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can you cure autism?

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My dsd is four and has autism. She is starting a new home therapy program. The lady came tonight to go over it with dh and I. She met with Bm last week about it. Anyway, the lady said this program cured her own daughter of autism and that she went from being non verbal to no one believing she once had autism. I don't buy it. Don't get me wrong, I am all for helping dsd but if autism had a cure, why isn't everyone using the program?????
Posted by Anonymous on Feb. 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous on Feb. 27, 2013 at 7:28 PM
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That is 100% incorrect, some of these kids were well above expectation intellectually prior to their regression.
Edit and developmentally


Quoting lancet98:

 Just one little teensy weensy problem.



The kids don't  'develop normally and regress'.    They were missing milestones all along - language milestones, etc.



Skills do indeed disappear, but they were not meeting  major milestones, well before 2, and well before vaccination.



They are not 'developing normally and then stop developing normally'.   That is a fallacy.



Read Catalano, who is an expert on 'late onset autism'.   Also consider reading about CDD.



 



Quoting svolkov:

I think the problem is there is late onset autism that usually happens around two....yhe exact same time of many shots. So a child would be normally developing then regress. The genome idea would be what might make some more susceptible they are thinkng. The folate research hasnt been peer reviewed or published yet. I got access to it from my university for a research paper I am working on for my phd. Its pretty interesting tho




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by Anonymous on Feb. 27, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Autism is way over diagnosed these days. I don't think there is a 4 yr old who cannot be diagnosed if that's what you're looking for. So in a sense- yes it can be cured because alot of kids never had it the first place.

Now for those kids that actually do have autism.  You can't cure it, but you can learn to cope with it and teach your kids how to deal with it when they are alot older since at like at age 10 they may be at a 5 year old mind capacity.

svolkov
by Emerald Member on Feb. 27, 2013 at 7:57 PM
. No that is the difference between reg autism and late onset. Those who develop late onset meet normal milestones up until the point of regression(usually before age 3). That is the only major difference and why it has a different name. My undergrad is spec ed and my grad degree is applied behavior analysis with autism specialist cert ;) thanks tho


Quoting lancet98:

 Just one little teensy weensy problem.


The kids don't  'develop normally and regress'.    They were missing milestones all along - language milestones, etc.


Skills do indeed disappear, but they were not meeting  major milestones, well before 2, and well before vaccination.


They are not 'developing normally and then stop developing normally'.   That is a fallacy.


Read Catalano, who is an expert on 'late onset autism'.   Also consider reading about CDD.


 


Quoting svolkov:

I think the problem is there is late onset autism that usually happens around two....yhe exact same time of many shots. So a child would be normally developing then regress. The genome idea would be what might make some more susceptible they are thinkng. The folate research hasnt been peer reviewed or published yet. I got access to it from my university for a research paper I am working on for my phd. Its pretty interesting tho



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by Emerald Member on Feb. 27, 2013 at 8:00 PM
The biggest thing wrong with this statement is that many children with ASD are at or above regular intelligence. Its sensory and social issues that are tje most noticeable


Quoting Anonymous:

Autism is way over diagnosed these days. I don't think there is a 4 yr old who cannot be diagnosed if that's what you're looking for. So in a sense- yes it can be cured because alot of kids never had it the first place.

Now for those kids that actually do have autism.  You can't cure it, but you can learn to cope with it and teach your kids how to deal with it when they are alot older since at like at age 10 they may be at a 5 year old mind capacity.


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by Silver Member on Feb. 27, 2013 at 8:09 PM
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Where do you get the idea that a 10-year-old with autism has the mental capacity of a 5-year-old?? There a wide range of intellectual levels on the autism spectrum; some many have diminished mental capaciity, while others are at genius level. What makes it hard to estimate their intellectual level is their impaired communication skills; one could be a non-verbal genius, while another could be verbal but with a low-IQ. 


Quoting Anonymous:

Autism is way over diagnosed these days. I don't think there is a 4 yr old who cannot be diagnosed if that's what you're looking for. So in a sense- yes it can be cured because alot of kids never had it the first place.

Now for those kids that actually do have autism.  You can't cure it, but you can learn to cope with it and teach your kids how to deal with it when they are alot older since at like at age 10 they may be at a 5 year old mind capacity.



