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22 year old 15 year old

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My brother is 22 years old having sex with a 15 year old hes a drug addict been in jail multiple times for theft. Should I call the cops. I think this girl deserves better
Posted by Anonymous on Feb. 9, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Replies (161-170):
momsince04
by on Feb. 12, 2013 at 12:18 PM
She's 15 and knows what she is doing. Yes op brothe is sick and irresponsible for sleeping w a 15 yr old, but she probably is as much as a pos as he is. Either way, she knows what she is doing. It's up to her parents do something with their slutty out of control 15 yr old.


Quoting areid1023:

good lord. so i guess 10 is your cutoff then? barf. 11, 12, 13, 14? all ok? 

luckily most states disagree with you.

i am yet to meet a 15 year old that knows what they're doing. they certainly do NOT know what they're doing when it comes to adult relationships.

and 'sleeping around'? as far as we know she is only sleeping (aka being raped by) with the OP's 22 year old brother. your bias is showing. if it wasnt for the adult having sex with her who knows if she'd be having sex at all. the imbalance of power makes it impossible to tell, hence, and once again, consent laws.





Quoting momsince04:

How can you say a 15 yr old is not able to consent to sex?? She is not an 8 yr old or 10 yr old. She is 15 and knows damn well what she is doing. An if someone is to stop her, then it should be left to the parents. She knows what she is doing, and she's ok with sleeping around with older men.





Quoting areid1023:

this isnt about gender. i dont blame 'the guy' i blame the adult. if the genders were reversed or if it was a same sex interaction it would be just as wrong. 

yeah, so many PEOPLE are having sex young, that doesnt give adults a free pass to sleep with kids. fortunately, most adults dont have the temptation to do such a sick thing. 

in the vast majority of states (if not all, and regardless of archaic younger consent laws its still wrong) she does not have the capacity to consent. hence the reason for 'statutory' rape laws.which begs the question, how young would you like to see the legal 'cut off''? many children experience sexual abuse 'willingly' and then struggle with their perceived 'willingness'. the 15 year old child does not have the physiological or legal capacity to consent to sex with a 22 year old adult. he IS raping her because her 'willingness' means nothing. the absolute inherent imbalance of power in this type of situation implies coercion and rape. regardless of if the child says 'yes', says nothing, or 'started it'. 

this child is risking her life and someone should be there to prevent it. or at least do their darnedest by protecting her from predators like the OP's brother. 

not 'so be it'. how disturbing. 



Quoting momsince04:

If the girl is willingly sleeping with him, it's not a crime. So many girls are having sex young, and everyone always seems to blame the guy. If she wants it, then so be it. He is not raping her.








Quoting areid1023:



sick. this is not the first blind familial allegiance reply ive read but i still dont understand it. ruin HIS life? by reporting his activity in which hes most likely legally raping a child (the only reason why reporting it would 'ruin his life')? would your opinion extend to a 14 year old? 13? 10? how young?  PLUS hes an addict, as if raping young teens wasnt bad enough. 

how ruined will the girl's life be if she gets pregnant by this guy? how about if she gets an STD or HIV from this known drug addicted adult? the psychological effects, alone, of sleeping with adults when you're a child are detrimental. 

i have a sister. i would take a bullet for her. but i would never in a million years stand by while she victimized anyone, let alone a child. and while it would pain me to no end, i am adult enough to know it was her actions that got her in trouble, not me standing up for whats right.




Quoting Anonymous:

No. Dont call them. Idk exactly what the situation is but its your brother. You do know that it will ruin his life dont you. Try talking to him and the girl. Maybe you can talk some.sense into them. Does he have a history of dating underage girls? Just think about it.



















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Anonymous
by Anonymous on Feb. 12, 2013 at 12:26 PM
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Its called statutory rape.


Quoting Anonymous:

 did I miss something?  Where did she say he was raping her?  NOt that I think it's okay, but there's a pretty big step between having sex with a girl and raping her.


