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Question: What religion are you?

Options:

Aithiest/non-believe

Agnostic/Unsure at the moment

Christian based (catholic, baptist, mormon, lothrin, etc)

Islamic religions (muslim, and a liist of others)

Judaism (Jewish based religions)

East Asian religions (budhism, taoism, confusiousism)

Paganism (wicca, druidism, witches, native beliefs, african beliefs, south american beliefs etc)

Hinduism

Any religion that doesn't fall under the above unbrealla terms

Satanism or other similar beliefs

Fictional religions like scientology or Jedi

Occult, voodo etc


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Total Votes: 188

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by on Feb. 19, 2013 at 4:09 AM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous on Feb. 19, 2013 at 4:44 AM


Ok, well, I can't say that I agree, but you are entitled to your beliefs. I wish you well in your spiritual journey.

Quoting sugarcrisp:


 Followers are atheists who stress dependence on the self rather than reliance on any outside power. It encourages individualism, hedonism, materialism, ego, personal initiative, self-worth and self-determinism.



1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!

Nothing is to be gained by denying oneself pleasure. Religious calls for abstinence most often come from faiths that view the physical world and its pleasures as spiritually dangerous. Satanism is a world-affirming, not world-denying, religion. However, the encouragement of indulgence does not equate mindless submersion into pleasures. Sometimes refrain leads to heightened enjoyment later, in which case patience and discipline are encouraged. Finally, indulgence requires one to always be in control. If satisfying a desire becomes a compulsion (such as an addiction), then control has been surrendered to the object of desire, which is never encouraged.

2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!

Reality and existence is sacred, and the truth of that existence is to be honored and sought at all times, never to be sacrificed for a comforting lie or an unverified claim one cannot bother to investigate.

3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!

True knowledge takes work and strength. It is something one finds rather than what will be handed to you. Doubt everything and avoid dogma. Truth tells of how the world truly is, not of how we would like it to be. Be wary of shallow emotional wants, for they frequently can only be satisfied at the expense of truth.

4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it [not] love wasted on ingrates!

There is nothing in Satanism that encourages wanton cruelty or unkindness. There is nothing productive in that, but it is also unproductive to waste your energy on people who will not appreciate or reciprocate it. Treating others as they treat you will form meaningful and productive bonds while letting parasites know that you will not waste your time with them.

5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!

Leaving wrongs unpunished merely encourages miscreants to continue preying on both yourself and others, and those who do not stand up for themselves end up being trampled. This is not, however, an encouragement for misbehavior. Becoming a bully in the name of vengeance is not only dishonest but it also invites others to bring vengeance upon yourself. The same goes for illegal actions of retribution: break the law and you become the miscreant that the law should come down on swiftly and harshly.

6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible...!

Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires! Real leaders are determined by their actions and accomplishments, not their titles, and real power and responsibility should be given to those who can wield it, not to those who simply demand it.

7. Satan represents man as just another animal...!

Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all! Elevating the human species as somehow innately superior to other animals is blatant self-deceit. Humanity is driven by the same natural urges that other animals experience. While our intellect has allowed us to accomplish truly great things (which should be appreciated), it can also be credited with incredible and wanton acts of cruelty throughout history.

8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins...!

Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification! In general, the concept of “sin” is something that breaks a moral or religious law, and Satanism is strictly against such following of dogma. When a Satanist avoids an action, it is because of concrete reasons, not simply because dogma dictates it or someone has judged it “bad”. In addition, when a Satanists realizes that he or she has committed an actual wrong, the correct response is to accept it, learn from it, and not do it again, rather than mentally beat himself or herself up for it or begging for forgiveness.

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had...!

Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years! This last statement is largely a declaration against dogmatic and fear-based religion. If there were no temptations, if we did not have the natures that we do, if there was nothing to fear, then few people would submit themselves to the rules and abuses that have developed in other religions (specifically Christianity) over the centuries.


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  1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
  2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
  3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
  4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
  5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
  6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
  7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
  8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
  9. Do not harm little children.
  10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
  11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.



1. Stupidity

Stupid people do not get ahead in this world. Satanists strive to keep themselves informed and to not be fooled by others who seek to manipulate and use them.

