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This is something that has really been bothering me as of late with all of the race posts that have been coming up (in this group as well as other groups I frequent). It bothers me that I am reading so much about  white people having it so much easier and whatnot but if you say anything about being black then you don't know and will never understand..... blah blah blah. But apparently you know exactly what it is like to be white since they know we have it easier? How is this? I love that people expect you to see things their way yet have a habit of never attempting to see things through anyone else's eyes. If you can't see someone else's side and understand where they are coming from then how in the world do you expect them to do as much for you?

I also believe that if you are always looking for racism that you will always find it. If you go in not feeling equal then you make it so. Life is a self fulfilling prophecy if you are told by parents and siblings that you will always be at a disadvantage, always be down and out and misunderstood then you (subconsciously) do it to yourself and then pass these viewpoints down. I really believe that as a society we could over come racism but their has to be a lot more open mindedness & communication then there has been. Less blame and more discussion everyone has to learn to hear the other persons side and what certain things feel like and make a valid attempt to understand it.... it may not be the same as yours but remember not everything has to be a pissing contest of who has it harder.... having never lived through someone else's life you don't know what its like or what it did to them.

rant over.

Posted by Anonymous on Jan. 26, 2013 at 12:32 AM
Replies (41-50):
your_angel
by on Jan. 26, 2013 at 1:17 AM
That's the mystery you never know. And you're right it very well could have been because she was a woman. Like I said its easier to assume the worst but I promise you my mom is no victim of race. The only time we know its bbecause of our race is when we're flat out told. And please believe that this does and has happened.

Quoting Cookie-kisses:

I don't doubt it happens,But your mom simply could of lost the job as she was a woman. That has happened to many of us. I have been turned down for places to live before; several times as well.   I was sexually harrassed at many jobs. Was it  all because I was white?  

Quoting your_angel:

Actually no I've never been turned down from a job for that but I have been denied housing. I went to go look at a house to rent and I was told I don't lease to your kind. My mother got passed up for a promotion in her field of work years ago when she's worked for them for 30 years has her Ph.d and is well known for all her accomplishments iin the field to a 50 year old white man with a bachelors degree and no time in his field in that state. Lmfao but I'm sure you'll try to convince me that as educated she is and as long as she's been working in her field that she probably just wasn't right for the job or they had another reason for choosing him.

Bitch pplease. The sad thing is most people know they've been discriminated against for being black because their told!!! I never assume. You really think no ones every told me point blank no I wont "serve your kind" getting the Fu k outta here with that nieve mess. Grow up seriously. That shit happens on a regular basis. That's how we KNOW it was because of our race.







Any other questions????




Quoting Anonymous:

Have you ever been turned down for a job because you were black? Or was it something else and you just say it was because you're black?


I see that all too often. Sorry. I don't buy that, They treat me different because I'm black. You just think its because you're black, when really, it could be  a number of things.




Quoting your_angel:

So as a white person you get turned down for jobs and such because of your race? I think not. Black ppl say they "have it harder" sometimes because we are judged soley on race by some ppl not everyone. The first time you're ever denied something for being "white" THEN and only then can you say you've seen things from our point of view.


I don't think I have it harder than anyone but I do know that racism still exist whether you look for it or not.


Honestly don't rant about shit you have no idea about. Just like some ppl may not have walked a mile in your shoes I highly doubt you walked a foot in theirs.






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Retrokitty
by Jasmyne on Jan. 26, 2013 at 1:17 AM
I figured you were something by your use if neechie ;I didn't mean that in a rude way I just couldn't think if a nicer way to say it)
It saddens me that its 10x harder for First Nations to do anything in the law. Reserves are also becoming such a mess. The govrenment doesn't provide enough housing so people are living with too many in a house, then the govrenment puts the children in foster care because of unsafe living conditions. It's a sad cycle.


Quoting Mocking.Jay:

I agree with you. I'm ojibwe.



Quoting Retrokitty:

I live in Canada as well. Although I do think aboriginals are being treated unfairly by the govrenment in today's society (the Indian act) I don't think people should dwell on past mistreatings. If that makes sense.






Quoting Mocking.Jay:

That's weird. White to blacks in America is to whites to First Nations here in Canada. Everywhere you go there is a damn neechie screaming race and I wonder why I get called a welfare bum all the time. :(


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Anonymous
by Anonymous 12 on Jan. 26, 2013 at 1:18 AM
1 mom liked this


I find it ironic that she has the nerve to say anything to you about your spelling and grammar when she has plenty of misspelled words in her responses. But hey, who's judging?

