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work places testing for nicotine

Posted by Anonymous   + Show Post

I'm not gonna lie, i smoke, and have for 10 years (almost). well, my company is now testing for nicotine and if you fail (regardless the source) they are charging a surcharge. however, there IS a catch. they are ONLY requiring those who have medical coverage under this company. they are also requiring a biometric screening for covered employees, those who (also) do not submit are being charged a surcharge.

now here is my problem........they are not requiring ALL employees to submit to this testing like they would a drug test. only those who have HEALTH.

would that not be considered discrimination?

and for employees who don't have coverage else where are REQUIRED to take the company's health insurance. is that even legal? that's the ONLY reason i'm still on it, cause i have no other options and they require us to have it-trust me, i'm looking for an affordable private insurance.

and my next question, how can they hold nicotine against people when it's still legal? and it doesn't matter the source of nicotine. ecigs, patches, etc are all "failed test". i get if they want a "smoke free work place" ok so then ban smoking from company property.

now before anyone goes on to say and bash for me to just quit, i'm working on that part, that's not the point. a nicotine addiction is worse than crack......clinically proven

Posted by Anonymous on Feb. 27, 2013 at 4:13 PM
Replies (51-60):
Anonymous
by Anonymous 4 on Feb. 28, 2013 at 11:49 PM


You wouldn't have a leg to stand on.  They can require that and you have two options;  get the shot or quit.  They have done it in the past with no repercussions.  

I think when you are well compensated you don't care about minor things like that so much.  The lowest paid employees, a few fresh-outs, make $85 an hour.


BTW:  "Pressing charges" assumes a criminal offense as defined by the penal code.  There is no crime in saying it's a requirement of your job to get a vaccine.  Almost all of us are required to travel internationally which also requires vaccines.  If you had a problem with it you'd be required to state that when you were hired.

Quoting Anonymous:

I wont comply. Ill claim its against my religion. Then if I'm penalized....I'll press charges


Quoting Anonymous:

At my company they are requiring flu shots too.



Anonymous
by Anonymous 11 on Feb. 28, 2013 at 11:50 PM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 12 on Feb. 28, 2013 at 11:52 PM
Yeap I'm pretty sure the children's hospital in bham, al is like that.. Which I can understand not wanting folks to smoke on the job but personal time is their business.

Quoting Sasha-:

More companies are doing this,  even not offering a job if you smoke.  There is a hospital in Florida I think that if you smoke they will fire you.

Anonymous
by Anonymous - Original Poster on Feb. 28, 2013 at 11:52 PM
So most are suggesting that the "higher risk ppl r getting the charge" so y not charge those whose medical background is prone to cancer n disease? You know those who have a high risk blood line. Man I'm fucked. Cancer, diabetes, heart disease runs all in my family
Hell my mom had skin cancer when I was little. Has a noncancerous tumor. Gpa just passed of pancreas cancer. And I'm just got biopsy for cervical and it came up ad mild displacia....so I guess the hike in medical costs is all my bloodline
Anonymous
by Anonymous 13 on Feb. 28, 2013 at 11:52 PM
A few hospitals in my area are doing this. You would think the insurance companies would be interested in screening for other more harmful and illegal drugs too.
Liz_Rocket
by on Feb. 28, 2013 at 11:53 PM
Totally legal. Thank Obamacare for that one.
wkukid
by Beach Bum on Feb. 28, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Obesity is legal and some companies punish that too. 

Anonymous
by Anonymous - Original Poster on Feb. 28, 2013 at 11:55 PM
When I got hired my medical choices were MY choices and charges don't necessarily mean criminal. It could mean trying to force ppl against their constitutional rights


Quoting Anonymous:


You wouldn't have a leg to stand on.  They can require that and you have two options;  get the shot or quit.  They have done it in the past with no repercussions.  

I think when you are well compensated you don't care about minor things like that so much.  The lowest paid employees, a few fresh-outs, make $85 an hour.


BTW:  "Pressing charges" assumes a criminal offense as defined by the penal code.  There is no crime in saying it's a requirement of your job to get a vaccine.  Almost all of us are required to travel internationally which also requires vaccines.  If you had a problem with it you'd be required to state that when you were hired.

Quoting Anonymous:

I wont comply. Ill claim its against my religion. Then if I'm penalized....I'll press charges





Quoting Anonymous:

At my company they are requiring flu shots too.





Anonymous
by Anonymous 14 on Mar. 1, 2013 at 12:03 AM

 All the wonderful things being changed in the realm of insurance thanks to the new laws. Nicotine most often comes from smoking, smoking causes health problems, health problems cause you to go to the Dr, major health problems could cause the health insurance premiums for the company to go up. They are trying to keep the money coming out of their pocket down, if you're healthy they don't have to pay as much.

DH's company does biometric screening along with the health insurance. It's sort of irritating, but it is good in the respect you are aware of your health. It checks cholesterol and other things I can't think of right now...lol.

If you're going to deal with your companies insurance, you're going to have to deal with this. Pretty soon we're all going to have to have insurance so you'll either have to use the company one or buy your own.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 4 on Mar. 1, 2013 at 12:05 AM


In a "right to work" state, they can fire you for any reason or no reason.  As a hiring manager, if you refused to do what I needed as part of your job, I would fire you and never tell you why.  By law I don't have to.

If international travel is part of your job description, any idiot would know that includes any required visa and immunizations to be allowed entrance to the foreign country.  You sign on your application that there would be immunizations and health screens required (plus random drug testing and a requirement for a TS/SBI).

There is no "constitutional right" that requires all job descriptions to be to your liking.  You never would be forced to get a vaccination against your will.  You could refuse it, and you would just have to find a more suitable employment opportunity.

Quoting Anonymous:

When I got hired my medical choices were MY choices and charges don't necessarily mean criminal. It could mean trying to force ppl against their constitutional rights


Quoting Anonymous:


You wouldn't have a leg to stand on.  They can require that and you have two options;  get the shot or quit.  They have done it in the past with no repercussions.  

I think when you are well compensated you don't care about minor things like that so much.  The lowest paid employees, a few fresh-outs, make $85 an hour.


BTW:  "Pressing charges" assumes a criminal offense as defined by the penal code.  There is no crime in saying it's a requirement of your job to get a vaccine.  Almost all of us are required to travel internationally which also requires vaccines.  If you had a problem with it you'd be required to state that when you were hired.

Quoting Anonymous:

I wont comply. Ill claim its against my religion. Then if I'm penalized....I'll press charges





Quoting Anonymous:

At my company they are requiring flu shots too.






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