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Why don;'t they make FS like WIC?

Posted by Anonymous   + Show Post

Give you a check and state what you can and can't buy on it.  

WIC: Bread, milk, eggs, beans, cereal, juice, tuna!!

FS: Card with $$ on it!?


Posted by Anonymous on Jan. 31, 2013 at 2:09 PM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 80 on Feb. 1, 2013 at 9:17 PM
Wic is a grant funded program food stamps aren't.
ColleenF30
by Lube Girl on Feb. 1, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Thank you so much. This is my first after my stillborn almost four years ago, and it has attached low in the front beside my c-section scar. Not planned, very much a surprise.


Quoting abbysmom818:

I hope everything goes good for you. 

Quoting ColleenF30:

I know at least a few places still do. Ohio did last I knew. I have no clue what north Carolina does yet. I know I qualify, but I am waiting to see if I have a viable pregnancy before I apply. (I know I still qualify even six months after a miscarriage, but I don't feel right doing it unless I have a viable for some reason). Currently 5 weeks 4 days. I should know by Wednesday.


Quoting abbysmom818:

I didn't know they even did checks anymore. In Texas, they definitely don't. WIC cards are used, so it won't take off the things that aren't covered. 

Quoting ColleenF30:

It would probably cost more in the long run, that and some cashiers lie about what people have bought. I have seen people get items they weren't supposed to on WIC knowing which cashier didn't care and would mark it down the right way.







Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Feb. 1, 2013 at 9:21 PM
If the government wants to give every single person in Alec's a card with like $300 or $400 for FREE and they want to dictate what you can buy with that free monthly card, then hell yes I will buy what they say I can buy, if it is healthy. Bread, eggs, milk, cheese, beans, frit and veggies.
But if you are working for your own money and wasn't too spend your own money on eating out, clubbing, zooing it up, biting has, going on vacation, making your hard earned money and spending it, then no the government can not dictate that.

Quoting Anonymous:

Well if you are looking at it that way shouldn't everyone in America be forced to live that way?  Not just people on fs?  Give every household a card to scan and you can only buy so much of everything a month.  Sound good? 



Quoting illinoismommy83:

Her kids would be just fine living on fresh produce and some protein and dairy. No one needs pancakes. Think how healthy kids would be if their "go to" snack was fruits and veggies in the fridge instead of chips in the pantry.

Quoting Anonymous:

I understand what you are saying but what about the people who do not know how to cook.  I know a girl who had absolutely no cooking skills at all.  I swear she could burn water.  No her kids did not eat the best but I have seen kids eat much worse.  She always had fresh fruits and veggies in the house but could not make a pancake to save her own life so she always had frozen pancakes in the house.  She was not on food stamps, but this is the first thing that came to my mind. 



Quoting illinoismommy83:

I wish food stamps was changed to a program where you had free reign in what you bought, but you could only buy certain kinds of foods. All fresh meats, veggies, fruits, and other "whole" foods with freedom, and then you could buy ingredients in their least processed form (like butter, sugar, flour). Basically just cutting out packaged foods. No frozen pizzas, but you could make your own pizza. No chips, but you could make your own chips, etc. No french fries, but you could buy potatoes and oil... 

The reason for this, is you get people on food stamps who get $600 a month and get used to buying without thinking and go overboard on pre-packaged crap, then they get on their feet and have to provide their own food and are unable to cook basic meals because their food always came frozen and pre-made.

There are 0 allergy issues when users have full range of whole foods. Can't eat gluten? Don't buy gluten. You don't NEED gluten-free alternatives that are pre-packaged. Oranges are naturally gluten free.








AprilDJC
by on Feb. 1, 2013 at 9:23 PM
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Ok, question. So if someone on fs fills their cart with frozen veggies, cheap fruits, meats, beans, rice, milk, and eggs like you all want and then buys things to MAKE their kids snacks like chocolate, marshmallows, sugars, etc to make cookies, cakes, things like that instead of buyimg it premade, thats acceptible? Lol. Yes, snacks made at home are "healthier" but still not HEALTHY. Do you want to regulate that? Where does it stop?
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Hoevegirl1986
by Bronze Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 9:24 PM
I have a wic card, use it like a debt card! I hear so many say they get stamps.
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Feb. 1, 2013 at 9:28 PM
Spitefulness is a sorry attribute. One i hope you do not pass down to your poor kids.