Quoting Kitschy:


They aren't dating, he's a rapist


 


areid1023
by Bronze Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM


i disagree with you on SO many levels and am somewhat confused by your stance. are you very young yourself? did you have a bad experience when you were young? did a loved one do something like the OP's brother?

why do you insist on labeling the 15 year old kid? slutty? for all we know this is her first sexual experience. for all we know its not, but if it isnt theres obviously something else at work there that only brings me concern for her, not disdain. you started out by accusing me of blaming the 'man' yet you seem so hell bent on blaming the young girl. 

and, bottom line, its not up to her parents. the OP already stated that in her state (as is true in most states) her brother is acting illegally. her parents cant sign off on it. and even if they dont give a shit, the state does, thank god. 

Quoting momsince04:

She's 15 and knows what she is doing. Yes op brothe is sick and irresponsible for sleeping w a 15 yr old, but she probably is as much as a pos as he is. Either way, she knows what she is doing. It's up to her parents do something with their slutty out of control 15 yr old.


Quoting areid1023:

good lord. so i guess 10 is your cutoff then? barf. 11, 12, 13, 14? all ok? 

luckily most states disagree with you.

i am yet to meet a 15 year old that knows what they're doing. they certainly do NOT know what they're doing when it comes to adult relationships.

and 'sleeping around'? as far as we know she is only sleeping (aka being raped by) with the OP's 22 year old brother. your bias is showing. if it wasnt for the adult having sex with her who knows if she'd be having sex at all. the imbalance of power makes it impossible to tell, hence, and once again, consent laws.





Quoting momsince04:

How can you say a 15 yr old is not able to consent to sex?? She is not an 8 yr old or 10 yr old. She is 15 and knows damn well what she is doing. An if someone is to stop her, then it should be left to the parents. She knows what she is doing, and she's ok with sleeping around with older men.





Quoting areid1023:

this isnt about gender. i dont blame 'the guy' i blame the adult. if the genders were reversed or if it was a same sex interaction it would be just as wrong. 

yeah, so many PEOPLE are having sex young, that doesnt give adults a free pass to sleep with kids. fortunately, most adults dont have the temptation to do such a sick thing. 

in the vast majority of states (if not all, and regardless of archaic younger consent laws its still wrong) she does not have the capacity to consent. hence the reason for 'statutory' rape laws.which begs the question, how young would you like to see the legal 'cut off''? many children experience sexual abuse 'willingly' and then struggle with their perceived 'willingness'. the 15 year old child does not have the physiological or legal capacity to consent to sex with a 22 year old adult. he IS raping her because her 'willingness' means nothing. the absolute inherent imbalance of power in this type of situation implies coercion and rape. regardless of if the child says 'yes', says nothing, or 'started it'. 

this child is risking her life and someone should be there to prevent it. or at least do their darnedest by protecting her from predators like the OP's brother. 

not 'so be it'. how disturbing. 



Quoting momsince04:

If the girl is willingly sleeping with him, it's not a crime. So many girls are having sex young, and everyone always seems to blame the guy. If she wants it, then so be it. He is not raping her.








Quoting areid1023:



sick. this is not the first blind familial allegiance reply ive read but i still dont understand it. ruin HIS life? by reporting his activity in which hes most likely legally raping a child (the only reason why reporting it would 'ruin his life')? would your opinion extend to a 14 year old? 13? 10? how young?  PLUS hes an addict, as if raping young teens wasnt bad enough. 

how ruined will the girl's life be if she gets pregnant by this guy? how about if she gets an STD or HIV from this known drug addicted adult? the psychological effects, alone, of sleeping with adults when you're a child are detrimental. 

i have a sister. i would take a bullet for her. but i would never in a million years stand by while she victimized anyone, let alone a child. and while it would pain me to no end, i am adult enough to know it was her actions that got her in trouble, not me standing up for whats right.




Quoting Anonymous:

No. Dont call them. Idk exactly what the situation is but its your brother. You do know that it will ruin his life dont you. Try talking to him and the girl. Maybe you can talk some.sense into them. Does he have a history of dating underage girls? Just think about it.





















 my little bug! 11-29-08

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Feb. 12, 2013 at 12:37 PM
So your saying that since she is 15 that it can't be rape. I was a tiny girl at 15 and intimidated by adults. So I guess my mom was right that when my step brother (who was 24) came into my room when I was 15 and had sex with me and I was too scared to say no. That I must have wanted it huh. Well thanks for putting it into your prospective for me. Damn at 15 whether you WANT TO OR NOT in a lot of situations the CHILD is too intimidated to say no.


