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 Leon Panetta is removing the military's ban on women serving in combat, opening hundreds of thousands of front-line positions and potentially elite commando jobs after more than a decade at war.

The groundbreaking move recommended by the Joint Chiefs of Staff overturns a 1994 rule prohibiting women from being assigned to smaller ground combat units. Panetta's decision gives the military services until January 2016 to seek special exceptions if they believe any positions must remain closed to women.

A senior military official says the services will develop plans for allowing women to seek the combat positions. Some jobs may open as soon as this year. Assessments for others, such as special operations forces, including Navy SEALS and the Army's Delta Force, may take longer.

Panetta's move expands the Pentagon's action nearly a year ago to open about 14,500 combat positions to women, nearly all of them in the Army. This decision could open more than 230,000 jobs, many in Army and Marine infantry units, to women.

In recent years the necessities of war propelled women into jobs as medics, military police and intelligence officers that were sometimes attached — but not formally assigned — to units on the front lines.

any thoughts on this ?

anyone think this is a bad idea ? if so why ?

by on Jan. 23, 2013 at 6:21 PM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 10 on Jan. 24, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Women have always been at the front lines in harms way.  Now they get equal hazard pay for their efforts.  I say this has been too long in coming.  If women are being killed and blown up they should always receive the same pay as men.

MrsDavidB25
by Stacey on Jan. 24, 2013 at 12:13 PM

 Well you would think. But, they won't.

Quoting forgottenluv:

 thanks . im clueless when it comes to all that stuff ,

so i would think if they want to be treated like a man as far as jobs then they should have all the same testing

Quoting MrsDavidB25:

 They each have to also do a run and sit-ups, but the times are less for women and they are required to do less situps compared to the men also.

Quoting forgottenluv:

 is there other things that the men had to do and the women did not ?

Quoting MrsDavidB25:

 

 Women have always had to do push ups. It is PULL UPS they will now be required to do.


 

 

 

 

MrsDavidB25
by Stacey on Jan. 24, 2013 at 12:17 PM

 

Quoting Anonymous:

Women have always been at the front lines in harms way.  Now they get equal hazard pay for their efforts.  I say this has been too long in coming.  If women are being killed and blown up they should always receive the same pay as men.

 Say what? there is no special pay if you are on the front lines. LOL

Anonymous
by Anonymous 11 on Jan. 24, 2013 at 12:18 PM
As long as the person is physically or mentally capable they should be able to do any job they want reguardless of their sex.
lucsch
by on Jan. 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM

I think it is a bad idea, but it is an opportunity to some. If they want to do it, go for it. I won't complain, but I may shake my head. I'm one who thinks that men and women have different roles for which they are better suited. I don't think they are interchangeable parts, if you will.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 12 on Jan. 24, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Oh please. These women SAY they want to be equal across the board but plenty of them don't really mean it. You might have a few bad asses that can actually do what's required of them but most of them can't physically perform on the same level as a man. That's just truth.

Interesting side note- I am watching HLN and this just came across the screen and I pulled it off of CNN.

(CNN) -- Despite access to free contraceptives, unplanned pregnancies are a rising problem for women in the U.S. military, according to a new study.

Nearly 11% of more than 7,000 active-duty women surveyed by the Department of Defense in 2008 reported an unplanned pregnancy during the previous year. That's 50% higher than the average rate in the United States, the study authors say. The study, publishing next month in the journal Obstetrics & Gynecology, also notes that the rate has increased since 2005.

Authors Dr. Daniel Grossman and Kate Grindlay analyzed data from the 2005 and 2008 Department of Defense Survey of Health Related Behaviors, which they obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request.

"It's alarming," Grossman said of the increasing rate. "When you're in the military, that's actually one time where you have access to free, good quality health care. ... It really highlights the need to better address contraceptive care."

The military offers FDA-approved contraceptives, including emergency contraception, at no cost in its medical facilities, according to Shoshona Pilip-Florea, spokeswoman for the U.S. Navy Bureau of Medicine and Surgery.

50% higher than the national average?! Those of us who have had anything to do with the military know that there are some women who will intentionally get pregnant to avoid deployment. The article reads "unplanned" but I know for the most part that isn't true. Women know what they are doing...We need to be careful about what we ask for. They may just give us so much rope to hang ourselves. If we are going to be equal in every situation we may one day end up in non segregated prisons. Can you imagine women trying to survive in those? We all should know our lanes. Women don't belong in the mens.

 

Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on Jan. 24, 2013 at 12:39 PM

 

Quoting Anonymous:

Oh please. These women SAY they want to be equal across the board but plenty of them don't really mean it. You might have a few bad asses that can actually do what's required of them but most of them can't physically perform on the same level as a man. That's just truth.

Interesting side note- I am watching HLN and this just came across the screen and I pulled it off of CNN.