Quoting Lovemyfamilyof8:

Ummm... some get a ton... so they will say they have to get 600.00 of 10 items??? LMMFAO, grow up! Hey why don;t you suck it up and tell thm how to live off nothing but bread, eggs, cheese, milk, fruit, and juce and creal. NO MEAT, Nothing to cook with ( flour, sugar, seasoning, etc) I hate people like you! I DO NOT get FS, but for the second time today I would Buy soda, candy and chips on FS and then pay cash for booze and cigs JUST TO PISS YOU SORRY ASS OFF! I wish upon you to crash and need FS and only be able to buy 8 specific items.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 69 on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:10 PM
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Who the hell said I couldn't provide for my child? When I got pregnant my SO had a better paying Fucking Job you damn judgemental mother fucking bitch!!!

Quoting talia-mom:

Why did it never occur to you to be able to care for your child before you brought the child into this world?


Quoting Anonymous:

Oh we do, but our rent is $500 roughly a month. My SO makes $200 or less a week. Not mention the needs for our DS. I'm a SAHM for now. I want to work, but things here in Hawaii suck. Yet I know there are people who play the system. They don't report anything like someone living with them that's not supposed to be. That person get FS and FA. She get $1,000+ in FS and $800 in FS and that doesn't last her either. Difference is she doesn't work at all and neither does her SO who's not supposed to be living with them. She got reported, but they couldn't prove anything.

Quoting Anonymous:

Its a supplement, its not supposed to be enough to last the whole month. The government expects you to at least attempt to provide for yourself.


Quoting Anonymous:

Exacty why does everyone want to say what people on FS can or can't buy? I have WIC and we use those checks to help out, but it's limited. I also have FS, but it doesn't last that long either. I limit my spending to make sure I have enough to last the month. $400 isn't much. We buy a bag of chips here and there. My son doesn't eat candy. We don't drink sodas. Here where I live not many stores have the WIC program. Hawaii doesn't have certain stores that the mainland has. It sucks to try and budget roughly $100 a week for food.






talia-mom
by Gold Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:15 PM


Uh, no.  I could pay for stuff.

The fact that stupid people think she was in charge is stupid beyond areality

Quoting Anonymous:

Who the hell said I couldn't provide for my child? When I got pregnant my SO had a better paying Fucking Job you damn judgemental mother fucking bitch!!!

Quoting talia-mom:

Why did it never occur to you to be able to care for your child before you brought the child into this world?


Quoting Anonymous:

Oh we do, but our rent is $500 roughly a month. My SO makes $200 or less a week. Not mention the needs for our DS. I'm a SAHM for now. I want to work, but things here in Hawaii suck. Yet I know there are people who play the system. They don't report anything like someone living with them that's not supposed to be. That person get FS and FA. She get $1,000+ in FS and $800 in FS and that doesn't last her either. Difference is she doesn't work at all and neither does her SO who's not supposed to be living with them. She got reported, but they couldn't prove anything.

Quoting Anonymous:

Its a supplement, its not supposed to be enough to last the whole month. The government expects you to at least attempt to provide for yourself.


Quoting Anonymous:

Exacty why does everyone want to say what people on FS can or can't buy? I have WIC and we use those checks to help out, but it's limited. I also have FS, but it doesn't last that long either. I limit my spending to make sure I have enough to last the month. $400 isn't much. We buy a bag of chips here and there. My son doesn't eat candy. We don't drink sodas. Here where I live not many stores have the WIC program. Hawaii doesn't have certain stores that the mainland has. It sucks to try and budget roughly $100 a week for food.








PROGENITOR
by on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:17 PM

You can make quiet a bit of money and still get WIC. It is more strict with FSs.

AdellesMom
by on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:48 PM
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I'm sorry your brain can't understand the fact that the government would be telling people what they can and cannot do in their home if that were to happen. I understand what you're saying 100%, I obviously disagree with you. Disagreement isn't the same as being too inept to understand something simple.

You're comparing apples to oranges. You're comparing someone that's on FS to get back on their feet to your random craving for crab, and wanting the government to pay for it because you think it's too expensive. There's no comparison.

To be frank, it's none of your business what people do and do not feed their kids. You don't even pay taxes yourself.


Quoting talia-mom:

The government is telling them what they will provide.   I am sorry your brain can't grasp that.

No one prevents them from buying what they want.  Other than their bank account I guess.

