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Just How Truly ‘Pro-Choice’ Is The Democratic Party?

Posted by on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:16 AM
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Question: Are pro-choicers really "pro-choice" or not?

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Totally Pro-Choice.. all the way for me!

Pro- Choice only for abortion

Not so much Pro- choice.. really when I think about it!


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When it comes to abortion rights, the Democratic Party is clearly the party of “choice.”

But are they “pro-choice” when it comes to other personal decisions people make in life? Reason TV, the video arm of libertarian Reasonmagazine, traveled to the Democratic National Convention to find out.

All of the delegates producer Zach Weissmueller interviewed affirmed their belief in a woman’s right to choose to get an abortion. “A woman has a right to choose what to do with her body,” one delegate neatly summed it up.

But what about a woman’s right to choose whether to put large sodas or foods with trans fats into her body? Not quite.

“I think a lot people make harmful decisions,” one woman said in justifying what she called government’s cigarette, alcohol, and fatty food “interventions.”

When asked about Senator Chuck Schumer‘s successful crusade to ban the alcoholic energy drink Four Loko, delegates had similarly nanny-statist responses: “Is it really a choice? You’re deciding to do something that’s not healthy for you,” one woman said.

“That’s a choice, right?” an skeptical Weissmueller responded.

“But if you decide to do something that’s not healthy for you,” she explained, “let’s talk about the results of that action that you take.”

“So people should only be allowed to make good choices?” Weissmueller asked.

“No, people should make the choices that have good results,” she concluded.

Yikes. Not even going to dissect just how utterly paternalistic that is. But does she realize that exact logic is often applied by Republicans in banning the very things she likely supports?

Republicans would claim that, hey, abortion kills a potential life — i.e., a “bad” result in their mind. Or they could also whip up some (totally false) figures about gay parents leading to worse-off children as justification for continuing to prevent same-sex marriage. When you base policy on encouraging only “good” choices, you stray into incredibly subjective territory. And also, yeah, there’s that whole thing about letting people make their own decisions and fail on occasion.

Weissmueller continued on to trip up a few delegates by asking them whether they support someone’s right to choose to join a union:

“It should be a choice to join a union,” one delegate said.

“So you’re in favor of ‘right to work’ states?” Weissmueller asked.

The delegate scrambled for a response, scratching her head, saying: “No, I — well, it’s a choice not to be in a union, but I think unions do good. So I would choose — I guess not. I guess I’m not in favor of ‘right to work.’”

The delegates also made clear their opposition to “choice” in where parents send their kids to grade school and what sort of lightbulbs people may buy.

“So maybe there’s some contradictions, but people are made up of contradictions,” a delegate concluded.

To be clear: by no means are the Republicans the “party of choice” either. Aside from the obvious abortion restrictions, this is also the party that doesn’t want you to choose who you marry (if you’re gay), what drugs you put in your body, whether you can spend your money on online gambling, etc.

Watch below, via Reason TV:

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JavaLadybug2
by on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:17 AM
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Obama, Democrats Are “Pro-Choice” on Abortion But Nothing Else

by Ken Connor | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | 12/18/12 1:41 PM

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Americans’ affirmation of the “right to choose” is a feature of our national identity. No matter where you go or what you’re doing, chances are you are confronted with a plethora of choices. Go to the supermarket and you are confronted with a dizzying array of options for each and every product you wish to buy. Seventeen brands of Greek style yogurt. Forty-five flavors of coffee creamer. Thirty-seven different kinds of peanut butter. The same may be said of cell phone carriers, automobiles,clothing brands… you name it.

The freedom of “choice” also figures prominently in the political realm, and is generally associated with the liberal or Democratic side of the aisle. Republicans are often painted as cantankerous old curmudgeons who cling blindly to guns, religion, and “the way things used to be done.” Their rigidity, we are told, often comes at the expense of “choice.” When the rhetoric is peeled away and the issues scrutinized, however, it turns out that conservatives are actually the true champions of choice while liberals tend to oppose it, unless of course the choice in question is the choice to kill your unborn child.

Last week America tuned in as swarms of Union workers stormed the Michigan state capitol to protest the passage of landmark “right to work” legislation. Reporters were punched and threats of “blood in the streets” were levied by union representatives outraged by the notion that free individuals should have the right to choose whether or not to join a union. You see, unions and their Democratic cohorts in the House and Senate (and the White House, for that matter) don’t support that kind of choice. They believe that when it comes to your work and your money, the government and their favored allies should call the shots. They think you should only have a right to work if you first pay your dues to Big Labor, which in turn lines the coffers of Big Government in the form of generous campaign contributions.

