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I see a lot of posts on CM asking Christians to explain this or that or to defend their rights over and over again...Where are the posts about other religions on CM? How come no one asks pagans to explain why they mutilate cats and leave them for dead outside pretty suburban neighborhoods? Or asking the Muslims why they feel anyone who leaves thier faith deserves their version of Hell? Or asking the Hindus what is so powerful about a genetically mutated elephant? You get my point?

I'm tired of Christians being the target from other faiths, all the while whining that Christains are the favored religion in our country.

I'm a Roman Catholic Christian, volunteer for Protective Animal League & LAP, cross-stitching, Certified Dog Trainer, green living, book reading, frugal, young wife, college student and mom to Evalynn 8yr, Ashley 7yr, Trey 2yr, and Hailey 11 months, and "mom" to 2 indoor only cats & 1 toy poodle and Pekingese!

by on Jan. 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM
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Aamy
by Ruby Member on Jan. 15, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Lol yes im Pagan. And Christmas and Halloween are fun for everyone =) !!! 

Quoting LADYxGHOST:

You're a pagan? Thank you for X-mas, Easter and Halloween. 

Quoting Aamy:

Awww  poop. Oh well, Im pagan and i got married, at the time he was **gasp** a Christan to. Yes my DH married me, he was a Christian and i was not. Oh well. Poop on those that think that way heh. 




sha_lyn68
by Platinum Member on Jan. 15, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Who said that they are all the same or that they are all just alike? You are the one falsely assuming that all Christians must believe the exact same thing for them to be considered Christians.

Quoting harehelper:

Ok. *shrug* People tell me lots of things. Doesn't mean I need to agree.

Can you answer this for me? If Catholicism, JWs, Mormons etc are all the same, why do they have different names? If we are all just alike, why are there denominations at all?

Quoting sha_lyn68:

I'm not the only one who has tried telling you numerous times that Catholics, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons etc are Christian. We've even given you links to websites from these various Christian denominations that assert the fact that they are Christian. You seem to be under the impression that you get to decide who is Christian and who is not.

You also seem to have missed the fact that just because I am not longer a Christian, I was one for 35 years,  I've been "in the house" and I've "seen al the rooms". Your denomination of Christianity (which BTW I don't believe you've ever named) is not the only one.

Quoting harehelper:

Yes, we have had this discussion before. The question had a point, you just hadn't gotten it yet. So here it is: You were arguing with me the other day that all Catholics are Christian. I disagree, of course. JWs are not Christian either, and they do go door to door. So since you are not Christian, or JW, or Catholic etc. then why do you feel that you can tell me how any of these religions work, especially my own? You couldn't look in the window of a house and know what all the rooms look like. You also can't be on the outside of a religion and understand it.

Quoting sha_lyn68:

You know fully well that I am not from previous discussions that we have had. Why are you asking an irrlevent question instead of answering mine?


You claim that you've never seen any Christians that go door to door.... Then do tell us, who have you seen go door to door other than Christians? Atheist don't go door to door trying to get you to convert to atheism. Muslims don't go door to door trying to get you to convert to Islam. Buddhists don't go door to door trying to get you to convert to Buddhism. So then do tell us, who goes door to door other than Christians?

Quoting harehelper:

Are you Christian?

Quoting sha_lyn68:

Can you name on religion other than a Christian denomination that goes door to door? Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses and Baptists all tend to go door to door to spread the word of God.

Quoting harehelper:

Christians can't damn you to hell. Only God can do that.

Really? I have never seen any Christians that go door to door, and did you miss the JWs?

Have you also missed the enormous banners that atheists have posted mocking Christianity in places like New York?

Quoting mysticalmalissa:

I think its because the xtains are the only ones that will damn you to hell in public and think they are doing a good thing.

They are the only religion I have ever found to go around knocking on peoples doors and thinking they are above the law to do so even when the property is posted.

They are the only religion I have found that wants to force their belief on everyone. They are the only religion that feels it should be EVERYWHERE.

The other religions you mention are all calm and peaceful. Maybe some of the xtains can learn from them??