Quoting your_angel:

One I'm on my cell phone not typing. Two I find it ironic that you supposedly know so much about working when you don't do it lmao.
You're ideals on affirmative action are wildly untrue. You've honestly just got to be making stuff up period.
Why don't you go into working field THEN come try and rap to me about what you know. Until then don't you have like a house to clean or some dishes to do?


Quoting StrawberryCool:

So for being "educated" you have poor spelling/grammar.



And depending on the state they can sue.




Quoting your_angel:

People can and will do what they want. But you sit at home and keep telling yourself that they can't. There's a post where many women say they were fired for being pregnant or after getting pregnant. Women of all races. But let me guess....their employer can't do that so they're all lying right?


Who woulda thunk it people which don't follow the rules whhhaaattttt?






Quoting StrawberryCool:

Lmao.







I cam go out and get whatever job I want. But I chose to stay at home







Secondly there are discrimtion rules.







Let me remind you







Race



Age



Sex



Pregnancy



Weight



Height.







I dp believe those are it.....they can not deny you because you are black you will get the offer first.







But keep thinking that.








Quoting your_angel:

I'm not sure if you're new at this or not but since when do people start doing what their supposed to? You really think that just because an employer is told to make sure they hire so many people of different races they will? Why because there's consequences if they don't? Not to mention why do you think rules like that were set up? To give minorities a chance.




Oh and trust me if you and I were up for the same job they'd pick me because I'm educated articulate and interview well not because I'm black sweetie. We're on two totally different levels mama ;)










Quoting StrawberryCool:

Too bad that no one is allowed to deny yoy because of your race.











Secondly,











Youd get a job before I do because of your race.











They have to hire minority first and thats you.











So I could be the best person for the postion.











But because youre a different color that means Youll get job.












Quoting your_angel:

So as a white person you get turned down for jobs and such because of your race? I think not. Black ppl say they "have it harder" sometimes because we are judged soley on race by some ppl not everyone. The first time you're ever denied something for being "white" THEN and only then can you say you've seen things from our point of view.






I don't think I have it harder than anyone but I do know that racism still exist whether you look for it or not.






Honestly don't rant about shit you have no idea about. Just like some ppl may not have walked a mile in your shoes I highly doubt you walked a foot in theirs.





StrawberryCool
by on Jan. 26, 2013 at 1:19 AM
One ive been in the work force and had to quit because of black teens...my aunt is a manager at a gas station, few black girls/boys have been late. Store manage has told aunt that they wont write them up or fire them simply because they are black.

I had to go through a program at job corps and it tought me all about discrimation.

And again, if you are in a fire at will state like PA, then no you cant do anything.

And not at 130am nope I dont.

And im mobile as well...

See, hardly any mistakes.


Quoting your_angel:

One I'm on my cell phone not typing. Two I find it ironic that you supposedly know so much about working when you don't do it lmao.

You're ideals on affirmative action are wildly untrue. You've honestly just got to be making stuff up period.

Why don't you go into working field THEN come try and rap to me about what you know. Until then don't you have like a house to clean or some dishes to do?




Quoting StrawberryCool:

So for being "educated" you have poor spelling/grammar.





And depending on the state they can sue.






Quoting your_angel:

People can and will do what they want. But you sit at home and keep telling yourself that they can't. There's a post where many women say they were fired for being pregnant or after getting pregnant. Women of all races. But let me guess....their employer can't do that so they're all lying right?



Who woulda thunk it people which don't follow the rules whhhaaattttt?








Quoting StrawberryCool:

Lmao.









I cam go out and get whatever job I want. But I chose to stay at home









Secondly there are discrimtion rules.









Let me remind you









Race




Age




Sex




Pregnancy




Weight




Height.









I dp believe those are it.....they can not deny you because you are black you will get the offer first.









But keep thinking that.










Quoting your_angel:

I'm not sure if you're new at this or not but since when do people start doing what their supposed to? You really think that just because an employer is told to make sure they hire so many people of different races they will? Why because there's consequences if they don't? Not to mention why do you think rules like that were set up? To give minorities a chance.





Oh and trust me if you and I were up for the same job they'd pick me because I'm educated articulate and interview well not because I'm black sweetie. We're on two totally different levels mama ;)












Quoting StrawberryCool:

Too bad that no one is allowed to deny yoy because of your race.













Secondly,













Youd get a job before I do because of your race.













They have to hire minority first and thats you.













So I could be the best person for the postion.













But because youre a different color that means Youll get job.














