Employers Association (HEABC) on November 26 to raise concerns about the employers' influenza (flu) immunization policy. The union continues to encourage members to become immunized to protect vulnerable clients. But, several aspects of the policy are problematic.

For one, the lack of consultation between HEABC and the CBA prior to the employer creating the policy. This has created a number of difficulties. The employers' policy is broad and this has led to different practices across the province.

The CBA also raised concerns about health care workers having to wear a sticker indicating whether or not they’ve had a flu shot. This, we feel, stigmatizes workers. There was also concern raised about the process whereby members were required to notify the employer that they’d been immunized. 

Sticker Change
The stickers were originally designed to inform the employer who has had the flu shot and who has not. Members were being required to visibly display a sticker or badge that clearly stated that the member had been immunized.  Members who were not immunized were required to wear a different sticker. Members objected strongly to this portion of the policy.

HEABC members have now informed us they’ve heard the concerns of workers and have changed the policy.

Effective immediately, only those workers who’ve had the flu shot will wear a sticker. We understand the sticker is white with a green graphic.

HEABC has agreed the sticker can be worn on the back of a worker's identification badge, allowing the worker's privacy to be respected. A worker has only to show the sticker if requested by a representative of the employer. 

The CBA will continue to follow this issue.

The CBA represents more than 14,000 members, the majority of whom are represented by the BCGEU. Other unions in the Association are UFCW, HEU, CUPE, HSA, and USWA.



alc4evermom
by on Nov. 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Stick to your instinct and don't take the shot;  people are supposed to get sick to build immunity.  Survival of the fittest;  this is why we have so many sick little weaklings running around while big pharma gets to vacation in the tropics and sit in first class while injecting you with who knows what. 

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