Anonymous
by Anonymous on Jan. 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM
I really didnt want to get in this, but I have to. I am Christian (not Catholic, there are other Christian religions). My dads fam is Catholic, so are my bros. My mom is Lutheran, thats what I learned. I didnt go to church for almost 15 years, and because my dd is getting Catholic backgound at school, I have taken her to my church for a slightly different perpective. I want her to learn about different religions then when old enough, go with whatever it is she believes. For myself, I in no way judge others based on there religion. That is what I was taught. I do not look down upon others for their beliefs, nor do I believe they are going to hell for not being Christian. That is not what Christianity is about. I support all religions and actively learn about them. I think the Jewish fauth and Buddists are fascinating in particular. Are they goung to hell? I dont think so. Religion is a choice, God or Allah or whoever your higher power is, if you believe in one, is not going to persecute you. Its what you personally believe and there is nothing wrong with it in my Christian opinion. Most Christians I know feel the same. As for those who judge others, you are not a true Christian. We are to spread the good news, not shove it down throats and judge if someone believes differently.


Quoting Anonymous:

In Russia Christians are killed and parents are forced to watch their children be tortured to death for just loving Jesus. How are Christians not persecuted? In Denmark Muslims kill Christians also. In China Christians have to hide their love for Jesus and if they are caught they are harassed and beaten. In America people call Christians hypocrites and other names. All because we know there is one creator who sent his son as an ultimate sacrifice. That is what pisses ppl off about Christians. Yet, no one is pissed that Muslims only pray to Allah and are murdering in Allah's name. Some people worship a Buddha which is an overweight man made figure... I personally can't understand worshipping nature or the sun, I prefer to worship the creator of it all. I'm not mad bc ppl want to worship these things but I know what they worship is an abomination to god. I'm not the judge of what happens to them so I stay out of it. So bc I believe what others worship is an abomination to god that makes me a mean judgmental person? Does anyone know what judgmental means? I would have to be telling u that your totally going to hell and there's nothing that can save you. Instead I say its an abomination. I didn't say your headed for hell so please ppl learn the differences.




Quoting Anonymous:

Maybe because some of them scream the are persecuted for their beliefs when they live in the US. They are not killed for their religious affiliation in the US like they are in other countries. Just one example.



Anonymous
by Anonymous on Jan. 15, 2013 at 10:36 PM
I don't look down on anyone and I don't ever tell people they are going to hell. That is a judgement that I would have no power of knowing. However, I can say worshiping other idols or gods is an abomination. Why can I say that? Because god says so in the bible that I read daily. I leave it at that and people always misinterpret what I said. There really is no need to go farther with it bc its not my place to rebuke people its gods place. All I do is state a message then walk away let god handle it.


Quoting Anonymous:

I really didnt want to get in this, but I have to. I am Christian (not Catholic, there are other Christian religions). My dads fam is Catholic, so are my bros. My mom is Lutheran, thats what I learned. I didnt go to church for almost 15 years, and because my dd is getting Catholic backgound at school, I have taken her to my church for a slightly different perpective. I want her to learn about different religions then when old enough, go with whatever it is she believes. For myself, I in no way judge others based on there religion. That is what I was taught. I do not look down upon others for their beliefs, nor do I believe they are going to hell for not being Christian. That is not what Christianity is about. I support all religions and actively learn about them. I think the Jewish fauth and Buddists are fascinating in particular. Are they goung to hell? I dont think so. Religion is a choice, God or Allah or whoever your higher power is, if you believe in one, is not going to persecute you. Its what you personally believe and there is nothing wrong with it in my Christian opinion. Most Christians I know feel the same. As for those who judge others, you are not a true Christian. We are to spread the good news, not shove it down throats and judge if someone believes differently.




Quoting Anonymous:

In Russia Christians are killed and parents are forced to watch their children be tortured to death for just loving Jesus. How are Christians not persecuted? In Denmark Muslims kill Christians also. In China Christians have to hide their love for Jesus and if they are caught they are harassed and beaten. In America people call Christians hypocrites and other names. All because we know there is one creator who sent his son as an ultimate sacrifice. That is what pisses ppl off about Christians. Yet, no one is pissed that Muslims only pray to Allah and are murdering in Allah's name. Some people worship a Buddha which is an overweight man made figure... I personally can't understand worshipping nature or the sun, I prefer to worship the creator of it all. I'm not mad bc ppl want to worship these things but I know what they worship is an abomination to god. I'm not the judge of what happens to them so I stay out of it. So bc I believe what others worship is an abomination to god that makes me a mean judgmental person? Does anyone know what judgmental means? I would have to be telling u that your totally going to hell and there's nothing that can save you. Instead I say its an abomination. I didn't say your headed for hell so please ppl learn the differences.






Quoting Anonymous:

Maybe because some of them scream the are persecuted for their beliefs when they live in the US. They are not killed for their religious affiliation in the US like they are in other countries. Just one example.