Okay, so maybe Democrats aren’t in favor of “choice” when it comes to work, but what about education? Surely they should be in favor of a system that allows parents the right to choose thebest education for their children. Unfortunately, no. Turns out that Democrats care more about currying favor with the NEA than they do about ensuring access to quality schools for those children most in need of educational opportunity. Take the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program, for example. This program enables inner-city children to use vouchers to escape the District’s failing schools and attend quality institutions like Sidwell Friends, where – incidentally – the Obama daughters go to school. Sadly, however, what’s good for the presidential goose is not so good for the inner city gander: President Obama and his cohorts in Congress have worked to kill this program since he took office. When it comes to education, the President and Democrats prefer to make the decisions for the children of the hoi polloi than have parents to make the decisions for themselves. Uncle Sam and the teachers’ union have it all under control, thank you very much.

What about religious liberty then? Do liberals support the freedom to choose how you practice your religion in the health care arena? Again, the answer is no. President Obama and his Secretary of Health and Human Services see nothing wrong with limiting religious and economic liberty in the name of mandated free birth control and abortifacients for all.

Which brings us full circle to the one “choice” that is truly sacrosanct to the Left: abortion. Tread on this sacred freedom and you might as well break into the National Archives and light the Declaration of Independence on fire. Suggest that the government might have a legitimate role in safeguarding the God-given liberties of unborn children and you’ll be labeled a hateful misogynist who wants to “dictate to women what they do with their own bodies.” Nevermind the fact that Big Brother feels perfectly justified in telling us how big our drinks can be, what kind of light bulbs we can buy, where we can and can’t smoke a cigarette, etc… Heaven forbid we use the force of law to protect the lives of innocents who can’t make choices for themselves. That would be crossing the line.

malibucj
by Platinum Member on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:24 AM
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People can't pick and choose what's a choice and what's not.

Im a democrat, and if a woman wants to have an abortion, that's her choice. Myself personally would not have one unless it was absolutely necessary. And even then it would still be on my conscience.

But as far as smoking, drinking, consuming sugar and fat, etc.... I believe that is a persons personal choice as well. They are the ones who have to live with the consequences.


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Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:29 AM
There are idiots on both sides. I thought this was common knowledge...
ElitestJen
by on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:32 AM
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Please.  Liberals are crazy control freaks.  They want to control what you eat/drink, how you parent, schools, guns, healthcare, etc.  It's getting ridiculous how up in your business they've gotten.

JavaLadybug2
by on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:42 AM


Quoting Anonymous:

There are idiots on both sides. I thought this was common knowledge...

Tis true!

JavaLadybug2
by on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:42 AM
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Quoting malibucj:

People can't pick and choose what's a choice and what's not.

Im a democrat, and if a woman wants to have an abortion, that's her choice. Myself personally would not have one unless it was absolutely necessary. And even then it would still be on my conscience.

But as far as smoking, drinking, consuming sugar and fat, etc.... I believe that is a persons personal choice as well. They are the ones who have to live with the consequences.


I wish all politicians beleived like this!

 

Think SPRING!

JavaLadybug2
by on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:43 AM
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Quoting ElitestJen:

Please.  Liberals are crazy control freaks.  They want to control what you eat/drink, how you parent, schools, guns, healthcare, etc.  It's getting ridiculous how up in your business they've gotten.

UM.. I am a republican.. and I firmly beleive that both parties have turned to shit!

Not_A_Native
by Ruby Member on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:45 AM
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I am highly opposed to unions, seat belt laws, car seat laws, as well as laws that dictate what a woman does with her body.

It's why I have such a hard time voting.

ElitestJen
by on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:45 AM



Quoting JavaLadybug2:


Quoting ElitestJen:

Please.  Liberals are crazy control freaks.  They want to control what you eat/drink, how you parent, schools, guns, healthcare, etc.  It's getting ridiculous how up in your business they've gotten.

UM.. I am a republican.. and I firmly beleive that both parties have turned to shit!

Ok.  Republicans still aren't trying to control what color socks you're allowed to wear.


Nunyabusiness
by on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:51 AM
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I'm neither pro choice or a democrat so here's a bump I guess. Lol

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