Quoting your_angel:

So as a white person you get turned down for jobs and such because of your race? I think not. Black ppl say they "have it harder" sometimes because we are judged soley on race by some ppl not everyone. The first time you're ever denied something for being "white" THEN and only then can you say you've seen things from our point of view.







I don't think I have it harder than anyone but I do know that racism still exist whether you look for it or not.







Honestly don't rant about shit you have no idea about. Just like some ppl may not have walked a mile in your shoes I highly doubt you walked a foot in theirs.




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Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Jan. 26, 2013 at 1:19 AM

 Are you serious, When was the last time you were White? Tell me. I don't pretend to be Black or know what your life is like. How can you possibly know what my life is like?

But you just proved a point to me. It is very unfortunate to be judged on an assumption.

Quoting zianneaaliyah:

You just proved a point. Isn't it very unfortunate to be judged based on your skin color? I mean, you don't like feeling like someone thinks you have it easy based on your skin color, right? Can you imagine being constantly denied basic rights and common decency based on skin color/stereotypes? Would you sit back and accept it?


 

your_angel
by on Jan. 26, 2013 at 1:20 AM
I never said I didn't believe it happens both ways. I've seen white ppl mistreated and black people. All I'm saying is who do you think gets it worse? And honestly the answer to that question doesn't even matter because its sickening either way.

Quoting Anonymous:

Actually, a few years ago there were major layoffs I'm the police departments. Each officer who was laid off was both male and white. Why? Because the percentage of minorities in the force was too low. By laying off the white men, they raised the percentage of both race and gender minorities. So, yes, you can be white and not get a job because of it.



Quoting your_angel:

So as a white person you get turned down for jobs and such because of your race? I think not. Black ppl say they "have it harder" sometimes because we are judged soley on race by some ppl not everyone. The first time you're ever denied something for being "white" THEN and only then can you say you've seen things from our point of view.


I don't think I have it harder than anyone but I do know that racism still exist whether you look for it or not.


Honestly don't rant about shit you have no idea about. Just like some ppl may not have walked a mile in your shoes I highly doubt you walked a foot in theirs.
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StrawberryCool
by on Jan. 26, 2013 at 1:20 AM
Point them out.

Becausr if I notice a mistake then I fix it....unless its a word for sure that I cant spell I always put SP beside it.

And I at least spell you the right way unlike her in several of her responses.


Quoting Anonymous:


I find it ironic that she has the nerve to say anything to you about your spelling and grammar when she has plenty of misspelled words in her responses. But hey, who's judging?


Quoting your_angel:

One I'm on my cell phone not typing. Two I find it ironic that you supposedly know so much about working when you don't do it lmao.

You're ideals on affirmative action are wildly untrue. You've honestly just got to be making stuff up period.

Why don't you go into working field THEN come try and rap to me about what you know. Until then don't you have like a house to clean or some dishes to do?




Quoting StrawberryCool:

So for being "educated" you have poor spelling/grammar.





And depending on the state they can sue.







Quoting your_angel:

People can and will do what they want. But you sit at home and keep telling yourself that they can't. There's a post where many women say they were fired for being pregnant or after getting pregnant. Women of all races. But let me guess....their employer can't do that so they're all lying right?



Who woulda thunk it people which don't follow the rules whhhaaattttt?








Quoting StrawberryCool:

Lmao.









I cam go out and get whatever job I want. But I chose to stay at home









Secondly there are discrimtion rules.









Let me remind you









Race




Age




Sex




Pregnancy




Weight




Height.









I dp believe those are it.....they can not deny you because you are black you will get the offer first.









But keep thinking that.











Quoting your_angel:

I'm not sure if you're new at this or not but since when do people start doing what their supposed to? You really think that just because an employer is told to make sure they hire so many people of different races they will? Why because there's consequences if they don't? Not to mention why do you think rules like that were set up? To give minorities a chance.





Oh and trust me if you and I were up for the same job they'd pick me because I'm educated articulate and interview well not because I'm black sweetie. We're on two totally different levels mama ;)












Quoting StrawberryCool:

Too bad that no one is allowed to deny yoy because of your race.













Secondly,













Youd get a job before I do because of your race.













They have to hire minority first and thats you.













So I could be the best person for the postion.













But because youre a different color that means Youll get job.















Quoting your_angel:

So as a white person you get turned down for jobs and such because of your race? I think not. Black ppl say they "have it harder" sometimes because we are judged soley on race by some ppl not everyone. The first time you're ever denied something for being "white" THEN and only then can you say you've seen things from our point of view.







I don't think I have it harder than anyone but I do know that racism still exist whether you look for it or not.