PISCIS29
by Gold Member on Jan. 15, 2013 at 10:44 PM
I want to apologize for yesterday. I was having a VERY bad day and well I should not have taken it our on you. Would you forgive me?😰

Quoting harehelper:

Well, that was my point, obviously they don't know how Christianity works either.

BTW, was there a reason you were "yelling" at me?

Quoting PISCIS29:

How IN THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT?! NEED I REMIND YOU IM CATHOLIC NOT CHRISTIAN! My aunt always tells me I am devout to someone who was never pure!!! So YOU tell me!! IDK WHAT or HOW your religion works.



Quoting harehelper:

I'm sorry, but that makes NO sense whatsoever. Mabye next time you should ask them, if Mary committed adultery then why are they following the bastard child of some unknown Roman soldier or whoever? To believe that Mary committed adultery takes away the ENTIRE foundation of the Christian faith.

Quoting PISCIS29:

Two aunts 3 cousins 5 neighbors and 4 of dd's friends moms and that is without counting the 2 couples who have made it their mission in life to come to my house almost every friggin Saturday trying to convince ..... No to shove their religion down my throats and as soon as they see my Virgin Mary pendant they go off on who or how she was and yeah I know they're Christian bc they All say it and wear it like a badge of honor. So excuse me if I'm a TAD bit tired of hearing the same old Christian values.





Quoting harehelper:

Um, how do you know any Christians who think Mary was an adulterous woman?

Quoting PISCIS29:

BC the Christians I know always ask me why I'm devout to the Virgin Mary who was according to "their " religion nothing more than an adulterous woman, bc I have to hear them say that I worship satans incarnate on earth which is the pope bc me confessing my sins to a sinners is horrible! No offense but the Christians I know are always trying to shove their religion down my throat. I don't like it and I'll say it in your face and any other rude Christian here and any where else. EVEN YOU have to admit that there are those who take it to far.




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mom25013
by on Jan. 16, 2013 at 4:30 AM

Good Point!

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Jan. 16, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Unfortunately you are right. lol

Quoting Sekirei:


Quoting Anonymous:

Can't we all just get along?

NO!!! 


harehelper
by Platinum Member on Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:36 PM

I have been saying all along that the reason for not calling all these denominations by the same name is because of their differences.

Quoting sha_lyn68:

Who said that they are all the same or that they are all just alike? You are the one falsely assuming that all Christians must believe the exact same thing for them to be considered Christians.

Quoting harehelper:

Ok. *shrug* People tell me lots of things. Doesn't mean I need to agree.

Can you answer this for me? If Catholicism, JWs, Mormons etc are all the same, why do they have different names? If we are all just alike, why are there denominations at all?

Quoting sha_lyn68:

I'm not the only one who has tried telling you numerous times that Catholics, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons etc are Christian. We've even given you links to websites from these various Christian denominations that assert the fact that they are Christian. You seem to be under the impression that you get to decide who is Christian and who is not.

You also seem to have missed the fact that just because I am not longer a Christian, I was one for 35 years,  I've been "in the house" and I've "seen al the rooms". Your denomination of Christianity (which BTW I don't believe you've ever named) is not the only one.

Quoting harehelper:

Yes, we have had this discussion before. The question had a point, you just hadn't gotten it yet. So here it is: You were arguing with me the other day that all Catholics are Christian. I disagree, of course. JWs are not Christian either, and they do go door to door. So since you are not Christian, or JW, or Catholic etc. then why do you feel that you can tell me how any of these religions work, especially my own? You couldn't look in the window of a house and know what all the rooms look like. You also can't be on the outside of a religion and understand it.

Quoting sha_lyn68:

You know fully well that I am not from previous discussions that we have had. Why are you asking an irrlevent question instead of answering mine?


You claim that you've never seen any Christians that go door to door.... Then do tell us, who have you seen go door to door other than Christians? Atheist don't go door to door trying to get you to convert to atheism. Muslims don't go door to door trying to get you to convert to Islam. Buddhists don't go door to door trying to get you to convert to Buddhism. So then do tell us, who goes door to door other than Christians?

Quoting harehelper:

Are you Christian?

Quoting sha_lyn68:

Can you name on religion other than a Christian denomination that goes door to door? Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses and Baptists all tend to go door to door to spread the word of God.

Quoting harehelper:

Christians can't damn you to hell. Only God can do that.

Really? I have never seen any Christians that go door to door, and did you miss the JWs?

