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We bring home 5k a month and are still negative.

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My husband brings home 5k a month and not only are we ALWAYS negative in the bank, half are bills don't get paid. Sadly we don't even have many. Rent, utilities, cell phones, and car insurance.

He thinks it's because I spend to much and I think it's because he spends to much.

I sure as hell am NOT going to cut down on spending if he doesn't. I deserve to get things I want too.



Posted by Anonymous on Feb. 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM
Replies (281-290):
Anonymous
by Anonymous 56 on Feb. 24, 2013 at 9:59 AM
I would kill to have that much.
Mazie0723
by Ruby Member on Feb. 24, 2013 at 10:00 AM
It's called not living within your means. My DH make less then that and our bills are always paid and we have more bills then you. How many people are in your family?
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anyotherday
by Ruby Member on Feb. 24, 2013 at 10:02 AM

you are both idiots. Complete and total MORONS

AprilDJC
by on Feb. 24, 2013 at 10:02 AM
It varies from place to place. At some bases even in privatized housing bah did not ever show on our les. But when we were at JBLM it did show up on his les as income and was a allotment to equity housing on the les, so it was counted as income.

Quoting Anonymous:

No, it's not on your LES, you just don't get any money if you live on base. I'm done arguing with you, ffs.  Be smart about this. Our LES doesn't show jack shit in BAH area, nor does the BAH affect his pay. He makes $14392 less a year than a person in this area making BAH. And the proof is on the W-2 and the LES. YTD is even different than someone who gets BAH.

Quoting Anonymous:

You still received BAH you just use it to pay for housing and utilities. Since the vast majority of housing is privatized now it even still shows up on your les as income... they just take it in the allotments section.



We live off post and have our rent set up in an allotment because its easier than writing a check every month... does that mean that we don't really get that $1300?



Just because it immediately goes out of your check to pay for housing doesn't mean that you aren't still getting it.





Quoting Anonymous:

omg you're not listening. are you dense? Not Everyone Gets BAH. People can live on base (not pay rent, but not get the BAH), and they forfeit the BAH. Meaning, they make anywhere from $9600 to $14400 LESS than everyone making BAH.  Do you UNDERSTAND that now?

Quoting Anonymous:

Every married active duty or agr soldier gets BAH or OHA and if they get OHA they also get COLA, which is also income. Which is why I said that a married private makes $30,000.





I am not sure of the rules for unmarried parents, I think that as long as they have some kind of split custody that get BAH at the With dependents rate but I'm not sure about that.








Quoting Anonymous:

Not everyone gets bah. Although the bah here is $1000.







Quoting Anonymous:

he's an e6 with 10 years in, we pcsed last year so bah changed from 1200 to 1400 in July and we also made about a thousand on the partial duty move, which is also income. I know how to read an les... under the ytd entitlements...















And its not possible that your dh only made under 30k last year. Base pay alone is 27,000. Non locality BAH... base line bah without a location for e4 is 704.90 for 2012. Bas was what 325 last year? So that's another 12,000 so your dh made at least 40,000 last year and that's if he wasn't deployed or had any other special pays.





















Quoting Anonymous:

My DH made under $30k last year, he is an E-4, in for four years last year. Sorry but unless you tell us your dh rank and how long he is in for, I call Bs!















Quoting mylifemylove864:

Oh no, you are absolutely right about that... military families have no clue how easy and good they have it. There were just a few discrepancies that I wanted to correct. As women on here are crazy and take things so literally. :)



















Military families have it very good.

























Quoting SoltaniMommy:

I speak from my own experience as a DoD contractor.  

When I left my position... The transition was daunting.  I had just realized how catered the military really is.

My first point of business, was healthcare.  For my family of 5 costs me $2000 a month, where before it was a fraction of that... Cosmetically.

Then when it came to housing, that BAH you speak of is still money given to you by the government.  CONUS you live beneath BAH you get to pocket the rest.  OCONUS not so much.  So really it depends on whether or not you live above or below your BAH.

and then some, but this is (again) based on my observation and experience.  Things may have changed since 2010.












Quoting mylifemylove864:

Well some of that is true. Most housing is privatized and your BAH is just taken for your housing and utility is capped So if you go over you pay for it.





















You receive BAH whether you live in housing or not. Medical is free but dental is not. Tax.free shopping is really no big deal... but commissary privileges are a big deal.
































Quoting SoltaniMommy:

The military has a different lifestyle...

tax free shopping free healthcare and dental.  If they live on base, then free rent and utilities... Etc.

Military cannot be compared to civilian life.