Honestly don't rant about shit you have no idea about. Just like some ppl may not have walked a mile in your shoes I highly doubt you walked a foot in theirs.










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Mocking.Jay
by Gold Member on Jan. 26, 2013 at 1:21 AM
Yeah it's residential schools. The cycle won't stop until the Harper govt addresses all the idle no more bs. I'm a different opinion; I don't believe in protesting. I also don't believe in children being involved. They should not be pawns to gain sympathy from a useless government.

Quoting Retrokitty:

I figured you were something by your use if neechie ;I didn't mean that in a rude way I just couldn't think if a nicer way to say it)

It saddens me that its 10x harder for First Nations to do anything in the law. Reserves are also becoming such a mess. The govrenment doesn't provide enough housing so people are living with too many in a house, then the govrenment puts the children in foster care because of unsafe living conditions. It's a sad cycle.




Quoting Mocking.Jay:

I agree with you. I'm ojibwe.





Quoting Retrokitty:

I live in Canada as well. Although I do think aboriginals are being treated unfairly by the govrenment in today's society (the Indian act) I don't think people should dwell on past mistreatings. If that makes sense.








Quoting Mocking.Jay:

That's weird. White to blacks in America is to whites to First Nations here in Canada. Everywhere you go there is a damn neechie screaming race and I wonder why I get called a welfare bum all the time. :(


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CupcakeLuv
by on Jan. 26, 2013 at 1:21 AM
"I don't have a good comeback.....better mention terrible grammar", LOL!!

Quoting your_angel:

One I'm on my cell phone not typing. Two I find it ironic that you supposedly know so much about working when you don't do it lmao.

You're ideals on affirmative action are wildly untrue. You've honestly just got to be making stuff up period.

Why don't you go into working field THEN come try and rap to me about what you know. Until then don't you have like a house to clean or some dishes to do?




Quoting StrawberryCool:

So for being "educated" you have poor spelling/grammar.





And depending on the state they can sue.






Quoting your_angel:

People can and will do what they want. But you sit at home and keep telling yourself that they can't. There's a post where many women say they were fired for being pregnant or after getting pregnant. Women of all races. But let me guess....their employer can't do that so they're all lying right?



Who woulda thunk it people which don't follow the rules whhhaaattttt?








Quoting StrawberryCool:

Lmao.









I cam go out and get whatever job I want. But I chose to stay at home









Secondly there are discrimtion rules.









Let me remind you









Race




Age




Sex




Pregnancy




Weight




Height.









I dp believe those are it.....they can not deny you because you are black you will get the offer first.









But keep thinking that.










Quoting your_angel:

I'm not sure if you're new at this or not but since when do people start doing what their supposed to? You really think that just because an employer is told to make sure they hire so many people of different races they will? Why because there's consequences if they don't? Not to mention why do you think rules like that were set up? To give minorities a chance.





Oh and trust me if you and I were up for the same job they'd pick me because I'm educated articulate and interview well not because I'm black sweetie. We're on two totally different levels mama ;)












Quoting StrawberryCool:

Too bad that no one is allowed to deny yoy because of your race.













Secondly,













Youd get a job before I do because of your race.













They have to hire minority first and thats you.













So I could be the best person for the postion.













But because youre a different color that means Youll get job.














Quoting your_angel:

So as a white person you get turned down for jobs and such because of your race? I think not. Black ppl say they "have it harder" sometimes because we are judged soley on race by some ppl not everyone. The first time you're ever denied something for being "white" THEN and only then can you say you've seen things from our point of view.







I don't think I have it harder than anyone but I do know that racism still exist whether you look for it or not.







Honestly don't rant about shit you have no idea about. Just like some ppl may not have walked a mile in your shoes I highly doubt you walked a foot in theirs.



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your_angel
by on Jan. 26, 2013 at 1:21 AM
Who claimed to know what is was like being white. I assume all she can know is being what she is
Just like I can only talk about my personal experiences being a black woman. I'd die if I had to walk a mile in your shoes!


Quoting Anonymous:

 Are you serious, When was the last time you were White? Tell me. I don't pretend to be Black or know what your life is like. How can you possibly know what my life is like?


But you just proved a point to me. It is very unfortunate to be judged on an assumption.


Quoting zianneaaliyah:



You just proved a point. Isn't it very unfortunate to be judged based on your skin color? I mean, you don't like feeling like someone thinks you have it easy based on your skin color, right? Can you imagine being constantly denied basic rights and common decency based on skin color/stereotypes? Would you sit back and accept it?




 

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