Anonymous
by Anonymous on Feb. 27, 2013 at 8:11 PM
Mom of an ASD kid here. I am not a doctor, and my OPINION is based on observation and information from other ASD parents. You cannot cure autism. IF the cause is external, like from vaccine injury, heavy metal toxicity, GAPS, or allergy, and not just the way the brain is made, you CAN present as "normal," with none of the typical characteristics of autism. But the kid will still have autism, as far as current research says. If your child is what some consider "profoundly" autistic and has a low iq, there isn't a whole lot you can do. There are therapies you can try. We did GAPS diet and have a therapy plan written with the aid of a doctor and two therapists. My child sees two therapists and an intern, a doctor, a social worker (who helps us get stuff covered by our insurance and recommends care professionals), and a babysitter who is a child development major and gives the kid some extra support in his therapy while she gives me a few hours a week to blow off steam and clean my house in peace. We started krill oil a while back on the recommendation of a parent in one of my autism groups online. I think it is working because we are now seeing the results from the GAPS diet that others have reported. I absolutely believe my child was made autistic by vaccinations and I have faith that there is everything he needs to heal enough to feel, learn, function, and present as normal, somewhere in this world. I will find it or die trying. But I will never believe someone who says his or her therapy method will cure my kid. That's bull. The therapy doesn't change a brain or gut health. It trains a brain and body.

This is only my personal opinion formed from my personal experience so don't get mad if it differs from yours or isn't what you want to hear. There will emerge more and more charlatans who will claim to cure autism, and they will leave with pockets made fat with other people's money.
Anonymous
by Anonymous on Feb. 27, 2013 at 8:14 PM
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Quoting SuDoNim:


This because my son is actually very smart and even advanced in many ways. He is also very funny and loving, has a big smile on his face most of the time, and likes to hug his family and friends. I hope that doesn't blow someone's mind too hard.
SuDoNim
by Silver Member on Feb. 27, 2013 at 8:23 PM

OP: I'm not convinced there is any sort of "cure" for autism. We tried different biomedical treatments for several years with ds1, but they didn't seem to make much difference. I am a huge advocate of ABA therapy, as it is an evidence-based practice, and I have seen how well it helped my son; he went from virtually non-verbal at age 3, to now at age 8, more Aspergers than Autistic. He still has some developmental delays, but medication has helped greatly with his sensory issues. 

The thing you have to keep in mind is that autism is characterised by developmental delays; children with autism do make strides and progress, but at a different pace than typically-developing children.    


Quoting Anonymous:

My dsd is four and has autism. She is starting a new home therapy program. The lady came tonight to go over it with dh and I. She met with Bm last week about it. Anyway, the lady said this program cured her own daughter of autism and that she went from being non verbal to no one believing she once had autism. I don't buy it. Don't get me wrong, I am all for helping dsd but if autism had a cure, why isn't everyone using the program?????



MistyMoo
by Ruby Member on Feb. 27, 2013 at 8:26 PM
I did ABA, we already used all of the methods and tricks that the therapist recommended and taught us.. It was slightly useless to us, so it makes me leery about starting IBI... We're giving the ABA another shot though, so hopefully it's actually helpful this time... I haven't found anything that has 'cured' my son. I've tried lots and I've just learned to accept him with all of his quirks and whatnot. He's supposedly severely autistic, but I'm very doubtful that he's that severe.

Quoting kris0921:

I do ABA and there has been cases where it has cured it. Is it a fix for everyone that has it no, but it does work for the kids.
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kris0921
by Silver Member on Feb. 27, 2013 at 8:57 PM
Its a very small percentage, and it takes years to happen if it even will. Every child I have worked with has showed great improvement from where they were when they started. Its all about the center and staff. Also I hope you have better luck with it this time around. It cab be an amazing program if done properly.


Quoting MistyMoo:

I did ABA, we already used all of the methods and tricks that the therapist recommended and taught us.. It was slightly useless to us, so it makes me leery about starting IBI... We're giving the ABA another shot though, so hopefully it's actually helpful this time... I haven't found anything that has 'cured' my son. I've tried lots and I've just learned to accept him with all of his quirks and whatnot. He's supposedly severely autistic, but I'm very doubtful that he's that severe.



Quoting kris0921:

I do ABA and there has been cases where it has cured it. Is it a fix for everyone that has it no, but it does work for the kids.

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