Quoting mylifemylove864:

Lol that's not true at all. A married private makes 30,000 a year.

























My DH is enlisted and made 68,000 last year.




































Quoting Anonymous:

Really? Military only makes $15,000-30,000 a year :/

Quoting MalakbelLacuna:

this also

60k is a joke in my area if you want to live comfortably

Quoting wkukid:

It's only 60k a year. That's not much anymore.





































































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Anonymous
by Anonymous 57 on Feb. 24, 2013 at 10:03 AM
I'm not an accountant and this makes my eye twitch. We make about 5,000 a month as well. We have about 2500 in expenses(rent, phone, etc) but I still have about 2500 left over. I put put 1500 in our savings. 500 in random expense fund(car, clothes, etc) 500 in our vacation fund. Each month! I couldn't imagine being in the negatives


Quoting VannaMae307:

As an accountant, this makes my eye twitch.


Kermitthemom23
by Silver Member on Feb. 24, 2013 at 10:03 AM
I pretty much agree with all of page 1
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 36 on Feb. 24, 2013 at 10:03 AM
Then yours is one of the very few that isn't privatized. Or a weird privatized that doesn't want an allotment.



Regardless, you're getting housing in lieu of bah. Does it really matter that it doesn't show up on his les? The premise is still the same. They take it to pay for your housing and utilities. If you moved off base you would receive it and use it to pay for housing and utilities.



Non monetary income is still income. Housing, free medical insurance and care, etc.







Quoting Anonymous:

No, it's not on your LES, you just don't get any money if you live on base. I'm done arguing with you, ffs.  Be smart about this. Our LES doesn't show jack shit in BAH area, nor does the BAH affect his pay. He makes $14392 less a year than a person in this area making BAH. And the proof is on the W-2 and the LES. YTD is even different than someone who gets BAH.

Quoting Anonymous:

You still received BAH you just use it to pay for housing and utilities. Since the vast majority of housing is privatized now it even still shows up on your les as income... they just take it in the allotments section.





We live off post and have our rent set up in an allotment because its easier than writing a check every month... does that mean that we don't really get that $1300?





Just because it immediately goes out of your check to pay for housing doesn't mean that you aren't still getting it.








Quoting Anonymous:

omg you're not listening. are you dense? Not Everyone Gets BAH. People can live on base (not pay rent, but not get the BAH), and they forfeit the BAH. Meaning, they make anywhere from $9600 to $14400 LESS than everyone making BAH.  Do you UNDERSTAND that now?

Quoting Anonymous:

Every married active duty or agr soldier gets BAH or OHA and if they get OHA they also get COLA, which is also income. Which is why I said that a married private makes $30,000.







I am not sure of the rules for unmarried parents, I think that as long as they have some kind of split custody that get BAH at the With dependents rate but I'm not sure about that.











Quoting Anonymous:

Not everyone gets bah. Although the bah here is $1000.









Quoting Anonymous:

he's an e6 with 10 years in, we pcsed last year so bah changed from 1200 to 1400 in July and we also made about a thousand on the partial duty move, which is also income. I know how to read an les... under the ytd entitlements...

















And its not possible that your dh only made under 30k last year. Base pay alone is 27,000. Non locality BAH... base line bah without a location for e4 is 704.90 for 2012. Bas was what 325 last year? So that's another 12,000 so your dh made at least 40,000 last year and that's if he wasn't deployed or had any other special pays.
























Quoting Anonymous:

My DH made under $30k last year, he is an E-4, in for four years last year. Sorry but unless you tell us your dh rank and how long he is in for, I call Bs!

















Quoting mylifemylove864:

Oh no, you are absolutely right about that... military families have no clue how easy and good they have it. There were just a few discrepancies that I wanted to correct. As women on here are crazy and take things so literally. :)





















Military families have it very good.




























Quoting SoltaniMommy:

I speak from my own experience as a DoD contractor.  

When I left my position... The transition was daunting.  I had just realized how catered the military really is.

My first point of business, was healthcare.  For my family of 5 costs me $2000 a month, where before it was a fraction of that... Cosmetically.

Then when it came to housing, that BAH you speak of is still money given to you by the government.  CONUS you live beneath BAH you get to pocket the rest.  OCONUS not so much.  So really it depends on whether or not you live above or below your BAH.

and then some, but this is (again) based on my observation and experience.  Things may have changed since 2010.













Quoting mylifemylove864:

Well some of that is true. Most housing is privatized and your BAH is just taken for your housing and utility is capped So if you go over you pay for it.























You receive BAH whether you live in housing or not. Medical is free but dental is not. Tax.free shopping is really no big deal... but commissary privileges are a big deal.



































