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PA debaters. A new wording of an old question.

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Would you rather your PA tax money go toward helping a family eat or paying for day care?

Let us speculate only on 2 working moms.

Abby works full time but needs assistance with child care for her 2 childern aged 6 months and 3 years.

Susan works part time in the evening so her children (same ages) are always with a parent. They have enough money for bills but need pa for food.

If Abby cut her hours she wouldn't be able to pay their bills, and if Susan worked more hours they would need daycare as well. Which mom is more "worthy" of your tax money?
Posted by Anonymous on Jan. 22, 2013 at 12:53 AM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Jan. 22, 2013 at 1:05 AM
That makes sense to me.


Quoting Anonymous:

Daycare costs significantly more than food.  I would rather pay for food than daycare.  When the kids are older and do not need daycare, it will be easier for both women to find a job during the hours they are at school and not have to pay for that care.  That being said, I honestly do not give a damn if people are on PA.  Just saying if I had to choose, that is what I would choose.


ElitestJen
by on Jan. 22, 2013 at 1:07 AM
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Abby.  She has a future with payraises, promotions, and skill-building opportunities.

Oh...and unless you live in La-La Land "bills" are lower on the hierarchy of needs than food. 

Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Jan. 22, 2013 at 1:09 AM
That wasn't the question. The question is how you would like your PA tax money spent. Because like it or not someone is getting that money. The government will gladly take the taxes out for the other things you mentioned as welln


Quoting Anonymous:

No, no...I want people to start being responsible, and depend only on themselves...Did you know that you can live WITHOUT having sex? Did you know that you can use your OWN money to buy birth control??? I want my tax money going toward things like public education, roads, emergency responders, and not to compensate for some one's bad decisions.....



Quoting Anonymous:

So you want your tax money going toward free BC or abortions for all couples?





Quoting Anonymous:

they both need to stop having kids they can't afford!!







Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Jan. 22, 2013 at 1:14 AM
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If Susan can get help for food, then yes bills would come first. If she had to choose between rent OR feeding her kids you would be correct.

Also I never said what job Abby is doing. She could also be working min wage with no future, just more hours.


Quoting ElitestJen:

Abby.  She has a future with payraises, promotions, and skill-building opportunities.

Oh...and unless you live in La-La Land "bills" are lower on the hierarchy of needs than food. 


Anonymous
by Anonymous 5 on Jan. 22, 2013 at 1:15 AM
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Devils volleyball here...federal/state taxes goes to EVERYONE in the grand scheme of things...correct? For lets say,emergency systems,horrible roads,public education (supposedly),and so on. You yourself use up taxes as we all do. Regardless on how much of a percentage. How many who truly complain about "paying for pa recipients" truly know how much really goes for what program? I'm hoping at least 50% truly,truly have checked it. You might be surprised. The ones that are complaining so much about paying for others might just want to hold back on that a tad,for now. Where this once great nation is headed you just might be "in line" with the rest of them. Be careful on saying never...the government doesn't care and has it's own agenda(not a crack directed at Obama by the way). You can't stay on your audience free soapbox forever. That is all.

Quoting Anonymous:

No, no...I want people to start being responsible, and depend only on themselves...Did you know that you can live WITHOUT having sex? Did you know that you can use your OWN money to buy birth control??? I want my tax money going toward things like public education, roads, emergency responders, and not to compensate for some one's bad decisions.....



Quoting Anonymous:

So you want your tax money going toward free BC or abortions for all couples?





Quoting Anonymous:

they both need to stop having kids they can't afford!!






Nicoleb9
by Emerald Member on Jan. 22, 2013 at 1:16 AM
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I would prefer daycare vouchers over just handing over a food stamp card with no expectation of them working just because they have a baby.
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 3 on Jan. 22, 2013 at 1:17 AM
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Assuming there is a requirement that PA money be spent, and it must be spent on low income families...I'd like to see it go toward education, classes on how to make better financial decisions, how to live within your means, how to get better jobs, how birth control works...how to cook so they aren't buying prepackaged crap all the time....education vs handouts!

Quoting Anonymous:

That wasn't the question. The question is how you would like your PA tax money spent. Because like it or not someone is getting that money. The government will gladly take the taxes out for the other things you mentioned as welln


Quoting Anonymous:

No, no...I want people to start being responsible, and depend only on themselves...Did you know that you can live WITHOUT having sex? Did you know that you can use your OWN money to buy birth control??? I want my tax money going toward things like public education, roads, emergency responders, and not to compensate for some one's bad decisions.....



Quoting Anonymous:

So you want your tax money going toward free BC or abortions for all couples?





Quoting Anonymous:

they both need to stop having kids they can't afford!!









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by Ruby Member on Jan. 22, 2013 at 1:17 AM
Susan would need daycare as well? As well as foodstamps? Why would she need both suddenly? Wouldn't her hrs at work cover something?
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ElitestJen
by on Jan. 22, 2013 at 1:18 AM
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All jobs have a future. That's an excuse.

And food should always come before bills. One can live without electricity or heat. Food is required for survival.


Quoting Anonymous:

If Susan can get help for food, then yes bills would come first. If she had to choose between rent OR feeding her kids you would be correct.



Also I never said what job Abby is doing. She could also be working min wage with no future, just more hours.




Quoting ElitestJen:

Abby.  She has a future with payraises, promotions, and skill-building opportunities.

Oh...and unless you live in La-La Land "bills" are lower on the hierarchy of needs than food. 



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Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Jan. 22, 2013 at 1:19 AM
Both women in the example are working. Both would have to show proof of household income to receive either assistance.


Quoting Nicoleb9:

I would prefer daycare vouchers over just handing over a food stamp card with no expectation of them working just because they have a baby.

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