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How on earth do you ERF past age 1? ***UPDATE AFTER TRYING IT***

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I'm asking because it seriously doesnt make any sense to me. We have 2 different styles of carseats for both girls. and even my youngest hasnt been able to RF since she was 1. Is is our car seats? We just go off of the state requirement for weight and age. My oldest is 3 and 40 inches tall. Youngest is 15 months and 30 inches tall.

We have these carseats for each girl:

They go up to 65 pounds, which in our state is over the requirements for a child restraint being needed. they both say they can rear face to 40 pounds, but both my girls forward faced at a year because their legs were so smooshed.

Is there special car seats for ERF or is just whatever your child can fit safely in until their legs are too long?

***So I tried rearranging somethings in the car to rear face both girls and the 3 year was a little uncomfortable and whined for a little bit. But then she said she was ok after all. Our youngest feel asleep on a 4 minute drive from Walmart to our home. I'm a fan now! I was just always told it was a bad idea so I never gave it much thought!****

 

by on Jan. 31, 2013 at 11:44 PM
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thetrollcat
by Meow on Feb. 1, 2013 at 8:20 PM
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bullshit, the Breastfeeders say the same damn thing about extending breastfeeding past two.

Its being anal.

Quoting sfkdny:

 it has nothing to do with being anal, it has to do with doing what has been proven safer for the kids.  I think it is a ridiculous thing to say that you do not ERF cause people that do are anal...so random!!


Quoting thetrollcat:

I dont Im not that anal




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Anonymous
by Anonymous 44 on Feb. 1, 2013 at 8:36 PM


Quoting Anonymous:

 yeah god forbid, you get shoe prints on your car.  I cannot believe how selfish some of you bitches are.  unreal

Quoting Anonymous:

Sorry but my kidsfeet arent going to be all over my seats. 



When you have to lose 1000.00 when it comes time to trade in the vehicle  then you will wish you didnt let the kids put their feet all over the seats.  So glad I dont live in a whatif world and I dont live in the OMg my child will break their neck IF we are in an accident.  Because chances are they wont.  As long as they are buckled in their carseat whether FF or RF they will be just fine. 

Anonymous
by Anonymous 11 on Feb. 1, 2013 at 8:52 PM

You just keep telling yourself that...wrap your kids in bubble wrap.  My children are healthy.  They are safe.  You raise your children in a bubble, and I will raise mine in the real world.

Quoting SommelierMom:



Quoting Anonymous:

Nice try insulting me.  She did great with neck control at 9 months old.  She was even walking at that age.  My children are in excellent health, make the high honor rolls at school, and are independent.  I have done an excellent job with them.  I do not helicopter, hover, wrap them in bubble wrap, use leashes.  They use their imagination to play.  They will be ready to go out into the world and take chances.  They are not afraid to try new things.  They never worry if they will get "hurt".  They are children-not china.

Quoting SommelierMom:



Quoting Anonymous:

That's just it-ADVICE!  If someone came out tomorrow and advised you that going to the park was dangerous and not to do it until the child is 10 years old, does not mean you should do it.  Every child is different.  Mine was big enough and tall enough to turn around at 9 months old.  So I did.  I had that seat so well secured that in order to take it out, I had to actually kneel in it to unbuckle it.  There was NO wiggle room.  Majority of the accidents that happen are to incorrectly installed seats, and people not buckling in the baby right.  My kids were safe.  

Also, don't you think that in some cases, ERF can cause a false sense of security?  Which can cause a lapse of judgement.  Parents can "slip" when putting baby in car seat.  Straps not tight enough (Like that video that is on this post).

Quoting SommelierMom:



Quoting Anonymous:

Really?  Just 2 days ago, I asked a State Police Officer about booster seats.  I was told that when they do random road block checks, if they see a child not properly buckled in, they will correct it.  And give you a ticket.  

He also told me that my 4'11 daughter is tall enough and is heavy enough to sit in the front seat.  Which she has been.

Quoting SommelierMom:



Quoting Anonymous:

I also went to a car-seat safety check when she was 14 months old.  Officer said it was installed correctly.  Never said anything about her being ff.

Quoting SommelierMom:



Quoting Anonymous:

I turned my oldest around at 9 months.  Why?  Because she was born weighing 9 lbs 2 1/2 ounces and was 22 inches long.  She was tall.  Wearing 2t clothing at 9 months old.  My youngest was turned around on her 1st birthday.


My daughter was bigger than that at birth.  She's still ERF at almost 22 months (36").  No excuse.