Quoting momsince04:

She's 15 and knows what she is doing. Yes op brothe is sick and irresponsible for sleeping w a 15 yr old, but she probably is as much as a pos as he is. Either way, she knows what she is doing. It's up to her parents do something with their slutty out of control 15 yr old.




Quoting areid1023:

good lord. so i guess 10 is your cutoff then? barf. 11, 12, 13, 14? all ok? 

luckily most states disagree with you.

i am yet to meet a 15 year old that knows what they're doing. they certainly do NOT know what they're doing when it comes to adult relationships.

and 'sleeping around'? as far as we know she is only sleeping (aka being raped by) with the OP's 22 year old brother. your bias is showing. if it wasnt for the adult having sex with her who knows if she'd be having sex at all. the imbalance of power makes it impossible to tell, hence, and once again, consent laws.






Quoting momsince04:

How can you say a 15 yr old is not able to consent to sex?? She is not an 8 yr old or 10 yr old. She is 15 and knows damn well what she is doing. An if someone is to stop her, then it should be left to the parents. She knows what she is doing, and she's ok with sleeping around with older men.








Quoting areid1023:

this isnt about gender. i dont blame 'the guy' i blame the adult. if the genders were reversed or if it was a same sex interaction it would be just as wrong. 

yeah, so many PEOPLE are having sex young, that doesnt give adults a free pass to sleep with kids. fortunately, most adults dont have the temptation to do such a sick thing. 

in the vast majority of states (if not all, and regardless of archaic younger consent laws its still wrong) she does not have the capacity to consent. hence the reason for 'statutory' rape laws.which begs the question, how young would you like to see the legal 'cut off''? many children experience sexual abuse 'willingly' and then struggle with their perceived 'willingness'. the 15 year old child does not have the physiological or legal capacity to consent to sex with a 22 year old adult. he IS raping her because her 'willingness' means nothing. the absolute inherent imbalance of power in this type of situation implies coercion and rape. regardless of if the child says 'yes', says nothing, or 'started it'. 

this child is risking her life and someone should be there to prevent it. or at least do their darnedest by protecting her from predators like the OP's brother. 

not 'so be it'. how disturbing. 




Quoting momsince04:

If the girl is willingly sleeping with him, it's not a crime. So many girls are having sex young, and everyone always seems to blame the guy. If she wants it, then so be it. He is not raping her.











Quoting areid1023:



sick. this is not the first blind familial allegiance reply ive read but i still dont understand it. ruin HIS life? by reporting his activity in which hes most likely legally raping a child (the only reason why reporting it would 'ruin his life')? would your opinion extend to a 14 year old? 13? 10? how young?  PLUS hes an addict, as if raping young teens wasnt bad enough. 

how ruined will the girl's life be if she gets pregnant by this guy? how about if she gets an STD or HIV from this known drug addicted adult? the psychological effects, alone, of sleeping with adults when you're a child are detrimental. 

i have a sister. i would take a bullet for her. but i would never in a million years stand by while she victimized anyone, let alone a child. and while it would pain me to no end, i am adult enough to know it was her actions that got her in trouble, not me standing up for whats right.





Quoting Anonymous:

No. Dont call them. Idk exactly what the situation is but its your brother. You do know that it will ruin his life dont you. Try talking to him and the girl. Maybe you can talk some.sense into them. Does he have a history of dating underage girls? Just think about it.

























momsince04
by on Feb. 12, 2013 at 12:42 PM
I don't know how old you are, but 15 yr olds are not like how they were when I was 15. Now, they dress like hookers, act like adults and get knocked up like if it something cool. Op never said her brother is raping teenage girls, she said he is sleeping with her. Again she must be hanging out with the same group of people that he is, and I highly doubt she doesn't want it.


Quoting Anonymous:

So your saying that since she is 15 that it can't be rape. I was a tiny girl at 15 and intimidated by adults. So I guess my mom was right that when my step brother (who was 24) came into my room when I was 15 and had sex with me and I was too scared to say no. That I must have wanted it huh. Well thanks for putting it into your prospective for me. Damn at 15 whether you WANT TO OR NOT in a lot of situations the CHILD is too intimidated to say no.




