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So you still think Obama isn't a communist?? or better yet a Progressive Socialist LAST EDIT gotta run

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First They Came .... poem by Martin Niemöller

"In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."

-- by Martin Niemöller, prominent German anti-Nazi theologian and Lutheran pastor, best known as the author of the poem First they came

It amazes me how many of you just don't get it.  Doesnt matter what the EO's are.  The POINT is an elected offical sat at his desk and deceided HE knew best and signed us up to spend 500 million dollars ( that we don't have BTW) on 23 EO's without due process. THAT is the point.  


23 executive orders that no one can vote on...debate....nothing.  he just implements 500 million dollars of new directives and laws.  Let me hear your excuses why anyone as an American citizen in a supposed Democratic society would be ok with BS like this.  

WASHINGTON (AP) - Without waiting for Congress, President Barack Obama on Wednesday announced a sweeping $500 million program to curb gun violence, setting up a fight over universal background checks and bans on military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines, in the wake of the Connecticut school shooting.

Obama also used his presidential powers to issue 23 orders that don't require congressional approval. The largely incremental executive steps include requiring federal agencies to make more data available for background checks, appointing a fulltime director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and directing the Centers for Disease Control to research gun violence.

But the president, speaking at the White House, acknowledged the most effective actions must be taken by lawmakers.

"To make a real and lasting difference, Congress must act," Obama said. "And Congress must act soon."

Obama was flanked by children who wrote him letters about gun violence in the weeks following the Newtown shooting. Families of the 20 children killed in the massacre, as well as survivors, were also in the audience along with law enforcement officers and members of Congress.

"This is our first task as a society, keeping our children safe," Obama said. "This is how we will be judged."

The president based his proposals on recommendations from an administration-wide task force led by Vice President Joe Biden.

Obama seeks to enhance gun background checks

President Barack Obama is asking Congress to expand background checks on gun buyers to include private sales and is using his executive authority to increase the information available in data banks in the background check system. The White House calls background checks the most efficient and effective way to keep guns away from dangerous individuals.

Obama wants Congress to close loopholes that permit private gun transactions to occur without background checks. The White House says nearly 40 percent of gun sales are conducted by private individuals now exempt from checking the backgrounds of buyers.

Obama is also ordering federal agencies to make "relevant data" available to the federal background check system and to remove barriers that might prevent states from providing information, particularly mental health data, for background checks.

Poll: 6 in 10 favor stricter gun laws

Nearly six in 10 Americans want stricter gun laws in the aftermath of last month's deadly school shooting in Connecticut, with majorities favoring a nationwide ban on military-style, rapid-fire weapons and limits on gun violence depicted in video games, movies and TV shows, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll.

A lopsided 84 percent of adults would like to see the establishment of a federal standard for background checks for people buying guns at gun shows, the poll showed.

Three-quarters of Americans said they reacted to the Connecticut massacre with deep anger, while 54 percent said they felt deeply ashamed it could happen in the United States.

President Barack Obama was set Wednesday to unveil a wide-ranging package of steps for reducing gun violence, expected to include a proposed ban on assault weapons, limits on the capacity of ammunition magazines and universal background checks for gun sales.

Many of the more restrictive proposals under consideration, such as the assault-weapons ban, would face stiff congressional opposition, particularly among Republicans.

By contrast, the general public appears receptive to stronger federal action following the Dec. 14 shooting spree at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., which claimed the lives of 20 children and six adults.

Some 58 percent favor strengthening gun laws in the United States. Just 5 percent felt such laws should be loosened, while 35 percent said they should be left unchanged.

In comparison, after the Virginia Tech shootings in 2007, an Associated Press-Ipsos poll found that 47 percent wanted stricter gun laws, 38 percent thought they should remain as is and 11 percent wanted to see them loosened.

Caroline Konczey, 63, a retired Navy officer from Indio, Calif., is among those supporting a ban on military-style assault weapons. "I can't imagine why anyone would want one," she said. "What do you do with that, unless you're a collector?"

She suggested an underlying source of gun violence was the breakdown of the nuclear family and a lack of access to mental health care. "Until you strengthen the structure of the family that teaches respect for people, then this stuff goes down," she said.

Specifically, majorities in the new poll favored a nationwide ban on military-style, rapid-fire guns (55 percent) and limits on the amount and type of gun violence that can be portrayed in video games, movies or on television (54 percent). About half (51 percent) of those surveyed back a ban on the sale of magazines holding 10 or more bullets.

At the same time 51 percent said that they believed laws limiting gun ownership infringe on the public's Second Amendment right to possess and carry firearms. Among Republicans, 75 percent cited such infringement.

Most Democrats (76 percent) and independents (60 percent) back stricter gun laws, while a majority of Republicans (53 percent) want gun laws left alone.