It's not a law, in most places, to ERF til 2.  The police aren't there to give parenting advice, they're there to tell you if your seat is properly installed.


Exactly.  He told you the law, not parenting advice.



A 9 month old is never safe FF.  They don't have the neck muscles and head control. Nice job doing the parenting bare minimum.




Your 9 month old's neck would've snapped like a twig if you were in a medium+ car accident.  

Walking is completely irrelevant, as is everything you wrote after that.  BTW, a 9 month old's spinal cord IS like china.

Again, fail.  


Anonymous
by Anonymous 11 on Feb. 1, 2013 at 8:54 PM

No  I had both of them in a high back booster.  Then they went to backless booster seats.  One is out of it totally, the other has about 6 months left before she is able to be out of it.

Quoting Ms.Pink.:

You have your 14 mth in a booster?

Quoting Anonymous:

But my child is.  I go to car seat safety checkpoints EVERY year.

Quoting Ms.Pink.:

I don't see your argument. Most children now days aren't in boosters correctly therefore breaking the law. A 14 mth old ffjng who weighs at least 20lbs is not breaking it.



Quoting Anonymous:

Really?  Just 2 days ago, I asked a State Police Officer about booster seats.  I was told that when they do random road block checks, if they see a child not properly buckled in, they will correct it.  And give you a ticket.  

He also told me that my 4'11 daughter is tall enough and is heavy enough to sit in the front seat.  Which she has been.

Quoting SommelierMom:





Quoting Anonymous:

I also went to a car-seat safety check when she was 14 months old.  Officer said it was installed correctly.  Never said anything about her being ff.

Quoting SommelierMom:





Quoting Anonymous:

I turned my oldest around at 9 months.  Why?  Because she was born weighing 9 lbs 2 1/2 ounces and was 22 inches long.  She was tall.  Wearing 2t clothing at 9 months old.  My youngest was turned around on her 1st birthday.




My daughter was bigger than that at birth.  She's still ERF at almost 22 months (36").  No excuse.





It's not a law, in most places, to ERF til 2.  The police aren't there to give parenting advice, they're there to tell you if your seat is properly installed.




Anonymous
by Anonymous 11 on Feb. 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM

I am saying that she was too big to be rear facing.  

Quoting Ms.Pink.:

Was her neck control tested at 9 mths in a motor vehicle collision? Are you trying to say your personal child defied every other infant alive and somehow had proper neck fusion that young?

Quoting Anonymous:

Nice try insulting me.  She did great with neck control at 9 months old.  She was even walking at that age.  My children are in excellent health, make the high honor rolls at school, and are independent.  I have done an excellent job with them.  I do not helicopter, hover, wrap them in bubble wrap, use leashes.  They use their imagination to play.  They will be ready to go out into the world and take chances.  They are not afraid to try new things.  They never worry if they will get "hurt".  They are children-not china.

Quoting SommelierMom:




Quoting Anonymous:

That's just it-ADVICE!  If someone came out tomorrow and advised you that going to the park was dangerous and not to do it until the child is 10 years old, does not mean you should do it.  Every child is different.  Mine was big enough and tall enough to turn around at 9 months old.  So I did.  I had that seat so well secured that in order to take it out, I had to actually kneel in it to unbuckle it.  There was NO wiggle room.  Majority of the accidents that happen are to incorrectly installed seats, and people not buckling in the baby right.  My kids were safe.  

Also, don't you think that in some cases, ERF can cause a false sense of security?  Which can cause a lapse of judgement.  Parents can "slip" when putting baby in car seat.  Straps not tight enough (Like that video that is on this post).

Quoting SommelierMom:




Quoting Anonymous:

Really?  Just 2 days ago, I asked a State Police Officer about booster seats.  I was told that when they do random road block checks, if they see a child not properly buckled in, they will correct it.  And give you a ticket.  

He also told me that my 4'11 daughter is tall enough and is heavy enough to sit in the front seat.  Which she has been.

Quoting SommelierMom:




Quoting Anonymous:

I also went to a car-seat safety check when she was 14 months old.  Officer said it was installed correctly.  Never said anything about her being ff.

Quoting SommelierMom:




Quoting Anonymous:

I turned my oldest around at 9 months.  Why?  Because she was born weighing 9 lbs 2 1/2 ounces and was 22 inches long.  She was tall.  Wearing 2t clothing at 9 months old.  My youngest was turned around on her 1st birthday.