Quoting momsince04:

She's 15 and knows what she is doing. Yes op brothe is sick and irresponsible for sleeping w a 15 yr old, but she probably is as much as a pos as he is. Either way, she knows what she is doing. It's up to her parents do something with their slutty out of control 15 yr old.






Quoting areid1023:

good lord. so i guess 10 is your cutoff then? barf. 11, 12, 13, 14? all ok? 

luckily most states disagree with you.

i am yet to meet a 15 year old that knows what they're doing. they certainly do NOT know what they're doing when it comes to adult relationships.

and 'sleeping around'? as far as we know she is only sleeping (aka being raped by) with the OP's 22 year old brother. your bias is showing. if it wasnt for the adult having sex with her who knows if she'd be having sex at all. the imbalance of power makes it impossible to tell, hence, and once again, consent laws.







Quoting momsince04:

How can you say a 15 yr old is not able to consent to sex?? She is not an 8 yr old or 10 yr old. She is 15 and knows damn well what she is doing. An if someone is to stop her, then it should be left to the parents. She knows what she is doing, and she's ok with sleeping around with older men.











Quoting areid1023:

this isnt about gender. i dont blame 'the guy' i blame the adult. if the genders were reversed or if it was a same sex interaction it would be just as wrong. 

yeah, so many PEOPLE are having sex young, that doesnt give adults a free pass to sleep with kids. fortunately, most adults dont have the temptation to do such a sick thing. 

in the vast majority of states (if not all, and regardless of archaic younger consent laws its still wrong) she does not have the capacity to consent. hence the reason for 'statutory' rape laws.which begs the question, how young would you like to see the legal 'cut off''? many children experience sexual abuse 'willingly' and then struggle with their perceived 'willingness'. the 15 year old child does not have the physiological or legal capacity to consent to sex with a 22 year old adult. he IS raping her because her 'willingness' means nothing. the absolute inherent imbalance of power in this type of situation implies coercion and rape. regardless of if the child says 'yes', says nothing, or 'started it'. 

this child is risking her life and someone should be there to prevent it. or at least do their darnedest by protecting her from predators like the OP's brother. 

not 'so be it'. how disturbing. 





Quoting momsince04:

If the girl is willingly sleeping with him, it's not a crime. So many girls are having sex young, and everyone always seems to blame the guy. If she wants it, then so be it. He is not raping her.














Quoting areid1023:



sick. this is not the first blind familial allegiance reply ive read but i still dont understand it. ruin HIS life? by reporting his activity in which hes most likely legally raping a child (the only reason why reporting it would 'ruin his life')? would your opinion extend to a 14 year old? 13? 10? how young?  PLUS hes an addict, as if raping young teens wasnt bad enough. 

how ruined will the girl's life be if she gets pregnant by this guy? how about if she gets an STD or HIV from this known drug addicted adult? the psychological effects, alone, of sleeping with adults when you're a child are detrimental. 

i have a sister. i would take a bullet for her. but i would never in a million years stand by while she victimized anyone, let alone a child. and while it would pain me to no end, i am adult enough to know it was her actions that got her in trouble, not me standing up for whats right.






Quoting Anonymous:

No. Dont call them. Idk exactly what the situation is but its your brother. You do know that it will ruin his life dont you. Try talking to him and the girl. Maybe you can talk some.sense into them. Does he have a history of dating underage girls? Just think about it.































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thecoffeefairy
by on Feb. 12, 2013 at 12:44 PM
This


Quoting Anonymous:

I would let her parents know and let them handle it.


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StarburstKisses
by Silver Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 12:44 PM

I was 16 dating a 23 year old. Granted he didn't have that or anything similar on his record as you described.

We're now married. I kept it a secret until I was about 16 1/2. I moved out at 17. We're now married and have been togethr for 5 years and we're doing good. 

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Feb. 12, 2013 at 12:47 PM

 Yes, I would call the cops. Especially since he has a criminal history...