There is also a gender gap. Gun control is a more important issue for women, with 68 percent saying it was very or extremely important to them, than for men (57 percent). And women are more likely to back stricter gun laws: 67 percent favor them, compared with 49 percent of men.

"Military-style weapons should be military guns, not John Q. Public guns," said Ellen Huffman, 55, of Huntersville, N.C., who supports a ban on assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines.

Huffman said early detection of mental health problems would go a long way to curbing gun violence. If such problems are caught early enough "you won't have people killing people," she said.

Among gun owners, just 40 percent back a ban on the sale of military-type, rapid-fire guns, and 37 percent favor a ban on high-capacity magazines, while 66 percent of non-gun owners would ban military-style weapons and 60 percent would ban high-capacity magazines.

However, 80 percent of gun owners do support federal standards for gun-show background checks, as do 87 percent of non-gun owners.

Gun owners lean more Republican than the overall public. Fifty-five percent of them are Republicans, compared with 30 percent who are Democrats.

Overall, 3 in 10 said the shootings caused them to wonder whether you could really be safe anywhere these days, up slightly from 25 percent after Virginia Tech, with parents more apt to react with deep worries about safety issues than non-parents.

And residents of the Northeast were much more likely than those in other regions to say the events in Newtown made them feel strongly that there may be too many guns in this country - 46 percent, vs. 35 percent reacting that way in the South, 30 percent in the West and 28 percent in the Midwest.

Max Lude, 70, a retired teacher from West Frankfort, Ill., said limiting magazines to 10 rounds "is probably the smartest thing they can do" to reduce mass tragedies. Mandatory background checks also would help, as would mandatory prison sentences for those convicted of gun grimes, said Lude, a National Rifle Association member and hunter-safety instructor.

"It's a complicated problem with a complicated solution," he said. "It's not just a one-time, quick-fix deal."

The gun control debate heated up after Adam Lanza, 20, shot his way into the Newtown school on Dec. 14 and killed 26 people before committing suicide. Lanza also killed his mother at her home before the shooting spree. His mother kept guns at the home she shared with her son.

The poll of 1,004 adults was conducted by telephone Jan. 10-14, 2013. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Posted by Anonymous on Jan. 16, 2013 at 12:53 PM
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rfhsure
by beast mode on Jan. 16, 2013 at 12:56 PM
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I didn't care to read that article because its way too long and I'm tired. But I don't see how obama's stance on gun control has anything to do with communism. Obama is actually not like a communist at all. If you're relating him to a communist because of the prevalent figures of communist dictatorship, just try and pass him off as a dictator if that's what you're getting at. But yeah, definitely not a communist, or a socialist. not even close.

Pooobaihr
by Platinum Member on Jan. 16, 2013 at 12:57 PM
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Uncle Ben's rice is yummy.

Leobaby2007
by on Jan. 16, 2013 at 12:58 PM
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Add hypocrite to the list of whatever else you want to call him. Ugh. Just ugh.

Sekirei
by LoKitty on Jan. 16, 2013 at 12:58 PM

I am eating miso ramen right now

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Jan. 16, 2013 at 12:59 PM
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Exactly why I just bought two new guns and amo . He is out of control and infringing on my civil rights
Anonymous
by Anonymous on Jan. 16, 2013 at 1:00 PM
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Go Obama! I'm proud to have a president that is making changes!
Anonymous
by Anonymous - Original Poster on Jan. 16, 2013 at 1:00 PM
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Well if you can't be bothered to actually read the FACTS why would you bother to comment.  he ORDERED 23 "laws" circumventing our system.  THAT is exactly what dictators do.  But thats ok you keep your head in the sand like most of the uneducated Americans as we gain momentum down that slippery slope losing all our liberties and turning into a socialist state where the nanny government tells us what to do because they know whats best for us.  You know the EXACT opposite of what America supposedly stands for...SMDH

Quoting rfhsure:

I didn't care to read that article because its way too long and I'm tired. But I don't see how obama's stance on gun control has anything to do with communism. Obama is actually not like a communist at all. If you're relating him to a communist because of the prevalent figures of communist dictatorship, just try and pass him off as a dictator if that's what you're getting at. But yeah, definitely not a communist, or a socialist. not even close.


mommytoacloud
by Angel on Jan. 16, 2013 at 1:01 PM
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i think hes an antichrist

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Jan. 16, 2013 at 1:02 PM
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He's a socialist.  Not a communist.

And the SC can overrule executive orders.  But because they've already held that reasonable gun laws are constitutional, they won't.

Carry on with your propaganda.....

Anonymous
by Anonymous - Original Poster on Jan. 16, 2013 at 1:02 PM
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Quoting Anonymous:

Go Obama! I'm proud to have a president that is making changes!

Your proud to have a president who abuses his power?  What happens when its 23 executive orders AGAINST you?  Will it be ok then??

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