Have you also missed the enormous banners that atheists have posted mocking Christianity in places like New York?

Quoting mysticalmalissa:

I think its because the xtains are the only ones that will damn you to hell in public and think they are doing a good thing.

They are the only religion I have ever found to go around knocking on peoples doors and thinking they are above the law to do so even when the property is posted.

They are the only religion I have found that wants to force their belief on everyone. They are the only religion that feels it should be EVERYWHERE.

The other religions you mention are all calm and peaceful. Maybe some of the xtains can learn from them??










harehelper
by Platinum Member on Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Yes of course, I hope today went better for you. :)

Quoting PISCIS29:

I want to apologize for yesterday. I was having a VERY bad day and well I should not have taken it our on you. Would you forgive me?😰

Quoting harehelper:

Well, that was my point, obviously they don't know how Christianity works either.

BTW, was there a reason you were "yelling" at me?

Quoting PISCIS29:

How IN THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT?! NEED I REMIND YOU IM CATHOLIC NOT CHRISTIAN! My aunt always tells me I am devout to someone who was never pure!!! So YOU tell me!! IDK WHAT or HOW your religion works.



Quoting harehelper:

I'm sorry, but that makes NO sense whatsoever. Mabye next time you should ask them, if Mary committed adultery then why are they following the bastard child of some unknown Roman soldier or whoever? To believe that Mary committed adultery takes away the ENTIRE foundation of the Christian faith.

Quoting PISCIS29:

Two aunts 3 cousins 5 neighbors and 4 of dd's friends moms and that is without counting the 2 couples who have made it their mission in life to come to my house almost every friggin Saturday trying to convince ..... No to shove their religion down my throats and as soon as they see my Virgin Mary pendant they go off on who or how she was and yeah I know they're Christian bc they All say it and wear it like a badge of honor. So excuse me if I'm a TAD bit tired of hearing the same old Christian values.





Quoting harehelper:

Um, how do you know any Christians who think Mary was an adulterous woman?

Quoting PISCIS29:

BC the Christians I know always ask me why I'm devout to the Virgin Mary who was according to "their " religion nothing more than an adulterous woman, bc I have to hear them say that I worship satans incarnate on earth which is the pope bc me confessing my sins to a sinners is horrible! No offense but the Christians I know are always trying to shove their religion down my throat. I don't like it and I'll say it in your face and any other rude Christian here and any where else. EVEN YOU have to admit that there are those who take it to far.





PISCIS29
by Gold Member on Jan. 16, 2013 at 7:26 PM
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It was thank you. I hope you have a great day too

Quoting harehelper:

Yes of course, I hope today went better for you. :)

Quoting PISCIS29:

I want to apologize for yesterday. I was having a VERY bad day and well I should not have taken it our on you. Would you forgive me?😰



Quoting harehelper:

Well, that was my point, obviously they don't know how Christianity works either.

BTW, was there a reason you were "yelling" at me?

Quoting PISCIS29:

How IN THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT?! NEED I REMIND YOU IM CATHOLIC NOT CHRISTIAN! My aunt always tells me I am devout to someone who was never pure!!! So YOU tell me!! IDK WHAT or HOW your religion works.





Quoting harehelper:

I'm sorry, but that makes NO sense whatsoever. Mabye next time you should ask them, if Mary committed adultery then why are they following the bastard child of some unknown Roman soldier or whoever? To believe that Mary committed adultery takes away the ENTIRE foundation of the Christian faith.

Quoting PISCIS29:

Two aunts 3 cousins 5 neighbors and 4 of dd's friends moms and that is without counting the 2 couples who have made it their mission in life to come to my house almost every friggin Saturday trying to convince ..... No to shove their religion down my throats and as soon as they see my Virgin Mary pendant they go off on who or how she was and yeah I know they're Christian bc they All say it and wear it like a badge of honor. So excuse me if I'm a TAD bit tired of hearing the same old Christian values.







Quoting harehelper:

Um, how do you know any Christians who think Mary was an adulterous woman?

Quoting PISCIS29:

BC the Christians I know always ask me why I'm devout to the Virgin Mary who was according to "their " religion nothing more than an adulterous woman, bc I have to hear them say that I worship satans incarnate on earth which is the pope bc me confessing my sins to a sinners is horrible! No offense but the Christians I know are always trying to shove their religion down my throat. I don't like it and I'll say it in your face and any other rude Christian here and any where else. EVEN YOU have to admit that there are those who take it to far.





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