My daughter was bigger than that at birth.  She's still ERF at almost 22 months (36").  No excuse.




It's not a law, in most places, to ERF til 2.  The police aren't there to give parenting advice, they're there to tell you if your seat is properly installed.


Exactly.  He told you the law, not parenting advice.




A 9 month old is never safe FF.  They don't have the neck muscles and head control. Nice job doing the parenting bare minimum.





Ms.Pink.
by on Feb. 1, 2013 at 9:02 PM
Not at 9 mths old. Go research the anatomy, structure and development of an infant neck/spinal cord. Then come back and try to defend that ignorance.

Quoting Anonymous:

I am saying that she was too big to be rear facing.  

Quoting Ms.Pink.:

Was her neck control tested at 9 mths in a motor vehicle collision? Are you trying to say your personal child defied every other infant alive and somehow had proper neck fusion that young?



Quoting Anonymous:

Nice try insulting me.  She did great with neck control at 9 months old.  She was even walking at that age.  My children are in excellent health, make the high honor rolls at school, and are independent.  I have done an excellent job with them.  I do not helicopter, hover, wrap them in bubble wrap, use leashes.  They use their imagination to play.  They will be ready to go out into the world and take chances.  They are not afraid to try new things.  They never worry if they will get "hurt".  They are children-not china.

Quoting SommelierMom:





Quoting Anonymous:

That's just it-ADVICE!  If someone came out tomorrow and advised you that going to the park was dangerous and not to do it until the child is 10 years old, does not mean you should do it.  Every child is different.  Mine was big enough and tall enough to turn around at 9 months old.  So I did.  I had that seat so well secured that in order to take it out, I had to actually kneel in it to unbuckle it.  There was NO wiggle room.  Majority of the accidents that happen are to incorrectly installed seats, and people not buckling in the baby right.  My kids were safe.  

Also, don't you think that in some cases, ERF can cause a false sense of security?  Which can cause a lapse of judgement.  Parents can "slip" when putting baby in car seat.  Straps not tight enough (Like that video that is on this post).

Quoting SommelierMom:





Quoting Anonymous:

Really?  Just 2 days ago, I asked a State Police Officer about booster seats.  I was told that when they do random road block checks, if they see a child not properly buckled in, they will correct it.  And give you a ticket.  

He also told me that my 4'11 daughter is tall enough and is heavy enough to sit in the front seat.  Which she has been.

Quoting SommelierMom:





Quoting Anonymous:

I also went to a car-seat safety check when she was 14 months old.  Officer said it was installed correctly.  Never said anything about her being ff.

Quoting SommelierMom:





Quoting Anonymous:

I turned my oldest around at 9 months.  Why?  Because she was born weighing 9 lbs 2 1/2 ounces and was 22 inches long.  She was tall.  Wearing 2t clothing at 9 months old.  My youngest was turned around on her 1st birthday.




My daughter was bigger than that at birth.  She's still ERF at almost 22 months (36").  No excuse.





It's not a law, in most places, to ERF til 2.  The police aren't there to give parenting advice, they're there to tell you if your seat is properly installed.


Exactly.  He told you the law, not parenting advice.





A 9 month old is never safe FF.  They don't have the neck muscles and head control. Nice job doing the parenting bare minimum.






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MissMysteriouss
by on Feb. 1, 2013 at 9:05 PM
I have seat protectors made for car seats under every car seat. No worries and no footprints. Though 99% of the time I carry DD to the car anyways.


Quoting Anonymous:


Quoting Anonymous:

 yeah god forbid, you get shoe prints on your car.  I cannot believe how selfish some of you bitches are.  unreal


Quoting Anonymous:


Sorry but my kidsfeet arent going to be all over my seats. 





When you have to lose 1000.00 when it comes time to trade in the vehicle  then you will wish you didnt let the kids put their feet all over the seats.  So glad I dont live in a whatif world and I dont live in the OMg my child will break their neck IF we are in an accident.  Because chances are they wont.  As long as they are buckled in their carseat whether FF or RF they will be just fine. 


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Ms.Pink.
by on Feb. 1, 2013 at 9:06 PM
If you had a 14 mth old in a hbb and a carseat check along with pd tells you that's correct usage you live in a town without complete fucking morons. No state allows a 14 mth old in a HBB and NO HBB supports a 14 mth old.

Quoting Anonymous:

No  I had both of them in a high back booster.  Then they went to backless booster seats.  One is out of it totally, the other has about 6 months left before she is able to be out of it.