50% higher than the national average?! Those of us who have had anything to do with the military know that there are some women who will intentionally get pregnant to avoid deployment. The article reads "unplanned" but I know for the most part that isn't true. Women know what they are doing...We need to be careful about what we ask for. They may just give us so much rope to hang ourselves. If we are going to be equal in every situation we may one day end up in non segregated prisons. Can you imagine women trying to survive in those? We all should know our lanes. Women don't belong in the mens.

 

 Yes ma'am. Though I believe if the woman can do it, let her. But then again, the whole pregnancy thing does raise a lot of questions for me. I know more women who have gone on deployments and didn't get pregnant than those who did. But still, those few are proof that these devil women do exist. It's so annoying and not fair when you have dual military couples or single parents that leave their kids but this 1 woman can't find it in her heart to leave hers she ups and gets pregnant, still collecting a paycheck, still back in garrison in the comfort of her home, complaining. Really annoys me because it is not fair to those of us who leave ours. Pisses me off actually.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 12 on Jan. 24, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Yah I agree with you. If Jane can physically do what Joe can do, then let her ass do it if she wants to. But reality check will kick in for the rest- they just can't. There will be a lot of  "Rear D, here I come". Or something else. This will be interesting tho. And that is shitty about the dual mil thing. Smh.

 

Quoting Anonymous:

 

Quoting Anonymous:

Oh please. These women SAY they want to be equal across the board but plenty of them don't really mean it. You might have a few bad asses that can actually do what's required of them but most of them can't physically perform on the same level as a man. That's just truth.

Interesting side note- I am watching HLN and this just came across the screen and I pulled it off of CNN.

50% higher than the national average?! Those of us who have had anything to do with the military know that there are some women who will intentionally get pregnant to avoid deployment. The article reads "unplanned" but I know for the most part that isn't true. Women know what they are doing...We need to be careful about what we ask for. They may just give us so much rope to hang ourselves. If we are going to be equal in every situation we may one day end up in non segregated prisons. Can you imagine women trying to survive in those? We all should know our lanes. Women don't belong in the mens.

 

 Yes ma'am. Though I believe if the woman can do it, let her. But then again, the whole pregnancy thing does raise a lot of questions for me. I know more women who have gone on deployments and didn't get pregnant than those who did. But still, those few are proof that these devil women do exist. It's so annoying and not fair when you have dual military couples or single parents that leave their kids but this 1 woman can't find it in her heart to leave hers she ups and gets pregnant, still collecting a paycheck, still back in garrison in the comfort of her home, complaining. Really annoys me because it is not fair to those of us who leave ours. Pisses me off actually.

 

 

Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on Jan. 24, 2013 at 12:52 PM

 Right. But I also hope that the military is prepared for the possible rise in sexual assaults/sexual assault claims. You know, the more I think about it, the more I'm coming up with reasons why it shouldn't happen. But still, if they want to and can then so be it. I just don't want to be apart of it, lol. Tell me I have to go be combat arms, guess I'll be PCSing to Ft. Livingroom. I'll pass on that.

Quoting Anonymous:

Yah I agree with you. If Jane can physically do what Joe can do, then let her ass do it if she wants to. But reality check will kick in for the rest- they just can't. There will be a lot of  "Rear D, here I come". Or something else. This will be interesting tho. And that is shitty about the dual mil thing. Smh.

 

Quoting Anonymous:

 

Quoting Anonymous:

Oh please. These women SAY they want to be equal across the board but plenty of them don't really mean it. You might have a few bad asses that can actually do what's required of them but most of them can't physically perform on the same level as a man. That's just truth.

Interesting side note- I am watching HLN and this just came across the screen and I pulled it off of CNN.

50% higher than the national average?! Those of us who have had anything to do with the military know that there are some women who will intentionally get pregnant to avoid deployment. The article reads "unplanned" but I know for the most part that isn't true. Women know what they are doing...We need to be careful about what we ask for. They may just give us so much rope to hang ourselves. If we are going to be equal in every situation we may one day end up in non segregated prisons. Can you imagine women trying to survive in those? We all should know our lanes. Women don't belong in the mens.

 

 Yes ma'am. Though I believe if the woman can do it, let her. But then again, the whole pregnancy thing does raise a lot of questions for me. I know more women who have gone on deployments and didn't get pregnant than those who did. But still, those few are proof that these devil women do exist. It's so annoying and not fair when you have dual military couples or single parents that leave their kids but this 1 woman can't find it in her heart to leave hers she ups and gets pregnant, still collecting a paycheck, still back in garrison in the comfort of her home, complaining. Really annoys me because it is not fair to those of us who leave ours. Pisses me off actually.

 

 

 

1likeme
by Gold Member on Jan. 24, 2013 at 12:53 PM
Quoting Tooth_Inspector:




Right because men never go to combat and develop PTSD. Men also never get injured while in combat. Men never commit suicide during and after their military service. It's mind boggling to me that anyone would claim that men are better equipped to deal with combat situation than women. If that were true then men would come back mentally sound and emotionally stable.
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