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Feb. 12, 2013 at 12:51 PM
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Well I am 27 and I dressed the way you would probably consider slutty. Short shorts belly shits bikini tops and shorts. That's the way it was. That doesn't mean that an ADULT should take advantage of a child. Its still rape whether the child says yes or not. The ADULT should know better. Plus at 15 she could just be having sex because she is scared of what this man might do to her if she don't like I was.


Quoting momsince04:

I don't know how old you are, but 15 yr olds are not like how they were when I was 15. Now, they dress like hookers, act like adults and get knocked up like if it something cool. Op never said her brother is raping teenage girls, she said he is sleeping with her. Again she must be hanging out with the same group of people that he is, and I highly doubt she doesn't want it.




Quoting Anonymous:

So your saying that since she is 15 that it can't be rape. I was a tiny girl at 15 and intimidated by adults. So I guess my mom was right that when my step brother (who was 24) came into my room when I was 15 and had sex with me and I was too scared to say no. That I must have wanted it huh. Well thanks for putting it into your prospective for me. Damn at 15 whether you WANT TO OR NOT in a lot of situations the CHILD is too intimidated to say no.






Quoting momsince04:

She's 15 and knows what she is doing. Yes op brothe is sick and irresponsible for sleeping w a 15 yr old, but she probably is as much as a pos as he is. Either way, she knows what she is doing. It's up to her parents do something with their slutty out of control 15 yr old.








Quoting areid1023:

good lord. so i guess 10 is your cutoff then? barf. 11, 12, 13, 14? all ok? 

luckily most states disagree with you.

i am yet to meet a 15 year old that knows what they're doing. they certainly do NOT know what they're doing when it comes to adult relationships.

and 'sleeping around'? as far as we know she is only sleeping (aka being raped by) with the OP's 22 year old brother. your bias is showing. if it wasnt for the adult having sex with her who knows if she'd be having sex at all. the imbalance of power makes it impossible to tell, hence, and once again, consent laws.








Quoting momsince04:

How can you say a 15 yr old is not able to consent to sex?? She is not an 8 yr old or 10 yr old. She is 15 and knows damn well what she is doing. An if someone is to stop her, then it should be left to the parents. She knows what she is doing, and she's ok with sleeping around with older men.














Quoting areid1023:

this isnt about gender. i dont blame 'the guy' i blame the adult. if the genders were reversed or if it was a same sex interaction it would be just as wrong. 

yeah, so many PEOPLE are having sex young, that doesnt give adults a free pass to sleep with kids. fortunately, most adults dont have the temptation to do such a sick thing. 

in the vast majority of states (if not all, and regardless of archaic younger consent laws its still wrong) she does not have the capacity to consent. hence the reason for 'statutory' rape laws.which begs the question, how young would you like to see the legal 'cut off''? many children experience sexual abuse 'willingly' and then struggle with their perceived 'willingness'. the 15 year old child does not have the physiological or legal capacity to consent to sex with a 22 year old adult. he IS raping her because her 'willingness' means nothing. the absolute inherent imbalance of power in this type of situation implies coercion and rape. regardless of if the child says 'yes', says nothing, or 'started it'. 

this child is risking her life and someone should be there to prevent it. or at least do their darnedest by protecting her from predators like the OP's brother. 

not 'so be it'. how disturbing. 






Quoting momsince04:

If the girl is willingly sleeping with him, it's not a crime. So many girls are having sex young, and everyone always seems to blame the guy. If she wants it, then so be it. He is not raping her.

















Quoting areid1023:



sick. this is not the first blind familial allegiance reply ive read but i still dont understand it. ruin HIS life? by reporting his activity in which hes most likely legally raping a child (the only reason why reporting it would 'ruin his life')? would your opinion extend to a 14 year old? 13? 10? how young?  PLUS hes an addict, as if raping young teens wasnt bad enough. 

how ruined will the girl's life be if she gets pregnant by this guy? how about if she gets an STD or HIV from this known drug addicted adult? the psychological effects, alone, of sleeping with adults when you're a child are detrimental. 

i have a sister. i would take a bullet for her. but i would never in a million years stand by while she victimized anyone, let alone a child. and while it would pain me to no end, i am adult enough to know it was her actions that got her in trouble, not me standing up for whats right.