Quoting Ms.Pink.:

You have your 14 mth in a booster?



Quoting Anonymous:

But my child is.  I go to car seat safety checkpoints EVERY year.

Quoting Ms.Pink.:

I don't see your argument. Most children now days aren't in boosters correctly therefore breaking the law. A 14 mth old ffjng who weighs at least 20lbs is not breaking it.





Quoting Anonymous:

Really?  Just 2 days ago, I asked a State Police Officer about booster seats.  I was told that when they do random road block checks, if they see a child not properly buckled in, they will correct it.  And give you a ticket.  

He also told me that my 4'11 daughter is tall enough and is heavy enough to sit in the front seat.  Which she has been.

Quoting SommelierMom:






Quoting Anonymous:

I also went to a car-seat safety check when she was 14 months old.  Officer said it was installed correctly.  Never said anything about her being ff.

Quoting SommelierMom:






Quoting Anonymous:

I turned my oldest around at 9 months.  Why?  Because she was born weighing 9 lbs 2 1/2 ounces and was 22 inches long.  She was tall.  Wearing 2t clothing at 9 months old.  My youngest was turned around on her 1st birthday.





My daughter was bigger than that at birth.  She's still ERF at almost 22 months (36").  No excuse.






It's not a law, in most places, to ERF til 2.  The police aren't there to give parenting advice, they're there to tell you if your seat is properly installed.




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leakymommy
by on Feb. 1, 2013 at 9:10 PM

YAY!!! Good work mama!!!!

SommelierMom
by Emerald Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 9:11 PM



Quoting Anonymous:

You just keep telling yourself that...wrap your kids in bubble wrap.  My children are healthy.  They are safe.  You raise your children in a bubble, and I will raise mine in the real world.

Quoting SommelierMom:



Quoting Anonymous:

Nice try insulting me.  She did great with neck control at 9 months old.  She was even walking at that age.  My children are in excellent health, make the high honor rolls at school, and are independent.  I have done an excellent job with them.  I do not helicopter, hover, wrap them in bubble wrap, use leashes.  They use their imagination to play.  They will be ready to go out into the world and take chances.  They are not afraid to try new things.  They never worry if they will get "hurt".  They are children-not china.

Quoting SommelierMom:



Quoting Anonymous:

That's just it-ADVICE!  If someone came out tomorrow and advised you that going to the park was dangerous and not to do it until the child is 10 years old, does not mean you should do it.  Every child is different.  Mine was big enough and tall enough to turn around at 9 months old.  So I did.  I had that seat so well secured that in order to take it out, I had to actually kneel in it to unbuckle it.  There was NO wiggle room.  Majority of the accidents that happen are to incorrectly installed seats, and people not buckling in the baby right.  My kids were safe.  

Also, don't you think that in some cases, ERF can cause a false sense of security?  Which can cause a lapse of judgement.  Parents can "slip" when putting baby in car seat.  Straps not tight enough (Like that video that is on this post).

Quoting SommelierMom:



Quoting Anonymous:

Really?  Just 2 days ago, I asked a State Police Officer about booster seats.  I was told that when they do random road block checks, if they see a child not properly buckled in, they will correct it.  And give you a ticket.  

He also told me that my 4'11 daughter is tall enough and is heavy enough to sit in the front seat.  Which she has been.

Quoting SommelierMom:



Quoting Anonymous:

I also went to a car-seat safety check when she was 14 months old.  Officer said it was installed correctly.  Never said anything about her being ff.

Quoting SommelierMom:



Quoting Anonymous:

I turned my oldest around at 9 months.  Why?  Because she was born weighing 9 lbs 2 1/2 ounces and was 22 inches long.  She was tall.  Wearing 2t clothing at 9 months old.  My youngest was turned around on her 1st birthday.


My daughter was bigger than that at birth.  She's still ERF at almost 22 months (36").  No excuse.



It's not a law, in most places, to ERF til 2.  The police aren't there to give parenting advice, they're there to tell you if your seat is properly installed.


Exactly.  He told you the law, not parenting advice.



A 9 month old is never safe FF.  They don't have the neck muscles and head control. Nice job doing the parenting bare minimum.




Your 9 month old's neck would've snapped like a twig if you were in a medium+ car accident.  

Walking is completely irrelevant, as is everything you wrote after that.  BTW, a 9 month old's spinal cord IS like china.

Again, fail.  


Yes, going with AAP recommendations is really raising my kid in a bubble.  


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