I love crab meat.   Should the government provide that for me if I decide it is too expensive one week?

They are never forbidden from bringing things into their home.    They would just have to pay for it if the program changes.    That isn't a bad thing or a hateful thing.   It makes sure these kids get nutrition.




Quoting AdellesMom:

Have your thought processes always been so unilateral? Think outside of the box for once.





If someone's on FS, and the government tells them what they can and cannot buy, then the government is telling them what they can and cannot bring into their home. Thus controlling what happens in that home. It's not rocket science, and it's sad that you're making it to be something it isn't.





It wouldn't make everything easier. Have you actually been stuck in line behind someone that has a WIC check? No, it doesn't make sense in reality. In theory, it may sound good. However, what works in theory won't always work in reality.





Of course I don't think that the government should control what people buy with FS. It's food for crying out loud. Just be thankful that you aren't on FS, instead of looking down your nose at people that are.






Quoting talia-mom:


No, they aren't controlling what happens in their home.   These people are not forbidden from buying stuff with their own money since this is just a supplement to help provide food.

It makes complete sense.  You just think the government shouldn't control what they buy with the service the government provides.


That is why just need FS stores.   It would make everything easier.




Quoting AdellesMom:

You make no sense. If the government decides to control what people can and cannot buy with FS, they will have control over what happens in someone's home. You don't know what my cousin can and cannot eat. Don't act as if you do, you're very off base.







Quoting talia-mom:

No one is controlling what they can or cannot do in their homes.   They would be controlling what they are willing to provide.   It is a big, big difference.  As for your cousin, then a doctor's note could help provide a few extra things that are still staples.  He doesn't need potato chips or candy bars.    He needs produce and protein and fiber.






Quoting AdellesMom:

No, they wouldn't have. My cousin was allergic to almost all foods in the major food groups. I mean, he has a severe CHICKEN allergy! The boy can't eat CHICKEN, let alone dairy products (he's allergic to milk) and he's also allergic to seafood and he can't have wheat. My cousin is on many, many dietary supplements e cause of his very severe food allergies. Sorry you can't understand this.









There's something very wrong with it. It's none of your business what people do in their homes. None! Like I said in a previous reply that you've seemed to ignore, what do you do all day? Sit on your ass? Are you working? Are you in school? Do YOU even pay taxes?! If not, then zip it.










Quoting talia-mom:

Staples, which cover food allergies, has been most of the focus of this because it is more like WIC than just allowing anything and everything not hot from the deli.

Her needs would be met by making FS more like WIC.   Sorry you can't wrap your mind around the concept there is nothing wrong with limiting what is available on food stamps.








Quoting AdellesMom:

Yes, really. That person's comment was about people with food allergies, and other dietary needs. NOT junk food. If that person had made a comment about junk food, then you'd have a point. However, that person took a whole different angle that doesn't even relate to junk food.











Nice try at trying to twist this around, and put the reading comprehension fail on me. Too bad anyone with half of a brain can see that your twist doesn't work. Also, all staple foods will not feed all kids regardless of dietary restrictions. I have a cousin who was once allergic to almost everything under the sun, and his allergies were very severe. Sadly, many so called staple foods would kill him. So, he had to eat some junk foods.












Quoting talia-mom:

Not really.  A great deal of this discussion has been on making it staples and not things like  soda and cakes.

Staple foods would feed children regardless of the dietary needs of them or the parents.   If a parent chooses to feed junk food, then they should provide it.

Good effort in not understanding what is being discussed throughout the thread.








Quoting AdellesMom:

Reading comprehension fail!













She's not talking about junk food.














Quoting talia-mom:

They would not have a lot of malnourished or starving children if they eliminated be able to get junk food.









Quoting Anonymous:

Because not everyone has the same dietary needs or religious beliefs. Certain religions can't eat certain foods. There are so many food allergies out there its hard to dictate what u can and can't get in a home. And there are metabolic disorders which cause u to have entirely different diets from your family. I know when I got wisc I tried to explain my metabolic disorder and that I couldn't have anything on the vouchers they told me just give it to someone else to eat that thy can't make special food checks for me. Because its not fair to the rest of the country if I get things for my diet. It was so dumb. If food stamps did that they would have a lot of malnourished or starving children or parents selling foodstamps or doing more illegal things to try and feed their child or themselves with dietary ristrictions.








































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