Quoting Anonymous:

No. Dont call them. Idk exactly what the situation is but its your brother. You do know that it will ruin his life dont you. Try talking to him and the girl. Maybe you can talk some.sense into them. Does he have a history of dating underage girls? Just think about it.





































areid1023
by Bronze Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 12:55 PM


i am so so sorry that happened to you. i am so sorry your mom betrayed you like that. what a violation upon violation. 

Quoting Anonymous:

So your saying that since she is 15 that it can't be rape. I was a tiny girl at 15 and intimidated by adults. So I guess my mom was right that when my step brother (who was 24) came into my room when I was 15 and had sex with me and I was too scared to say no. That I must have wanted it huh. Well thanks for putting it into your prospective for me. Damn at 15 whether you WANT TO OR NOT in a lot of situations the CHILD is too intimidated to say no.


Quoting momsince04:

She's 15 and knows what she is doing. Yes op brothe is sick and irresponsible for sleeping w a 15 yr old, but she probably is as much as a pos as he is. Either way, she knows what she is doing. It's up to her parents do something with their slutty out of control 15 yr old.




Quoting areid1023:

good lord. so i guess 10 is your cutoff then? barf. 11, 12, 13, 14? all ok? 

luckily most states disagree with you.

i am yet to meet a 15 year old that knows what they're doing. they certainly do NOT know what they're doing when it comes to adult relationships.

and 'sleeping around'? as far as we know she is only sleeping (aka being raped by) with the OP's 22 year old brother. your bias is showing. if it wasnt for the adult having sex with her who knows if she'd be having sex at all. the imbalance of power makes it impossible to tell, hence, and once again, consent laws.






Quoting momsince04:

How can you say a 15 yr old is not able to consent to sex?? She is not an 8 yr old or 10 yr old. She is 15 and knows damn well what she is doing. An if someone is to stop her, then it should be left to the parents. She knows what she is doing, and she's ok with sleeping around with older men.








Quoting areid1023:

this isnt about gender. i dont blame 'the guy' i blame the adult. if the genders were reversed or if it was a same sex interaction it would be just as wrong. 

yeah, so many PEOPLE are having sex young, that doesnt give adults a free pass to sleep with kids. fortunately, most adults dont have the temptation to do such a sick thing. 

in the vast majority of states (if not all, and regardless of archaic younger consent laws its still wrong) she does not have the capacity to consent. hence the reason for 'statutory' rape laws.which begs the question, how young would you like to see the legal 'cut off''? many children experience sexual abuse 'willingly' and then struggle with their perceived 'willingness'. the 15 year old child does not have the physiological or legal capacity to consent to sex with a 22 year old adult. he IS raping her because her 'willingness' means nothing. the absolute inherent imbalance of power in this type of situation implies coercion and rape. regardless of if the child says 'yes', says nothing, or 'started it'. 

this child is risking her life and someone should be there to prevent it. or at least do their darnedest by protecting her from predators like the OP's brother. 

not 'so be it'. how disturbing. 




Quoting momsince04:

If the girl is willingly sleeping with him, it's not a crime. So many girls are having sex young, and everyone always seems to blame the guy. If she wants it, then so be it. He is not raping her.











Quoting areid1023:



sick. this is not the first blind familial allegiance reply ive read but i still dont understand it. ruin HIS life? by reporting his activity in which hes most likely legally raping a child (the only reason why reporting it would 'ruin his life')? would your opinion extend to a 14 year old? 13? 10? how young?  PLUS hes an addict, as if raping young teens wasnt bad enough. 

how ruined will the girl's life be if she gets pregnant by this guy? how about if she gets an STD or HIV from this known drug addicted adult? the psychological effects, alone, of sleeping with adults when you're a child are detrimental. 

i have a sister. i would take a bullet for her. but i would never in a million years stand by while she victimized anyone, let alone a child. and while it would pain me to no end, i am adult enough to know it was her actions that got her in trouble, not me standing up for whats right.





Quoting Anonymous:

No. Dont call them. Idk exactly what the situation is but its your brother. You do know that it will ruin his life dont you. Try talking to him and the girl. Maybe you can talk some.sense into them. Does he have a history of dating underage girls? Just think about it.



























 my little bug! 11-29-08

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