Quoting SoltaniMommy:

The military has a different lifestyle...

tax free shopping free healthcare and dental.  If they live on base, then free rent and utilities... Etc.

Military cannot be compared to civilian life.













Quoting mylifemylove864:

Lol that's not true at all. A married private makes 30,000 a year.



























My DH is enlisted and made 68,000 last year.







































Quoting Anonymous:

Really? Military only makes $15,000-30,000 a year :/

Quoting MalakbelLacuna:

this also

60k is a joke in my area if you want to live comfortably

Quoting wkukid:

It's only 60k a year. That's not much anymore.














































































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Coconutty4Hubby
by Cafe Goddess on Feb. 24, 2013 at 10:07 AM

We weren't privatized, but going through the privatization, so the BAH never showed up on our LES for 2 years!  Weird. I've heard about others saying the money was on there and included in the YTD.  But it wasn't on ours!

Quoting AprilDJC:

It varies from place to place. At some bases even in privatized housing bah did not ever show on our les. But when we were at JBLM it did show up on his les as income and was a allotment to equity housing on the les, so it was counted as income.

Quoting Anonymous:

No, it's not on your LES, you just don't get any money if you live on base. I'm done arguing with you, ffs.  Be smart about this. Our LES doesn't show jack shit in BAH area, nor does the BAH affect his pay. He makes $14392 less a year than a person in this area making BAH. And the proof is on the W-2 and the LES. YTD is even different than someone who gets BAH.

Quoting Anonymous:

You still received BAH you just use it to pay for housing and utilities. Since the vast majority of housing is privatized now it even still shows up on your les as income... they just take it in the allotments section.



We live off post and have our rent set up in an allotment because its easier than writing a check every month... does that mean that we don't really get that $1300?



Just because it immediately goes out of your check to pay for housing doesn't mean that you aren't still getting it.





Quoting Anonymous:

omg you're not listening. are you dense? Not Everyone Gets BAH. People can live on base (not pay rent, but not get the BAH), and they forfeit the BAH. Meaning, they make anywhere from $9600 to $14400 LESS than everyone making BAH.  Do you UNDERSTAND that now?

Quoting Anonymous:

Every married active duty or agr soldier gets BAH or OHA and if they get OHA they also get COLA, which is also income. Which is why I said that a married private makes $30,000.





I am not sure of the rules for unmarried parents, I think that as long as they have some kind of split custody that get BAH at the With dependents rate but I'm not sure about that.








Quoting Anonymous:

Not everyone gets bah. Although the bah here is $1000.







Quoting Anonymous:

he's an e6 with 10 years in, we pcsed last year so bah changed from 1200 to 1400 in July and we also made about a thousand on the partial duty move, which is also income. I know how to read an les... under the ytd entitlements...















And its not possible that your dh only made under 30k last year. Base pay alone is 27,000. Non locality BAH... base line bah without a location for e4 is 704.90 for 2012. Bas was what 325 last year? So that's another 12,000 so your dh made at least 40,000 last year and that's if he wasn't deployed or had any other special pays.





















Quoting Anonymous:

My DH made under $30k last year, he is an E-4, in for four years last year. Sorry but unless you tell us your dh rank and how long he is in for, I call Bs!















Quoting mylifemylove864:

Oh no, you are absolutely right about that... military families have no clue how easy and good they have it. There were just a few discrepancies that I wanted to correct. As women on here are crazy and take things so literally. :)



















Military families have it very good.

























Quoting SoltaniMommy:

I speak from my own experience as a DoD contractor.  

When I left my position... The transition was daunting.  I had just realized how catered the military really is.

My first point of business, was healthcare.  For my family of 5 costs me $2000 a month, where before it was a fraction of that... Cosmetically.

Then when it came to housing, that BAH you speak of is still money given to you by the government.  CONUS you live beneath BAH you get to pocket the rest.  OCONUS not so much.  So really it depends on whether or not you live above or below your BAH.

and then some, but this is (again) based on my observation and experience.  Things may have changed since 2010.












Quoting mylifemylove864:

Well some of that is true. Most housing is privatized and your BAH is just taken for your housing and utility is capped So if you go over you pay for it.





















You receive BAH whether you live in housing or not. Medical is free but dental is not. Tax.free shopping is really no big deal... but commissary privileges are a big deal.
































Quoting SoltaniMommy:

The military has a different lifestyle...

tax free shopping free healthcare and dental.  If they live on base, then free rent and utilities... Etc.

Military cannot be compared to civilian life.












Quoting mylifemylove864:

Lol that's not true at all. A married private makes 30,000 a year.

























