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"What a proud day for African American Women"*Small Edit*

Posted by Anonymous   + Show Post
The title is something Beyonce shared after the super bowl, along with saying thank you to Kelly, Michelle, Alicia & JHud.


My only problem with her statement is when I looked at the line up of performers I didn't sit and think "Wow, they're all black!" I at and thought "Wow all young women with talent that started making music in my early teen years! Cool!"


My beef is why did Beyonce turn in into a race thing? Why did she have to treat it like she overcame some huge obstacle, it's not like she fought to preform, she was invited and compensated very generously.


I am just mad because they say racism is very much alive and well in this country today, and I don't disagree, but I think the race we all think of when talking about someone being racist (white is what comes to my mind), isn't the race being racist and keeping it alive.





Just my opinion. Just curious what other people think about Beyonce making it a race thing.



**Edit**Just wanted to add, this is not a debate over the general characteristics of a certain race, it's is also not about Beyonce's Super Bowl performance, or her clothing (or lack of). I just wanted to see how people felt about her basically labeling this as a racial achievement, which I didn't really look at it as such until I read that quote, I just got irritated she brought race into something so racially neutral.**
Posted by Anonymous on Feb. 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Feb. 4, 2013 at 12:13 PM
Exactly. Crack open 10th grade history book. Irish were being tortured and enslaved long before America was even discovered!!

Quoting Anonymous:

 Seriously what? You didn't pay attention in history class? lol


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Seriously? 


 


Quoting Anonymous:


So true lol


Quoting Anonymous:

Well... It kinda is because the Irish and Native Americans went through way more hardships, slavery and suffering for twice as long as African Americans did. Lol


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It's fine, every time I do something impressive I announce that it's a proud day for native american Irish people lol


 


 


 


 

Anonymous
by Anonymous 11 on Feb. 4, 2013 at 12:14 PM

 Close enough that my lowest grade ever was 98 in all of my honors classes.  Your statement is inaccurate.


Quoting Anonymous:

 Seriously what? You didn't pay attention in history class? lol

Quoting Anonymous:

Seriously? 

 

Quoting Anonymous:

So true lol

Quoting Anonymous:

Well... It kinda is because the Irish and Native Americans went through way more hardships, slavery and suffering for twice as long as African Americans did. Lol

Quoting Anonymous:

It's fine, every time I do something impressive I announce that it's a proud day for native american Irish people lol

 

 

 

 


 

Anonymous
by Anonymous 10 on Feb. 4, 2013 at 12:14 PM
Huh? You can look at her and know she is mixed. If she was walking on the street I wouldn't be like "there goes that black girl". Wtf?

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 It's hilarious to me how it is that when someone black is famous everyone all of a sudden feels the need to talk about whatever they may be "mixed with", when if that same person wasn't famous and on the street no one would see them as anything but black.




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I think it's strange that she identifies as black. Why isn't it a proud day for everything else she is mixed with? It's just weird.



 

Anonymous
by Anonymous 11 on Feb. 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM

 Both of her parents are black.


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Huh? You can look at her and know she is mixed. If she was walking on the street I wouldn't be like "there goes that black girl". Wtf?

Quoting Anonymous:

 It's hilarious to me how it is that when someone black is famous everyone all of a sudden feels the need to talk about whatever they may be "mixed with", when if that same person wasn't famous and on the street no one would see them as anything but black.


 


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I think it's strange that she identifies as black. Why isn't it a proud day for everything else she is mixed with? It's just weird.

 


 


 

Pooobaihr
by Platinum Member on Feb. 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM

EXACTLY!

Quoting Anonymous:

I don't see it as turning it into a race thing.  That being said, however, I don't believe that any other Superbowl had all African-American women as the main performers.  It is a step forward, just as it is a step forward that you and most others didn't even think about their race.  A similar step forward is that there wasn't a lot of discussion of the fact that the quarterback for San Francisco is black -- a long way from where things were when Doug Williams was the quarterback 25 years ago.  That is definite progress.

Also, I totally disagree with your position on whether whites are keeping racism alive in this country.  The following is an excerpt from an article published in October about an AP study on racial attitudes in America:

Racial prejudice has increased slightly since 2008 whether those feelings were measured using questions that explicitly asked respondents about racist attitudes, or through an experimental test that measured implicit views toward race without asking questions about that topic directly.

In all, 51% of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48% in a similar 2008 survey. When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56%, up from 49% during the last presidential election. In both tests, the share of Americans expressing pro-black attitudes fell.

"As much as we'd hope the impact of race would decline over time ... it appears the impact of anti-black sentiment on voting is about the same as it was four years ago," said Jon Krosnick, a Stanford University professor who worked with AP to develop the survey.

Most Americans expressed anti-Hispanic sentiments, too. In an AP survey done in 2011, 52% of non-Hispanic whites expressed anti-Hispanic attitudes. That figure rose to 57% in the implicit test. The survey on Hispanics had no past data for comparison.

The AP surveys were conducted with researchers from Stanford University, the University of Michigan and NORC at the University of Chicago.




Anonymous
by Anonymous 15 on Feb. 4, 2013 at 12:16 PM
She identifies as black. So it's not an issue. Just like the mixed british singer identifies as white.
Also not every light skinned person is mixed.

Quoting Anonymous:

Huh? You can look at her and know she is mixed. If she was walking on the street I wouldn't be like "there goes that black girl". Wtf?



Quoting Anonymous:

 It's hilarious to me how it is that when someone black is famous everyone all of a sudden feels the need to talk about whatever they may be "mixed with", when if that same person wasn't famous and on the street no one would see them as anything but black.






Quoting Anonymous:

I think it's strange that she identifies as black. Why isn't it a proud day for everything else she is mixed with? It's just weird.





 

Pooobaihr
by Platinum Member on Feb. 4, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Your history class must have skipped a few chapters. XDD

Quoting Anonymous:

Exactly. Crack open 10th grade history book. Irish were being tortured and enslaved long before America was even discovered!!

Quoting Anonymous:

 Seriously what? You didn't pay attention in history class? lol


Quoting Anonymous:


Seriously? 




Quoting Anonymous:


So true lol


Quoting Anonymous:

Well... It kinda is because the Irish and Native Americans went through way more hardships, slavery and suffering for twice as long as African Americans did. Lol


Quoting Anonymous:


It's fine, every time I do something impressive I announce that it's a proud day for native american Irish people lol


 






 



Diamepphyre
by Ruby Member on Feb. 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM
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 Racism is perpetuated by all races.  That's why it will never go away.  You can't tell white people that it's wrong and not to do it while allowing other races to continue the practice.  If white people aren't supposed to say n*gger, sp*c, gook, etc., then the other races shouldn't be able to refer to whites as crackers, round eyes, etc.  If any given race wants to be seen as equal regardless of the color of their skin, then they have to accept that all other races are also equal regardless of the color of their skin.  Unless and until that happens, racism is never going to go away.

OneToughMami
by Ruby Member on Feb. 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM

For one, it is black history month. This is the first time I have seen black performers open the Super Bowl AND perform the half time show.

brebugmom91
by on Feb. 4, 2013 at 12:19 PM
I have to agree with you.
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