2. Pretentiousness

Taking pride in one’s achievements is encouraged in Satanism. However, one should only take credit for one’s own accomplishments. Making empty claims about yourself is not only obnoxious but also potentially dangerous, leading to sin No. 4, self-deceit.

3. Solipsism

Satanists use this term to refer to the presumption many people make that other people think, act and have the same desires as themselves. It’s important to remember that everyone is an individual with his own individual goals and plans. To expect someone to treat you as you treat him is foolish. Instead, Satanists encourages you to treat people as they treat you. You should always deal with the reality of the situation rather than expectations.

4. Self-Deceit

Satanists deal with the world as it is. Convincing yourself of untruths because they are more comfortable is no less problematic than letting someone else deceive you.

5. Herd Conformity

Satanism exalts the power of the individual. Western culture encourages people to go with the flow, and to believe and do things simply because the wider community is doing such. Satanists attempt to avoid such behavior, following the herd only if it makes logical sense and suits one’s own needs.

6. Lack of Perspective

Remain aware of both the big and small pictures, never sacrificing one for the other. Remember your own important place in things, and don’t be overwhelmed with the viewpoints of the herd. On the flipside, we do live in a world larger than ourselves. Always keep an eye on the big picture and how you can fit yourself into it.

7. Forgetful of Past Orthodoxies

Society is constantly taking old ideas and repackaging them as new, original ideas. Do not be fooled by such offerings.

8. Counterproductive Pride

If it works, use it. You should never be embarrassed of your own accomplishments. However, if pride is getting in the way of getting things done with other people, you should set it aside until such time as it becomes constructive again.

9. Lack of Aesthetics

Beauty and balance are two things Satanists strive for. This is particularly true in magical practices but can be extended to the rest of one’s life as well. Avoid following that which society dictates is beautiful and learn to identify true beauty, whether or not others recognize it.




I appreciate that it is viewed that we need to give in to our pleasures/desires to fulfill our own happiness. This helps keep one mentally sane and completely capable of alertness and a better ability to make sound decisions, especially when need be.
Furthermore, I appreciate that, really, it's a lot of common sense.
Quoting Anonymous:


I just tried looking up some info about LaVeyan Satanism and I had to stop reading because it made me, well, sad in a way. I am not trying to bash you, but could you tell me what attracts you to this religion, and what it means to you? Trying to understand...

Quoting sugarcrisp:

I love how 9% of the current vote goes towards Satanism (or other similar beliefs) yet none of them comment.

I'll pipe up. I'm agnostic/leaning towards the teachings of LaVeyan Satanism. I even posted a thread about LaVeyan Satanism not too long ago.I LOLd at the reactions of some. The sheer ignorance saddened yet entertained me.







IndigoRose
by on Feb. 19, 2013 at 4:56 AM
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I'm Pagan.  And, have been all my life.  Actually, I'm the third generation in a family that can claim Hereditary Witchcraft.  My grandma was an Herb Woman and Psychic Healer; my Great Aunt (her older sister) read the crystals and was a midwife.  My daughter and son are of the Old Religion too,---my daughter is into Shamanism and my son is of the Warrior Craft.  We are educating my grandaughters in the Old Ways, but it's, of course, their choice.  If they wanted to espose another religion we would let them.  Altogether, my family has over 100 years in our religion.

( the above pics were taken at Samhain time.)  ...Blessed be!...   

alf2651
by Gold Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 4:57 AM

I'm unsure at the moment, but my DH is Hindu.

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by Gold Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 5:00 AM
We are practicing Catholics.
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by Anonymous on Feb. 19, 2013 at 5:03 AM

Nondenominational

Irishgirlx959
by Gold Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 5:06 AM

I'm Non Denominational.

Caitlyn137
by Bronze Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 5:06 AM
Scientology
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Piskie
by Silver Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 5:19 AM
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I'm a druid. Proper English one too lol. Oh, and you forgot Sikhism. Is that not a big one in America?
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romalove
by SakePrincess on Feb. 19, 2013 at 5:22 AM


Quoting Caitlyn137:

Scientology

Are you really?

Why?

Caitlyn137
by Bronze Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 5:34 AM
Well I was , its kinda hard to stick with very expensive .
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