My DH is enlisted and made 68,000 last year.




































Quoting Anonymous:

Really? Military only makes $15,000-30,000 a year :/

Quoting MalakbelLacuna:

this also

60k is a joke in my area if you want to live comfortably

Quoting wkukid:

It's only 60k a year. That's not much anymore.






































































Anonymous
by Anonymous 36 on Feb. 24, 2013 at 10:09 AM
Not to mention BAH doesn't show up on your W2 Neither does bas or any other non taxable allowance

Every place we have been that was privatized it has shown up and taken on his les. When we lived in housing that wasnt privatized... many years ago, it didnt. But we knew we were getting housing in lieu of bah. We weren't "making less" we were just paying it all to housing.


Quoting AprilDJC:

It varies from place to place. At some bases even in privatized housing bah did not ever show on our les. But when we were at JBLM it did show up on his les as income and was a allotment to equity housing on the les, so it was counted as income.



Quoting Anonymous:

No, it's not on your LES, you just don't get any money if you live on base. I'm done arguing with you, ffs.  Be smart about this. Our LES doesn't show jack shit in BAH area, nor does the BAH affect his pay. He makes $14392 less a year than a person in this area making BAH. And the proof is on the W-2 and the LES. YTD is even different than someone who gets BAH.

Quoting Anonymous:

You still received BAH you just use it to pay for housing and utilities. Since the vast majority of housing is privatized now it even still shows up on your les as income... they just take it in the allotments section.





We live off post and have our rent set up in an allotment because its easier than writing a check every month... does that mean that we don't really get that $1300?





Just because it immediately goes out of your check to pay for housing doesn't mean that you aren't still getting it.








Quoting Anonymous:

omg you're not listening. are you dense? Not Everyone Gets BAH. People can live on base (not pay rent, but not get the BAH), and they forfeit the BAH. Meaning, they make anywhere from $9600 to $14400 LESS than everyone making BAH.  Do you UNDERSTAND that now?

Quoting Anonymous:

Every married active duty or agr soldier gets BAH or OHA and if they get OHA they also get COLA, which is also income. Which is why I said that a married private makes $30,000.







I am not sure of the rules for unmarried parents, I think that as long as they have some kind of split custody that get BAH at the With dependents rate but I'm not sure about that.











Quoting Anonymous:

Not everyone gets bah. Although the bah here is $1000.









Quoting Anonymous:

he's an e6 with 10 years in, we pcsed last year so bah changed from 1200 to 1400 in July and we also made about a thousand on the partial duty move, which is also income. I know how to read an les... under the ytd entitlements...

















And its not possible that your dh only made under 30k last year. Base pay alone is 27,000. Non locality BAH... base line bah without a location for e4 is 704.90 for 2012. Bas was what 325 last year? So that's another 12,000 so your dh made at least 40,000 last year and that's if he wasn't deployed or had any other special pays.
























Quoting Anonymous:

My DH made under $30k last year, he is an E-4, in for four years last year. Sorry but unless you tell us your dh rank and how long he is in for, I call Bs!

















Quoting mylifemylove864:

Oh no, you are absolutely right about that... military families have no clue how easy and good they have it. There were just a few discrepancies that I wanted to correct. As women on here are crazy and take things so literally. :)





















Military families have it very good.




























Quoting SoltaniMommy:

I speak from my own experience as a DoD contractor.  

When I left my position... The transition was daunting.  I had just realized how catered the military really is.

My first point of business, was healthcare.  For my family of 5 costs me $2000 a month, where before it was a fraction of that... Cosmetically.

Then when it came to housing, that BAH you speak of is still money given to you by the government.  CONUS you live beneath BAH you get to pocket the rest.  OCONUS not so much.  So really it depends on whether or not you live above or below your BAH.

and then some, but this is (again) based on my observation and experience.  Things may have changed since 2010.













Quoting mylifemylove864:

Well some of that is true. Most housing is privatized and your BAH is just taken for your housing and utility is capped So if you go over you pay for it.























You receive BAH whether you live in housing or not. Medical is free but dental is not. Tax.free shopping is really no big deal... but commissary privileges are a big deal.



































Quoting SoltaniMommy:

The military has a different lifestyle...

tax free shopping free healthcare and dental.  If they live on base, then free rent and utilities... Etc.

Military cannot be compared to civilian life.













Quoting mylifemylove864:

Lol that's not true at all. A married private makes 30,000 a year.



























