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Want to be a mom to a Neanderthal?


 

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Question: Assuming cloning is done in a moral way (no harvesting organs or hurting the clone in any way) are you for or against cloning a Neanderthal?

Options:

Yes, with or without a human surrogate.

Yes, without a surrogate.

No

Other


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I thought this would be a fun topic. We encourage our children to explore the wonders of science daily. Yet we put restrictions on our current scientists, especially when it comes to the topic of cloning.

My personal opinion is that I think it would be a wonderful learning experience to clone a Neanderthal. I don't see how it is amoral to clone something as long as we are not doing it to harvest organs or hurting the cloned animal/human in any way. I guess I see cloning as just another method of birth. I've always said it doesn't matter how you come into this world. What's important is that you are here and live your life in a good way.

Read the article and tell me what do you think?




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Recently, reports spread like wildfire that Harvard geneticist George Church was seeking an "adventurous female human" to be a surrogate mother to a cloned Neanderthal. Church clarified that he was theorizing about the requirements for a Neanderthal clone, rather than actively trying to create one. For now, there's no indication that any scientist is actively attempting to clone a Neanderthal. But a new HuffPost/YouGov poll finds that most Americans are opposed to allowing any scientist to attempt such a feat -- with or without a human surrogate.

The survey found that only 17 percent of Americans said scientists should be allowed to clone a Neanderthal if it were possible, while 63 percent said it should not be allowed. Support for the idea dropped even lower (though not by much) if a human surrogate were required -- 15 percent said scientists should be allowed to clone a Neanderthal and 66 percent said it should not be allowed under those circumstances.

by on Jan. 31, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Replies (11-20):
stephiebugg
by on Jan. 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM

 Hey, maybe they are the reason we have an appendix! LOL

Quoting SalemWitchChild:

I'm sure some things can be detected with the bones. I'm talking more about the organs, since we know from the bones that Neanderthals were shorter and more stout. They don't know if the organs were placed or worked differently.

Quoting stephiebugg:

 But can't those differences be detected just by using remains, instead of requiring a living neanderthal?

Quoting SalemWitchChild:

Part of it is to say yes we can do this. I don't agree with doing invasive testing. However I do think an MRI wouldn't be a problem. They may not have knowledge of Neanderthal culture but they do have some physical differences. We wouldn't know how much until the cloning is done.

Quoting stephiebugg:

 What exactly would be the point? I mean, so they get this neanderthal and then what? Experiments or medical testing to see how that person is different from us?
If I were a surrogate mom to a neanderthal, I don't think I'd want that type of life for my child, I wouldn't want him/her subjected to all the medical testing, etc.
Therefore, I don't see the point in doing it. It's still a person, not a scientific specimen, and once born into our world as it is now, it's not like they will have any knowledge of behaviors and traditions of the neanderthals of the past. Is there anything to gain from doing this, besides saying, 'yes, we did that'?


 


 

SalemWitchChild
by Blessed be on Jan. 31, 2013 at 11:29 AM
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Quite possibly! I'm sure they would want to find out how intelligent a Neanderthal is capable of being as well. So it's not just medical testing, but allowing the child to grow and learn and observing the physical and mental capabilities.

Quoting stephiebugg:

 Hey, maybe they are the reason we have an appendix! LOL

Quoting SalemWitchChild:

I'm sure some things can be detected with the bones. I'm talking more about the organs, since we know from the bones that Neanderthals were shorter and more stout. They don't know if the organs were placed or worked differently.

Quoting stephiebugg:

 But can't those differences be detected just by using remains, instead of requiring a living neanderthal?

Quoting SalemWitchChild:

Part of it is to say yes we can do this. I don't agree with doing invasive testing. However I do think an MRI wouldn't be a problem. They may not have knowledge of Neanderthal culture but they do have some physical differences. We wouldn't know how much until the cloning is done.

Quoting stephiebugg:

 What exactly would be the point? I mean, so they get this neanderthal and then what? Experiments or medical testing to see how that person is different from us?
If I were a surrogate mom to a neanderthal, I don't think I'd want that type of life for my child, I wouldn't want him/her subjected to all the medical testing, etc.
Therefore, I don't see the point in doing it. It's still a person, not a scientific specimen, and once born into our world as it is now, it's not like they will have any knowledge of behaviors and traditions of the neanderthals of the past. Is there anything to gain from doing this, besides saying, 'yes, we did that'?


 


 


Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on Jan. 31, 2013 at 11:46 AM


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

No such thing as what?

Quoting Anonymous:

No such thing.


As a neanderthal.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on Jan. 31, 2013 at 11:46 AM


Quoting stephiebugg:

 No such thing as??

Quoting Anonymous:

No such thing.

 

Neanderthals

SalemWitchChild
by Blessed be on Jan. 31, 2013 at 11:58 AM

So you think all the Neanderthal skeletons are what? Just humans?

Quoting Anonymous:


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

No such thing as what?

Quoting Anonymous:

No such thing.


As a neanderthal.


Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on Jan. 31, 2013 at 12:00 PM


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

So you think all the Neanderthal skeletons are what? Just humans?

Quoting Anonymous:


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

No such thing as what?

Quoting Anonymous:

No such thing.


As a neanderthal.


Humans or apes. Depends on the skull.

SalemWitchChild
by Blessed be on Jan. 31, 2013 at 12:01 PM

And how did you come to this conclusion?

Quoting Anonymous:


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

So you think all the Neanderthal skeletons are what? Just humans?

Quoting Anonymous:


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

No such thing as what?

Quoting Anonymous:

No such thing.


As a neanderthal.


Humans or apes. Depends on the skull.


Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on Jan. 31, 2013 at 12:03 PM


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

And how did you come to this conclusion?

Quoting Anonymous:


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

So you think all the Neanderthal skeletons are what? Just humans?

Quoting Anonymous:


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

No such thing as what?

Quoting Anonymous:

No such thing.


As a neanderthal.


Humans or apes. Depends on the skull.


How did you come to the conclusion they were neanderthals?

SalemWitchChild
by Blessed be on Jan. 31, 2013 at 12:05 PM

I didn't. Scientists have. I suppose I should ask, how do you come to the conclusion that scientists are wrong?

Quoting Anonymous:


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

And how did you come to this conclusion?

Quoting Anonymous:


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

So you think all the Neanderthal skeletons are what? Just humans?

Quoting Anonymous:


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

No such thing as what?

Quoting Anonymous:

No such thing.


As a neanderthal.


Humans or apes. Depends on the skull.


How did you come to the conclusion they were neanderthals?


Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on Jan. 31, 2013 at 12:06 PM


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

I didn't. Scientists have. I suppose I should ask, how do you come to the conclusion that scientists are wrong?

Quoting Anonymous:


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

And how did you come to this conclusion?

Quoting Anonymous:


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

So you think all the Neanderthal skeletons are what? Just humans?

Quoting Anonymous:


Quoting SalemWitchChild:

No such thing as what?

Quoting Anonymous:

No such thing.


As a neanderthal.


Humans or apes. Depends on the skull.


How did you come to the conclusion they were neanderthals?


Other scientists have concluded that they're NOT neanderthals.

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