My DH is enlisted and made 68,000 last year.







































Quoting Anonymous:

Really? Military only makes $15,000-30,000 a year :/

Quoting MalakbelLacuna:

this also

60k is a joke in my area if you want to live comfortably

Quoting wkukid:

It's only 60k a year. That's not much anymore.













































































AprilDJC
by on Feb. 24, 2013 at 10:10 AM
Yeah we were at JBLM for 7 years. Only the last 2 years our bah showed on the les, after we were fully privatized.

Quoting Coconutty4Hubby:

We weren't privatized, but going through the privatization, so the BAH never showed up on our LES for 2 years!  Weird. I've heard about others saying the money was on there and included in the YTD.  But it wasn't on ours!

Quoting AprilDJC:

It varies from place to place. At some bases even in privatized housing bah did not ever show on our les. But when we were at JBLM it did show up on his les as income and was a allotment to equity housing on the les, so it was counted as income.



Quoting Anonymous:

No, it's not on your LES, you just don't get any money if you live on base. I'm done arguing with you, ffs.  Be smart about this. Our LES doesn't show jack shit in BAH area, nor does the BAH affect his pay. He makes $14392 less a year than a person in this area making BAH. And the proof is on the W-2 and the LES. YTD is even different than someone who gets BAH.

Quoting Anonymous:

You still received BAH you just use it to pay for housing and utilities. Since the vast majority of housing is privatized now it even still shows up on your les as income... they just take it in the allotments section.





We live off post and have our rent set up in an allotment because its easier than writing a check every month... does that mean that we don't really get that $1300?





Just because it immediately goes out of your check to pay for housing doesn't mean that you aren't still getting it.








Quoting Anonymous:

omg you're not listening. are you dense? Not Everyone Gets BAH. People can live on base (not pay rent, but not get the BAH), and they forfeit the BAH. Meaning, they make anywhere from $9600 to $14400 LESS than everyone making BAH.  Do you UNDERSTAND that now?

Quoting Anonymous:

Every married active duty or agr soldier gets BAH or OHA and if they get OHA they also get COLA, which is also income. Which is why I said that a married private makes $30,000.







I am not sure of the rules for unmarried parents, I think that as long as they have some kind of split custody that get BAH at the With dependents rate but I'm not sure about that.











Quoting Anonymous:

Not everyone gets bah. Although the bah here is $1000.









Quoting Anonymous:

he's an e6 with 10 years in, we pcsed last year so bah changed from 1200 to 1400 in July and we also made about a thousand on the partial duty move, which is also income. I know how to read an les... under the ytd entitlements...

















And its not possible that your dh only made under 30k last year. Base pay alone is 27,000. Non locality BAH... base line bah without a location for e4 is 704.90 for 2012. Bas was what 325 last year? So that's another 12,000 so your dh made at least 40,000 last year and that's if he wasn't deployed or had any other special pays.
























Quoting Anonymous:

My DH made under $30k last year, he is an E-4, in for four years last year. Sorry but unless you tell us your dh rank and how long he is in for, I call Bs!

















Quoting mylifemylove864:

Oh no, you are absolutely right about that... military families have no clue how easy and good they have it. There were just a few discrepancies that I wanted to correct. As women on here are crazy and take things so literally. :)





















Military families have it very good.




























Quoting SoltaniMommy:

I speak from my own experience as a DoD contractor.  

When I left my position... The transition was daunting.  I had just realized how catered the military really is.

My first point of business, was healthcare.  For my family of 5 costs me $2000 a month, where before it was a fraction of that... Cosmetically.

Then when it came to housing, that BAH you speak of is still money given to you by the government.  CONUS you live beneath BAH you get to pocket the rest.  OCONUS not so much.  So really it depends on whether or not you live above or below your BAH.

and then some, but this is (again) based on my observation and experience.  Things may have changed since 2010.













Quoting mylifemylove864:

Well some of that is true. Most housing is privatized and your BAH is just taken for your housing and utility is capped So if you go over you pay for it.























You receive BAH whether you live in housing or not. Medical is free but dental is not. Tax.free shopping is really no big deal... but commissary privileges are a big deal.



































Quoting SoltaniMommy:

The military has a different lifestyle...

tax free shopping free healthcare and dental.  If they live on base, then free rent and utilities... Etc.

Military cannot be compared to civilian life.













Quoting mylifemylove864:

Lol that's not true at all. A married private makes 30,000 a year.



























My DH is enlisted and made 68,000 last year.







































Quoting Anonymous:

Really? Military only makes $15,000-30,000 a year :/

Quoting MalakbelLacuna:

this also

60k is a joke in my area if you want to live comfortably

Quoting wkukid:

It's only 60k a year. That's not much anymore.













































































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